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...and tells a school assembly all about it!


Parents outraged after cop uses Windsor High School students' MySpace pages for Internet safety assembly

BY HALLIE WOODS • HallieWoods@coloradoan.com • August 20, 2008


Students and parents at Windsor High School are outraged after a Wyoming police officer doing an Internet safety presentation at the school scrutinized individual students’ MySpace pages, calling the students “slutty” and saying photos on their sites invited sexual predators.

The officer, John F. Gay III of the Cheyenne Police Department, picked out six or seven Windsor High School students’ MySpace page and began to criticize photos, comments and other content until one student left the room crying

He told the entire student body that he had shared her info with a sexual predator in prison,” said Ty Nordic, whose daughter Shaylah Nordic’s MySpace page was put on display.

Nordic said Gay then told the student body that the predator said he would masturbate to her picture.

Shaylah Nordic then left the room as Gay pulled up her phone number and called her on stage to demonstrate how easy it was to get a hold of contact information via the Internet.

Well, the officer is right: You have one sexual predator who looks at an underage kid and thinks "Hey, I know someone in jail who would love to beat off to this!" you have effectively doubled the number of child molesters. Of course it's all the kid's fault.
“He told about a story about a girl in another state who was tracked through MySpace who was raped and shot and then said Shaylah’s page is inviting people to do the exact same things to her,” Nordic said.
She should be worried. What, with a pedophile pig giving out her name and pictures to an imprisoned sexual predator.
Windsor High School Principal Rick Porter said today that he was aware of what the speaker was going to talk about and that he would likely use a couple My Space pages of Windsor High School students as an example.
Shouldn't a principal who allows a creep who stalks teenage girls to use his beat-off material to embarass her at school be an ex-principal?
Porter said he had no idea that Gay was going to make his presentation in the manner he did or use the language he is accused of using.

“I was very disappointed,” Porter said. “I never heard him say things like that before.”
Disappointed? Disappointment is what you feel when your soda went flat before you had a chance to drink it, fucktard!
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Gay could not be reached for comment.
Of course not: He's too busy providing convicts with jackoff material!
April Rigg, a Windsor High senior, said her MySpace page was also put on display, though she was not at the assembly.
A serial sex predator with a badge!
“Me and my best friend are in a lot of those pictures. We have our arms around each other and he was saying that I was touching her,” Rigg said other students told her. “That just sucks because I don’t want people to get the wrong impression of me.”
I guess Officer Gay just couldn't help himself.
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Is there any actual proof he gave her personal info to someone else? Is there any proof at all that that wasn't a abnormally stupid lie to get the teens to take this seriously?

Because the way I read it, I don't think he actually did.

Mind you, that was still highly inappropriate.
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As distasteful as this assclown's actions are, there's something to be said for not putting up personal images and private information on very public internet sites.
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Temjin wrote:Is there any actual proof he gave her personal info to someone else? Is there any proof at all that that wasn't a abnormally stupid lie to get the teens to take this seriously?

Because the way I read it, I don't think he actually did.

Mind you, that was still highly inappropriate.
Either way he's a worthless piece of shit. Telling a kid in front of the entire school that a sexual predator now has her information (pictures, etc) and that he jerks off to it (thanks to this asshole) is about as repulsive as it gets. It's like he drew his gun and fired it at the student, scaring the shit out of her, only to say "Oh it was just blanks, see?"
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Elfdart wrote:Either way he's a worthless piece of shit. Telling a kid in front of the entire school that a sexual predator now has her information (pictures, etc) and that he jerks off to it (thanks to this asshole) is about as repulsive as it gets. It's like he drew his gun and fired it at the student, scaring the shit out of her, only to say "Oh it was just blanks, see?"
Oh, I agree completely. I just don't think he actually told a prisoner her info.
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Temjin wrote: Oh, I agree completely. I just don't think he actually told a prisoner her info.
It's not as if it's completely unbelievable considering some of the shit fuckhead cops will do.
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I saw this over at Feministing:
Sarah Silverman on law enforcement:

Policeman: "Ms. Do you know why I'm writing you this ticket?"

Sarah Silverman: "Because you had a C average in high-school?"
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As much as this cop crossed the line, I can't really feel very sorry for these kids either. There are way to many kids out there that are an unholy level of stupid when it comes to stuff like MySpace or Facebook. If they put embarrassing content up, it was their bad decision to do so. A huge shock like that is about the only way a good many of them are going to realize how exposed their behavior makes them. Or how much damage some of what is put up can do.

