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Democrats start to grow a spine

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So two things give me a small modicum of hope for the future:

First off I get Rep Wexler's e-mails as I subscribed to his list:
Congressman Wexler wrote: Dear Gregory,

Last night, I appeared on MSNBC's Verdict with Dan Abrams to discuss Karl Rove's outrageous refusal to appear before Congress regarding serious allegations that he used the US Justice Department to take down a prominent Democratic politician. It is alleged that Mr. Rove personally instigated the prosecution of former Alabama Governor Don Siegleman. The case has been criticized by legal experts, and 52 former state attorney generals - both Republicans and Democrats - have criticized the case and called for an investigation. (You may view the clip here.)

If Rove refuses to testify voluntarily and ignores the subpoenas that will certainly be issued, he should be held in Inherent Contempt of the House of Representatives.

No American is above the law. None of us should be able to ignore Congress without consequence. If Mr. Rove ignores a subpoena from the Judiciary Committee, then the House of Representatives should pass an Inherent Contempt citation and exercise our right to send the House Sergeant-of-Arms to gather Mr. Rove and bring him before Congress to testify.

I do not advocate this option lightly, but the reality is that Congress has few options left against an Administration that totally refuses to submit to any type of reasonable Congressional oversight. Congress has both the right and obligation to investigate these matters. Never before has an Executive so upset the checks and balances inherent in our Constitution. If we back off or delay, we effectively forfeit the power of Congress to investigate the Executive branch.

Rove is not the first White House official to ignore Congress. We have seen a pattern of refusals based on laughable claims of executive privilege. First, White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten and former White House Counsel Harriet Miers ignored subpoenas on the investigation into the firing of US Attorney Generals for partisan political motives.

Their refusal to testify was unprecedented: never before have executive officials totally refused to even show up before Congress. Bolten and Miers are the highest officials ever held in contempt of Congress. Unfortunately, Attorney General Mukasey - in a dereliction of duty - has refused to enforce the contempt decree and now Congress is suing them in District Court to demand compliance. Then, the Vice President's Chief of Staff, David Addington, refused to testify on the investigation into the Bush Administration's ordering of torture. Now, Rove continues this executive arrogance by also refusing to testify.

Enough is enough. We have a Constitutional obligation to provide accountability to a White House that is trying usurp the constitutional powers of Congress.

These are the very reasons why I have been pushing for impeachment hearings for Vice President Cheney. The Bush Administration has been running roughshod over the Constitution for eight long years. We should not allow the promise of a positive election be used as an excuse to ignore our duty to investigate crimes that weaken the very fabric of our Democracy.

I thank you again for your commitment to the causes that we hold so dear.

With warm regards,

Congressman Robert Wexler
So awesome Wexler pushing for an actual vote on Inherent Contempt. Honestly they should have tried this for Meirs and Bolton but right now there is momentum behind the Democrats and false prosecution is a more clear cut charge than political tampering. Simply put the case against Rove is a lot easier to make. Also if they can make Inherent Stick for Rove then the rest of Bush's crew is gonna have to show up and start spouting the 5th elft and right to their furher detriment.

After that comes joyous moment number 2 courtesy of Rep. Conyers comes through:
Conyers on Rove: "Someone's Got to Kick His Ass"
By Paul Kiel - May 15, 2008, 2:44PM

House Judiciary Committee Chair John Conyers (D-MI) forgot to keep his voice down when there are reporters present:

Just off the House floor today, the Crypt overheard House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers tell two other people: "We're closing in on Rove. Someone's got to kick his ass."

Asked a few minutes later for a more official explanation, Conyers told us that Rove has a week to appear before his committee. If he doesn't, said Conyers, "We'll do what any self-respecting committee would do. We'd hold him in contempt. Either that or go and have him arrested."

The chairman seems to have been having fire for breakfast lately, pursuing the testimony -- with the threat of a subpoena -- of a number of former administration figures, including Dick Cheney's consigliere David Addington. And of course he's also been pursuing Rove to testify about the prosecution of ex-Gov. Don Siegelman (D-AL). Yesterday, in somewhat more diplomatic language, Conyers refused Rove's offer to testify in writing.
Fuck yeah. Wexler and Conyers have been the highlights of the 110th. A few months ago I might even have included Hoyer for manuevering very well to throw Protect ATT back at the Senate but he has been waffling lately. Hopefully if these guys can get him to grow a spine we can avoid legitimizing warrantless domestic spying.
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Lets see if Rove and those other Bush dickweeds draw this out long enough W might not still be in office when a pardon might come in handy.

Actually, can the President pardon someone who has been found "In Contempt of Congress"? It seems like that would be pissing on some of the separation of powers a bit.
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yeah, Wexler is damn cool to have in congress, and his people type well written Emails. I think I posted a bit of testimony from one of his iquires here weeks ago.
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And to think, he represents my district! And we've entertained him in my house!

I have to start getting to know this man better...
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Tsyroc wrote:Lets see if Rove and those other Bush dickweeds draw this out long enough W might not still be in office when a pardon might come in handy.

Actually, can the President pardon someone who has been found "In Contempt of Congress"? It seems like that would be pissing on some of the separation of powers a bit.
I know Jefferson has a whole bunch f quotes about how a President pardoning members of his staff for work they did on his staff should be grounds for impeachment. Outside of that there really is no limit I am aware of to the President's power to pardon.
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