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Majority think One Party Rule good.. If they're Dems.

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WASHINGTON (CNN) — It was one of John McCain's closing arguments: "We're getting a glimpse of what one-party rule would look like under Obama, Pelosi, and Reid. Apparently it starts with lowering our defenses and raising our taxes," the Republican presidential nominee said repeatedly on the campaign trail in the final weeks leading up to Election Day.

But a new national poll suggests why a majority of voters didn't seem to buy that argument, as Barack Obama beat McCain in the presidential election and the Democrats made major gains in both the House, under Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and the Senate, under Majority Leader Harry Reid.

In the CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey released Tuesday, 59 percent of those questioned said Democratic control of both the executive and legislative branches will be good for the country, compared with 38 percent saying such one-party control will be bad.

"That much good will from the public opens a window of opportunity for the Democrats," said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "But the public expects results, and may not listen to excuses for very long if a Democratic Congress and a Democratic White House can't get their act together in time."

The poll also indicates that the public has a positive view of the Democratic Party, with 62 percent saying they have a favorable opinion and 31 percent an unfavorable opinion of the party. For the Republicans, a majority, 54 percent, said they have an unfavorable view of the GOP while 38 percent hold a positive view.

"The public has a positive view of the Democratic Party while the GOP 'brand' is hurting," Holland said. "Overall views of the Democratic Party have gone from 53 percent favorable in October to 62 percent favorable now; the GOP overall has seen a 5-point drop in its favorable rating."

The 62 percent figure is the "the highest opinion of the Democrats in at least 16 years, since before Bill Clinton got elected," said CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider.

"When has the Republican Party image ever been that bad? Answer: When the Republican Congress impeached President Clinton at the end of 1998," he added.

The poll indicates the public is split regarding the top Democrats in Congress. And that's an improvement.

"Democratic congressional leaders, much maligned this fall, have also seen a boost in their approval rating," Holland said. "Nearly half of those polled now approve of how congressional Democrats are handling their job, up from just a third who felt that way a month ago."

Schneider added, "Same thing happens when you ask them about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. Good-bad, 50-50, among voters who even know who they are."

It's a different story for the GOP, with just 24 percent approving of how Republican leaders are handling their jobs and nearly three in four disapproving.

But that doesn't mean the public wants to see the GOP shut out of government. Seven out of eight want the Democrats to include Republican views in any legislation they pass.

"What about those times, and they will occur, when Barack Obama and the Democratic leaders in Congress disagree," asked Holland. "The public is likely to side with Obama: 59 percent say they are more likely to trust him than the congressional Democrats."

With Senate contests in Alaska, Georgia, and Minnesota still unresolved, the Democrats have increased from 51 to 57 seats in the 100-seat chamber. That includes two independent senators, Joe Lieberman and Bernie Saunders, who caucus with the Democrats.

In the House of Representatives, the Democrats have picked up 20 seats, reaching 255, with six out of 435 races still undecided.

"There's an opening here for a new Democratic majority. But it's just that, an opening," Schneider said. "It all depends on how President Obama does. And whether he can overcome the red-blue divide in the country — something neither of the baby-boomer presidents, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, could do."

The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll was conducted Thursday through Sunday, with 1,246 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey's sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points.
So after all the fearmongering, red-scaring, and racism, nearly 60% of the population like the idea of Dems dominating politics.

Another firm example of why Obama should go big.
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I think we're seeing more than a 'perfect storm' for this election, I think we're seeing a shift in social priorities and the beginning of a refutation of Republican style extremism. A lot will ride on how the Dems use their power now that they have it, but Obama seems to be a smart and astute observer of human nature and understands power --he's as articulate taking in information as he is giving it out-- and I see, maybe not a "leftward shift" to US politics, but definitely a step back from the far-right brink that our country has mostly been on.
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Well, the Republicans dominated the government for 6 years and that screwed us over- apparently the majority of Americans are smart or desperate enough to drop it in the laps of the Democrats. I hope they manage to fix things up helping the country and utterly crushing the Republicans.

As coyote said there has been a change in the political wind. Newsweek (although I consider that magazine little more than gossip in quality) mentioned that the newer generation reject the idea that government "is the enemy", at least compared to the older generation.
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I don't know if this means the majority thinks one-party rule is necessarily a good thing, so much as they think that the Dems need heavy control over government just to shift the country back to the centre.
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Darth Wong wrote:I don't know if this means the majority thinks one-party rule is necessarily a good thing, so much as they think that the Dems need heavy control over government just to shift the country back to the centre.
It means they are fine with the idea of the Democrats having complete control of the government- not that one party rule is good, but keeping the Republicans from touching anything is.
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I think the Dems will manage single-party rule much better than the GOP for several reasons.

First, they actually have an opposition within the party, which was non-existent among Republicans throughout the DeLay era. The Blue Dogs will defect from any overreaching initiative; in fact they've been passively blocking a lot of initiatives already. I think they'll be pulled more into the liberal consensus by a President Obama, but they'll still be there with their feet on the brakes.