The cop clear crossed the line by publicly humiliating these students and he should be disciplined for it. But I can understand why he did it.
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Stormbringer wrote:As much as this cop crossed the line, I can't really feel very sorry for these kids either. There are way to many kids out there that are an unholy level of stupid when it comes to stuff like MySpace or Facebook. If they put embarrassing content up, it was their bad decision to do so. A huge shock like that is about the only way a good many of them are going to realize how exposed their behavior makes them. Or how much damage some of what is put up can do.

The cop clear crossed the line by publicly humiliating these students and he should be disciplined for it. But I can understand why he did it.
yeah, but there are much better ways to do this. Like just showing them how easy it is to get the information from a strangers point of view, versus giving the information to convicts and pedophiles to have and jack off to. The bit where you look up a "private" phone number and call it is usually pretty effective.
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Elfdart wrote:I saw this over at Feministing:
Sarah Silverman on law enforcement:

Policeman: "Ms. Do you know why I'm writing you this ticket?"

Sarah Silverman: "Because you had a C average in high-school?"
Policeman: "No, because you are so stupid that you actually flunked out of elementary school and are unable to read basic signs such as 35mph. Here's your $200.00 ticket, and have a very nice day."

On Topic - Nothing can be said for this officers actions. They are out of line, and completely unnecessary. Sure, he probably thinks he was scaring them safe, but in reality all he did was damage the image of police to an entire student body.
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Most people's myspace's these days are set to private and you can't see the picture unless you are their friends.

YOU CAN'T see someone's facebook unless you are his or her friend.

Federal agencies and government organizations are able to get through this privacy setting due to the patriot act I believe.

I don't know why you guys are talking down about facebook especially when you can't see someone's profile unless they friend you. Tells me that you don't own a facebook.
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ArmorPierce wrote:Most people's myspace's these days are set to private and you can't see the picture unless you are their friends.

YOU CAN'T see someone's facebook unless you are his or her friend.

Federal agencies and government organizations are able to get through this privacy setting due to the patriot act I believe.

I don't know why you guys are talking down about facebook especially when you can't see someone's profile unless they friend you. Tells me that you don't own a facebook.
What makes you think the average teenager is going to be smart enough to set their sites to private or in any way be concerned about this kind of thing? It doesn't change the point that it's retarded to put up photos of yourself you don't want circulating on the internet.
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ArmorPierce wrote:Most people's myspace's these days are set to private and you can't see the picture unless you are their friends.

YOU CAN'T see someone's facebook unless you are his or her friend.

Federal agencies and government organizations are able to get through this privacy setting due to the patriot act I believe.

I don't know why you guys are talking down about facebook especially when you can't see someone's profile unless they friend you. Tells me that you don't own a facebook.
I don't know of any use of the patriot act in that manner by our detectives, they don't need to. They set up fake myspace accounts and just start adding people as friends, it is amazing how many people will add total strangers to their myspace. Guys usually go for the "hot chick in bikini pics" myspace page add, which they use to great success. Also many, many people do not have their accounts set to private. It is also crazy how many people will talk about crimes they commit on myspace and even post photos of themselves with contraband and stolen property.
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Death from the Sea wrote:
ArmorPierce wrote:Most people's myspace's these days are set to private and you can't see the picture unless you are their friends.

YOU CAN'T see someone's facebook unless you are his or her friend.

Federal agencies and government organizations are able to get through this privacy setting due to the patriot act I believe.

I don't know why you guys are talking down about facebook especially when you can't see someone's profile unless they friend you. Tells me that you don't own a facebook.
I don't know of any use of the patriot act in that manner by our detectives, they don't need to. They set up fake myspace accounts and just start adding people as friends, it is amazing how many people will add total strangers to their myspace. Guys usually go for the "hot chick in bikini pics" myspace page add, which they use to great success. Also many, many people do not have their accounts set to private. It is also crazy how many people will talk about crimes they commit on myspace and even post photos of themselves with contraband and stolen property.
I was just about to say this. I do not have a myspace account, but everytime i'm with someone who does and their checking hteir messages or anything else, there are always friends requests from people they have never met. 90% of the time they accept these friend requests because its "cool" to have more friends than the next guy. While not all teenagers are like this, many are.

As a sidenote, has anyone ever had to actually sit through these types of presentations? They are horribly done, and the subject becomes an annoyance, not a serious matter. I doubt that a single person in the room actually listened to what the officer had to say. I can see the motivation behind these type of scare tactics, seeing as how lesser things aren't getting through, but they aren't the answer either.
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ArmorPierce wrote:I don't know why you guys are talking down about facebook especially when you can't see someone's profile unless they friend you. Tells me that you don't own a facebook.
No I don't. Mostly because the drama of idiots on there makes me want to shave 20 IQ points off anyone I learn has one.

