Italy to build new nuclear power plants

[Mayabird]

Well, maybe. Hopefully.

Italy to reverse policy and build nuclear power stations: minister

by Staff Writers
Rome (AFP) May 22, 2008
The Italian government said Thursday it would begin building nuclear power stations, reversing a 20-year ban in an initiative likely to spark strong resistance and take a long time to come to fruition.

"During the term of this parliament, we will lay the first stone for the construction in our country of a group of new-generation nuclear power stations," Economic Development Minister Claudio Scajola told the Italian employers' federation Confindustria.

"We can no longer avoid an action plan for a return to nuclear power," he said, recalling a campaign pledge by Italy's newly named right-wing prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, to take such a step.

"Only nuclear power stations can produce energy on a large scale, in a secure way at competitive costs and one that respects the environment."

A decision to abandon nuclear power was taken in a 1987 referendum following the nuclear disaster in Chernobyl, Ukraine in 1986. The country's four nuclear plants operating at the time were shut down.

But Confindustria head Emma Marcegaglia said the time has now come "to invest in nuclear energy" as the country has become too dependent on foreign sources of oil and gas.

Following the Confindustria meeting, Fulvio Conti, head of Italy's principal power group Enel, said his company was "technically ready" to take part in the initiative, the Ansa news agency reported.

"It's a good start on the part of the government, which confirms the need to diversify (energy) sources and to invest in infrastructure," he said. The Italian government controls a 30 percent stake in Enel.

Conti last month said it would likely take "seven to 10 years for a new nuclear generator to come online."

Italy has suffered occasional power shortages in recent years, due in part to problems with its electricity distribution network.

In September 2003, the entire country was hit by a power cut because of problems with the supply of electricity bought from Switzerland.

As with other countries in Europe, Italy buys power at peak periods from neighbours, including France where most electricity is nuclear generated.

In the winter of 2006 the government had to impose economy measures and tapped into its strategic reserves in the face of an interruption in Russian gas supplies.

Italy depends on foreign sources for 87 percent of its energy needs. Oil accounts for 43 percent and gas 36 percent of its energy use.

Russia and Algeria along account for 67 percent of Italy's gas needs. Sixty percent of the country's electricity output is powered by gas, according to Enel.

A return to the nuclear option promises to be long and complicated, not least because of expected political and activist opposition.

"The creation of a body to manage nuclear power, the authorisation to build a facility and the construction of the first plant means that the first station would have trouble becoming operational before 2020," Edison, another Italian energy group, said recently.

The government's announcement Thursday sparked criticism from groups such as Legambiente, the country's leading environmental defence association, which pledged to mount "very determined" opposition and questioned where the government would get the money to finance its nuclear ambitions.

"Mr. Scajola speaks of a new generation reactor, suggesting that it would be the fourth generation, which is still at an embryonic stage," said Legambiante president Vittorio Cogliati Dezza.

"Those reactors, if all goes well, would be ready 20 to 25 years from now."

Ermete Realacci, environmental spokesman for the leftist Democrat Party: "To return to nuclear power in Italy in five years time (the life of the current parliament) is a political statement."

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[Kanastrous]

I've had Italian bikes, and Italian cars.

I'm frankly terrified.

[Patrick Degan]

Wonder how long this project will last before the next pasta strike brings down the present Berlusconi government?

[Glocksman]

I've had Italian bikes, and Italian cars.

I'm frankly terrified.

Heh...

When I worked at a local bowling alley as a short order cook, we had an Italian made slushiee machine that kept breaking down.

Mike (the owner) said that he bought the thing because it was made in Europe instead of being a 'Taiwanese piece of junk'.
Before he finally gave up on it, he admitted it had been the worst buying decision he'd ever made.

That said, what's your opinion of Kymco vs Piaggio made scooters?

[Kanastrous]

That said, what's your opinion of Kymco vs Piaggio made scooters?

Alas I can't say anything educated about them, at all. My Italian bike knowledge is limited to Ducati and Aprilia, and it's still pretty limited, at that.

[Kanastrous]

ghetto edit -

considering that a slushiee machine incorporates stuff like pumps and piping and temperature controls and a sort of containment vessel, your representative sample of Italian slushiee machine workmanship is actually more disturbing than my representative sample of their automotive workmanship.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Who wants to place bets that the project will get delayed, as with many other Italian projects?

[Havok]

I've had Italian bikes, and Italian cars.

I'm frankly terrified.

Yeah, my people should just stick to making yummy food and Catholics.

[Jade Falcon]

Considering how often Italy changes their government this probably won't last.

[Warsie]

Aren't Italian Scooters (see the Vespa) pretty good in quality?

Patrick Degan and Kanastrous's posts were good

[Glocksman]

I'm in the middle of scooter research (due to gas prices) and so far the consensus is that the Japanese scooters are the way to go because of quality and parts availability.

I've seen people bitch about Piaggio parts availability and quality of assembly (mainly electrical issues WRT specific models).
Right now my personal preference leans to buying either a Suzuki burgman 400 or a Yamaha Majesty 400.

[Kanastrous]

I'm curious, is there a particular appeal to scooters, as opposed to a proper motorcycle?

[Glocksman]

I'm curious, is there a particular appeal to scooters, as opposed to a proper motorcycle?

Inexperience.
Scooters don't require shifting gears.

[Kanastrous]

Well...it's not difficult to learn. Avoiding gear-shifting might not be a great reason, by itself, to sacrifice the advantages of most bikes over most scooters.

[Glocksman]

True.
I've thought about getting a Kawasaki KLR650 instead of a 'maxi scooter' and teaching myself how to ride it after purchase.
Though whatever I wind up buying I plan on taking the ABATE course as I'll let me upgrade the learner's permit without testing and will give me a break on insurance.