Who do you vote for if it's McCain Vs. Hillary
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Who do you vote for if it's McCain Vs. Hillary
So a series of three polls, starting with this. If Hillary wins the democratic primary who do you vote for?
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'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan
Several months ago I would have held my nose, not looked in the mirror for a few days afterwards, and voted for Hillary.
After her constant parade of bullshit, personal attacks, and pandering, I wouldn't vote for her even if Zombie Hitler was running as a Republican.
For me, it'd either be third party or just leave that part of the ballot blank.
After her constant parade of bullshit, personal attacks, and pandering, I wouldn't vote for her even if Zombie Hitler was running as a Republican.
For me, it'd either be third party or just leave that part of the ballot blank.
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I would vote for Hillary, because at the very least, she'd be more likely to aim politics in a generally Democratic direction. You might also get at least some issues done, assuming she gets a friendly congress.*
*A "friendly congress" should really be emphasized more in the public discussion about the presidential race. A president really can't do jack shit with a hostile opposition controlling Congress except certain initiatives and some military actions - it's unlikely, for example, that Bush would have been able to get the Iraq War going if his party didn't have firm control over Congress after 2002, and control over the House before that.
*A "friendly congress" should really be emphasized more in the public discussion about the presidential race. A president really can't do jack shit with a hostile opposition controlling Congress except certain initiatives and some military actions - it's unlikely, for example, that Bush would have been able to get the Iraq War going if his party didn't have firm control over Congress after 2002, and control over the House before that.
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McCain. Because then there's a chance we'll have someone worthwhile in 2012.
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ghetto edit: Someone worthwhile in 2012, as opposed to 4 more years of Shrillery.
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McCain. I voted for him in 2000 against Bush in their primary and then I voted Democrat after that.
This time I would be hesitant as all hell, but I would do it in the absolute hope that he gets into office and says "Ha Ha! Fuck you guys! I'm back!" In the hopes that he only sold himself to get into office because he knows he doesn't have the time to wait another 4-8 years.
This time I would be hesitant as all hell, but I would do it in the absolute hope that he gets into office and says "Ha Ha! Fuck you guys! I'm back!" In the hopes that he only sold himself to get into office because he knows he doesn't have the time to wait another 4-8 years.

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I'd either vote third party or write in a vote for Obama.
Sadly, it won't mean diddly shit as I live in Texas and McCain is going to get the Texas electoral college votes...
Sadly, it won't mean diddly shit as I live in Texas and McCain is going to get the Texas electoral college votes...
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I stay home. 4 years of Hillary will usher in a Republican backlash in 2012.
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In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
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Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
McCain. That way all the current simmering problems (financial meltdown, crashing economy, peak oil, etc.) will become big crisis problems and bite the Republicans in the ass. Hopefully the people will become so fed up & disgusted that the GOP is ruined for a good long time.
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That's certaintly easy for you to say, you don't have to live here during all that.J wrote:McCain. That way all the current simmering problems (financial meltdown, crashing economy, peak oil, etc.) will become big crisis problems and bite the Republicans in the ass. Hopefully the people will become so fed up & disgusted that the GOP is ruined for a good long time.

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Oh come on, you know that's not how American politics works. Bad things happening don't turn people against the government anymore. It's all about "character." Do you have any idea how easy it would be for a decently charismatic Republican president to turn our discontent outwards, at foreign enemies or domestic "traitors?"J wrote:McCain. That way all the current simmering problems (financial meltdown, crashing economy, peak oil, etc.) will become big crisis problems and bite the Republicans in the ass. Hopefully the people will become so fed up & disgusted that the GOP is ruined for a good long time.
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Like Canuckistan isn't the 51st state.That NOS Guy wrote:That's certaintly easy for you to say, you don't have to live here during all that.J wrote:McCain. That way all the current simmering problems (financial meltdown, crashing economy, peak oil, etc.) will become big crisis problems and bite the Republicans in the ass. Hopefully the people will become so fed up & disgusted that the GOP is ruined for a good long time.

The only way Clinton would get my vote is (a) if Obama meets with an accident and there's no foul play and (b) I am just lazy and tired enough on election day to check the box for a straight Democratic ballot. I'm not about to cast a vote to ratify the theft of the nomination, which is the only other way Clinton can win.
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Strider wrote:Its saying something truly scary when a board this leftist has an election between a Republican and a Democrat as this close a thing.
Well, you pretty much nailed it when you said "they're both Republicans". Hillary's cowboy swaggering about spanking Iran if they get too uppity, and dismissing actual economists in favor of her gut-wisdom gas tax holiday crap makes her little more than George W Bush with a bra.
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
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Hillary, because the Republicans are so bad, and the Democrats so ineffectual that I wouldn't vote for a Republican no matter the opponent. Even if it was "Zombie Hitler" as a Democrat, he wouldn't be able to do as much damage as a Republican would. Keeping Republicans out of office as much as I can is my main political goal now.
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I can't say right now because a vote for McCain is a vote for his VP to take over in 2 or 3 years. Now most likely for whoever he picks the answer will end up being Hillary because, as others have said, the Republicans ARE that bad.

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