Still, I've never assumed that these sites were absolutely wide open. Just because there are privacy features though does not mean that they're used, let alone used intelligently. Even if they exist, they have to be coupled with intelligent behavior or they're largely worthless. What people are criticizing is the lax attitude of so many on these sites with regard to common sense levels of privacy and personal protection.
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ArmorPierce wrote: YOU CAN'T see someone's facebook unless you are his or her friend.
Actually, no. Unless they specifically set their Facebook to private, you can see the Facebook of people in the same network as you. Thus, even though I'm on the friend list of about 40 of the students at my school, I can see the Facebook, complete with picture, bumper stickers, comments, and all their recent activity of hundreds of others.
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ArmorPierce wrote: YOU CAN'T see someone's facebook unless you are his or her friend.
Actually, no. Unless they specifically set their Facebook to private, you can see the Facebook of people in the same network as you. Thus, even though I'm on the friend list of about 40 of the students at my school, I can see the Facebook, complete with picture, bumper stickers, comments, and all their recent activity of hundreds of others.
right I forgot about that. Still it was limited to only people in your school and you need a college e-mail of the college to set up at that school. I don't know how it works with the high school and the bigger networks that they set up more recently.

About the patriot act, I vaguely recall an article that I read (it might have been posted here) where a person's potential employer was looking through his facebook through his privacy settings during his job interview for the government job. The article was talking about how it was being abused I believe.
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ArmorPierce wrote:
About the patriot act, I vaguely recall an article that I read (it might have been posted here) where a person's potential employer was looking through his facebook through his privacy settings during his job interview for the government job. The article was talking about how it was being abused I believe.
Applying for a government job is a huge difference, and depending on what type of job you're applying for they have every right to check you out thoroughly. I can't even believe you're listing that as an example of how the patriot act has taken our rights away when there are plenty of other examples.
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Kamakazie Sith wrote:Applying for a government job is a huge difference, and depending on what type of job you're applying for they have every right to check you out thoroughly. I can't even believe you're listing that as an example of how the patriot act has taken our rights away when there are plenty of other examples.
The thing about the job was that there was no reason to be checking out the person's facebook and it wasn't and it wasn't something that needed to be checked out. There was no reason that the employer needed to go snooping into the guys profile at all and the only reason that they did at all was that they had the power to do so as a state agency. I can't find the article, it seems to have been since taken down but I can find mentions of the article.

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ArmorPierce wrote:
Kamakazie Sith wrote:Applying for a government job is a huge difference, and depending on what type of job you're applying for they have every right to check you out thoroughly. I can't even believe you're listing that as an example of how the patriot act has taken our rights away when there are plenty of other examples.
The thing about the job was that there was no reason to be checking out the person's facebook and it wasn't and it wasn't something that needed to be checked out. There was no reason that the employer needed to go snooping into the guys profile at all and the only reason that they did at all was that they had the power to do so as a state agency. I can't find the article, it seems to have been since taken down but I can find mentions of the article.

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid= ... 9&from=rss
Given that's a slashdot summary of an article to which the link doesn't work, I'm not exactly all worked up.

They provide neither details of what position he was applying for, whom was actually conducting the check (who may not be "state" agencies), or what the alleged facebook content was. With such a grievous lack of details, you're basically asking us to take your word for it. Not saying you're wrong but that article is distinctly un-helpful.

Of course the moral of the story is of course: DON'T POST POST SHIT TO THE INTERNET YOU DON'T WANT SOME ONE, ANYONE, TO SEE!
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ArmorPierce wrote: The thing about the job was that there was no reason to be checking out the person's facebook and it wasn't and it wasn't something that needed to be checked out. There was no reason that the employer needed to go snooping into the guys profile at all and the only reason that they did at all was that they had the power to do so as a state agency. I can't find the article, it seems to have been since taken down but I can find mentions of the article.

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid= ... 9&from=rss
Oh please. If an employer finds a facebook of you doing shit that could potentially embarrass the company, then they have every right to dismiss you as a potential employee. If they require any kind of background check there's nothing immoral or otherwise wrong about doing so except for you bellyaching over it. Is it really that fucking hard to not put stupid shit you don't want anyone else seeing on the internet?
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Lots of Governments do extensive background checks on their employees. They can't possibly hire an unreliable employee for a job.

And people have been fired from their jobs for posting stupid stuff on Facebook. I recall an incident last year where an employee apparently claimed sick leave or something and was found on facebook to have gone for a party instead. He was promptly fired.
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