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This morning, NPR reported that one of the very first acts by the new president was to suspend the slew of midnight executive orders signed by Chimpus Caesar pending review by the current administration, as announced by Rahm Emmanuel.

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They have that announcement up on CNN's ticker page. It doesn't report much more than this though, so not really worth reposting. But it is delicious news.
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I didn't really think any of those were actually going to get past Inauguration Day in the first place or that the agencies in question even ever considered making preparations to implement them, since they had to know the new president wasn't going to just let them go into force. Which is why I never worried about any of them at all when that news broke last month.
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How can this be? I thought Bush had a nefarious plan to screw over the Obama administration by bogging them down with months and years worth of paperwork to undo the Bush Administration's antics. Of course, I also recall people screeching about breadlines, martial law, emergency measure to keep Bush and the Republicans in power, and other idiotic conspiracy theories, so maybe the screeching about Executive Orders was to be expected.

That being said, it's nice to have Obama and his team in charge and conservatives wasting their time complaining about flubbed oaths and "waste" on the inauguration.
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I don't envy Obama's job. It seems everyone is expecting him to step in and magic everything better, and no matter how he manages to improve things someone will be unsatisfied. Still, its nice to see he's hitting the ground running, and I'm actually optimistic about his administration.
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Patrick Degan wrote:One stroke of the pen...
Sounds about right. But it doesn't have the high drama of Dick Cheney rushing to the Government Publishing Office and ordering them not to print the outgoing regulations and orders signed by Clinton. :mrgreen:
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Does this include the one about carrying pistols on national parks?
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:Hear that sound? That is the sound if my massive sigh of relief.
There are too many apt ways to put this and we needn't invoke the word "change" either.

I prefer: a breath of fresh air.

The real kicker though and this applies to me: there are young adults who's only direct frame-of-reference for political matters is the Bush years, because before his tenure, they were too young or not at all even politically aware or active. Of course I have the knowledge informed by what I read and others around me, but his presidency is all I have experienced and appreciated. Clinton... played a saxaphone and lied about a blowjob -- I was in grade school and couldn't be arsed to know more than that. But Bush? My political compass was shaped by his presidency alone.
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Uh oh. Prepare yourself, Brungardt!
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Loner wrote:Does this include the one about carrying pistols on national parks?
I don't think so. That one seemed fairly far along the process. But it would be a good idea to talk with local park officials before you even consider carrying.
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SPC Brungardt wrote:The real kicker though and this applies to me: there are young adults who's only direct frame-of-reference for political matters is the Bush years, because before his tenure, they were too young or not at all even politically aware or active. Of course I have the knowledge informed by what I read and others around me, but his presidency is all I have experienced and appreciated. Clinton... played a saxaphone and lied about a blowjob -- I was in grade school and couldn't be arsed to know more than that. But Bush? My political compass was shaped by his presidency alone.
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Alyeska wrote:
SPC Brungardt wrote:The real kicker though and this applies to me: there are young adults who's only direct frame-of-reference for political matters is the Bush years, because before his tenure, they were too young or not at all even politically aware or active. Of course I have the knowledge informed by what I read and others around me, but his presidency is all I have experienced and appreciated. Clinton... played a saxaphone and lied about a blowjob -- I was in grade school and couldn't be arsed to know more than that. But Bush? My political compass was shaped by his presidency alone.
Young whelp. I remember seeing Regan on TV and the Dukakis/Bush election. The highlight was Dukakis riding in a M1 Abrams tank. NBC Nightly News talking about Star Wars (the missile shield) was very big for over a year. The Berlin Wall coming down was the highlight of the end of the Cold War.
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SancheztheWhaler wrote:How can this be? I thought Bush had a nefarious plan to screw over the Obama administration by bogging them down with months and years worth of paperwork to undo the Bush Administration's antics. Of course, I also recall people screeching about breadlines, martial law, emergency measure to keep Bush and the Republicans in power, and other idiotic conspiracy theories, so maybe the screeching about Executive Orders was to be expected.

That being said, it's nice to have Obama and his team in charge and conservatives wasting their time complaining about flubbed oaths and "waste" on the inauguration.
The thing is that once an agency regulation makes it out of the "comment" period you essentially have to issue a NEW regulation to countermand it (and that has to go through its own comment period, get dpassed by the agency heas, etc). So any Bush-era regulation that was still in the comment period that didn't get the halt put on it could and would still come to pass once the relevant period of time had passed. Some of the regulations out there that were talked about in the malregulatios thread will likely already have passed beyod the reach of Obama's Executive Order but that said he didn't waste any time in order to catch those which were close. I think the order went out at 2pm on Inaguration Day so basically nothign slipped through the net while Team Obama was busy actually moving in to the White House.
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Sheesh, the first time I remember politics as such I remember Reagan in 1988, I think he was campaigning on behalf of George Bush I, stopping at a McDonalds in Seattle. I was... Five and a half at the time. One of the reasons we'd gone into Seattle was for this awesome traveling show at the Seattle Center with a Cosmonaut and an Astronaut from the joint mission in the 70's there, and I got this collection of Soviet buttons and stuff. That, and the Red Army Choir was performing around the same time. My first coherent view of politics was when my mother got briefly detained for holding a banner over a freeway, also in that same way, which was against county code or something.
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SPC Brungardt wrote:The real kicker though and this applies to me: there are young adults who's only direct frame-of-reference for political matters is the Bush years, because before his tenure, they were too young or not at all even politically aware or active. Of course I have the knowledge informed by what I read and others around me, but his presidency is all I have experienced and appreciated. Clinton... played a saxaphone and lied about a blowjob -- I was in grade school and couldn't be arsed to know more than that. But Bush? My political compass was shaped by his presidency alone.
Young whelp. I remember seeing Regan on TV and the Dukakis/Bush election. The highlight was Dukakis riding in a M1 Abrams tank. NBC Nightly News talking about Star Wars (the missile shield) was very big for over a year. The Berlin Wall coming down was the highlight of the end of the Cold War.
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