Second, the Democratic Party represents a diverse electorate. The Republicans had The Base (white evangelicals), The Bank (big business), and The Brains (neoconservatives). The Democrats are working for Blacks, Latinos, Jews, labor, urbanites, the well educated, and young people. This Rainbow Coalition does not lend itself to unilateral action, not to mention the fact that Democratic voters are smart enough to be able to tell when they're being fucked by their own party--look at the low approval ratings of Congress in the past couple years. The Republican base was way more easily distracted.

Third, the Democratic Party's platform and philosophy of government doesn't suck shit. This is a big advantage they have over the GOP.
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I should point out that in Canada, we have effective one-party rule whenever a party has a majority government. It doesn't seem to result in chaos or wildly overreaching policy changes whenever there is a change of government. But I think that Canada is perhaps averse to radicalism by nature; we are a "play it safe" kind of people and always have been. After all, we didn't go along with the Americans on that whole "revolt against Britain" thing.
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Darth Wong wrote:I should point out that in Canada, we have effective one-party rule whenever a party has a majority government. It doesn't seem to result in chaos or wildly overreaching policy changes whenever there is a change of government. But I think that Canada is perhaps averse to radicalism by nature; we are a "play it safe" kind of people and always have been. After all, we didn't go along with the Americans on that whole "revolt against Britain" thing.
I don't think it's peculiar to Canada, it's true of most Parliamentary states, except Italy. The American system usually has an incredible rate of incumbent retention, and it doesn't have votes of no-confidence, so the ruling government can be held immediately responsible for fucking up. If Katrina had happened to Rotterdam, the British Army had got caught running an Abu Ghraib, or Angela Merkel had got caught in a Warrantless Wiretapping scandal, the ruling government would probably have fallen and new elections would be called. But the US federal system provides for nothing of the kind. Thus I think there's less fear of fucking up.
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May need to be taken w/a grain of salt, for two reasons: GWB hating and CNN.

From Fordham's Web site, CNN ranks #6 in accuracy this last election:
The following list ranks the 23 organizations by the accuracy of their final, national preelection
polls (as reported on pollster.com).
1. Rasmussen (11/1-3)**
1. Pew (10/29-11/1)**
2. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)
3. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)
4. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)*
5. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*
5. ARG (10/25-27)*
6. CNN (10/30-11/1)
6. Ipsos/McClatchy (10/30-11/1)
7. DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 (11/1-3)
8. AP/Yahoo/KN (10/17-27)
9. Democracy Corps (D) (10/30-11/2)
10. FOX (11/1-2)
11. Economist/YouGov (10/25-27)
12. IBD/TIPP (11/1-3)
13. NBC/WSJ (11/1-2)
14. ABC/Post (10/30-11/2)
15. Marist College (11/3)
16. CBS (10/31-11/2)
17. Gallup (10/31-11/2)
18. Reuters/ C-SPAN/ Zogby (10/31-11/3)
19. CBS/Times (10/25-29)
20. Newsweek (10/22-23)
The pdf can be found here. If it were a Pew report, I'd lend it a bit more credence.
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Darth Wong wrote:I should point out that in Canada, we have effective one-party rule whenever a party has a majority government. It doesn't seem to result in chaos or wildly overreaching policy changes whenever there is a change of government. But I think that Canada is perhaps averse to radicalism by nature; we are a "play it safe" kind of people and always have been. After all, we didn't go along with the Americans on that whole "revolt against Britain" thing.
I'd have to agree with Pablo on this Mike, I believe it's something that we inherit from our Westminster roots. Basically for us to say; 'Well you've had your shot for the past few terms and done fuck all, time to give it to the other guy now.' Is no big thing. The world will not end, the evil nasty horde of whatever will not fall upon us, we'll just have 4 (or 5) years of being ruled from a different perspective, and if we don't like it? We'll change it.

But I do admit there is something to admire about the principle of a non-winner-take-all system in the US, if even though the practice of it has been very poor of late. And oh yeah, the above obviously does not apply to Italy. :lol:
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Crown wrote: I'd have to agree with Pablo on this Mike, I believe it's something that we inherit from our Westminster roots. Basically for us to say; 'Well you've had your shot for the past few terms and done fuck all, time to give it to the other guy now.' Is no big thing.
If Canada's civil service infrastructure is also inherited from Westminster roots, it's probably also helped by the fact that there's less partisanship in civil service than America. This is, essentially, the Sir Humphrey effect, where the main concern of the civil service is to under no circumstances allow politicians of any stripe to get away with interfering with the running of the civil service.
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Darth Wong wrote:I should point out that in Canada, we have effective one-party rule whenever a party has a majority government. It doesn't seem to result in chaos or wildly overreaching policy changes whenever there is a change of government. But I think that Canada is perhaps averse to radicalism by nature; we are a "play it safe" kind of people and always have been. After all, we didn't go along with the Americans on that whole "revolt against Britain" thing.
There is definitely a subconscious or openly-articulated fear that our country and its leaders are proto-tyrants who cannot be trusted with uniform power or excessive ease of action; the Congressional-Presidental system ensured much of the time the head of government and state will not be able to necessarily pass his own programs, while this is obviously requisite in any majority government in a parliamentary system.
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