I remember a few years back there was some kind of vandal-activist group in France that targeted SUVs, and this struck a similar chord with me. I seem to recall the German chancellor not mincing words in laying the blame on America for the current economic crisis, and I guess this allays any doubts that Germany might be better off.Feb. 27 (Bloomberg) -- When Berlin resident Simone Klostermann returned from vacation and couldn’t find her Mercedes SLK, she thought it had been towed. Police told her the 35,000- euro ($45,000) car had been torched.
“They’d squirted something flammable into the car’s engine block in the gap between the windshield and the hood,” said Klostermann. “The engine was completely destroyed.”
The 34-year-old’s experience isn’t unique in the German capital. At least 29 vehicles were destroyed in arson attacks this year, most of them luxury cars, according to police. The number is already about 30 percent of the total for 2008. The latest to go up in flames was a Porsche, on Feb. 14, two days after a Mercedes was set alight in a public car park.
While youths in Athens protest by throwing Molotov cocktails, in Paris by toppling barricades, and in Budapest by hurling eggs at politicians, protesters in Berlin rage at their economic plight by targeting the most expensive cars -- symbols of German wealth and power.
A group calling itself BMW -- the initials stand for Movement for Militant Resistance in German -- has claimed responsibility for several attacks in left-wing magazines and Web sites, police spokesman Bernhard Schodrowski said.
One-third of the incidents are classed as “political,” prompting officers to assign a special unit to investigate, Schodrowski said. No arrests have been made. Schodrowski attributed the arson to “a protest against the world economy and rising rents.”
‘Quick to Attack’
German unemployment began to rise last November after almost three years of declines. Deutsche Bank AG Chief Economist Norbert Walter predicts the German economy, Europe’s biggest, may shrink by more than 5 percent this year.
The worst recession since World War II is fueling anger among youths across Europe who “perceive their future as rather precarious,” said Margit Mayer, a politics professor at Berlin’s Free University.
“Whether you look at the Berlin events or these anarchist groups in other European cities and countries, they are all making reference to the deepening economic crisis and how the various governments are dealing with them,” said Mayer, a specialist in urban social and protest movements.
Some groups are “very quick to attack whoever they can make out as responsible for having robbed them of decent life prospects,” according to Mayer.
The Berlin car burnings have been concentrated in up-and- coming neighborhoods such as Prenzlauer Berg, where Klostermann’s car was destroyed in May.
‘Don’t Move in Here’
There, new housing and building redevelopments are pushing out the squatter scene that flourished after East and West Berlin were reunited in 1990, said Andrej Holm, a sociologist at Goethe University in Frankfurt who has studied the change.
Rents that were about half the city average 10 years ago are now about 40 percent above the average, and the car attacks are an attempt to drive wealthy newcomers away, Holm said.
“It means: ‘rich people, don’t move in here -- your cars will be trashed, we don’t want you here’,” he said.
Representatives from Porsche Automobil Holding SE, Daimler AG, the maker of Mercedes, and Bayerische Motoren Werke AG declined to comment on the attacks. Daimler spokeswoman Ute von Fellberg said the matter was about security in Berlin.
Berlin Matter
“This is not a matter for the producer, rather it’s a matter for the city of Berlin,” BMW spokesman Alexander Bilgeri said today in a phone interview.
While Prenzlauer Berg and other central neighborhoods such as Friedrichshain and Kreuzberg are thriving, at least in parts, Berlin as a whole remains Germany’s “subsidy capital” almost 20 years after the Berlin Wall fell, said Tobias Just, a real-estate economist with Deutsche Bank in Frankfurt. Unemployment, at 14.1 percent in February, is almost double the national average.
Oliver Kappelle, who moved with his wife and two children to Friedrichshain, is unfazed by the perceived threat.
One night last month, Kappelle came across a “heap of junk that used to be a Porsche the night before,” he said. “I was just relieved that he didn’t park in the empty space behind me.”
Baader-Meinhof
Berlin has a history of political protest, with anarchist demonstrators regularly clashing with police on the streets of Kreuzberg during May 1 marches. Kreuzberg, which abutted the Berlin Wall, is represented in parliament by the Green Party’s Hans-Christian Stroebele, a former lawyer who defended members of the Baader-Meinhof gang in court.
Likewise, arson attacks on cars are not new: a Web site, “Burning Cars,” was set up to track the incidents in May 2007, one month before a summit in the northern German resort of Heiligendamm of the Group of Eight industrialized nations. There have been 290 attacks on cars since then, among them 55 Mercedes and 29 BMWs damaged or destroyed by fire, the site records.
“I wouldn’t advise someone to park their Porsche on the street” in Kreuzberg, Berlin police commissioner Dieter Glietsch told the Taz newspaper in June last year.
As the frequency of attacks increases, Klostermann, a company manager who has lived in Prenzlauer Berg for 12 years, remains unbowed.
“I would never want to be regarded as someone who can be driven out of a place where I enjoy living,” she said.
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Oh, I'm so sympathetic to their plight now. The ease with which they torched those cars was what finally convinced me.
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Eh. This sort of thing is nothing new and the article itself is of little value. Also, I doubt this is in any way related to the economy - this sort of group and people emulating it has been active a long time.
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At least the rioters could've torched one of the banks responsible for the mess, that would've sent a pretty clear message and likely gotten a lot more sympathy. As it is, I have about as much sympathy for them as I do for the drug dealing leachfucks living in the subsidized housing complex a couple blocks from my home, which is to say none.

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Hang a few CEOs or bankers from lamp posts and then we'll talk. 
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Torching non-corporate private property is rarely, if ever, a legit form of protest.
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Fixed. Jesus Christ, what makes them think this will gain them anything?Solauren wrote:Torching non-corporate private property is rarely, if ever, never a legit form of protest.
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They are a very small fringe group of nutjobs. Best is to ignore them while the justice system takes care of them.
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I'll have to echo Thanas, the pyromaniacs burning cars arrived everywhere after France - the Paris incidents just gave the pyromanical nutjobs an excuse to go on a car-burning rampage. Do you think Latvia, Germany, Russia have coordinated some sort of social protest? I think it's just idiots burning cars.
The Paris incidents had more social protest behind them than .... this.
The Paris incidents had more social protest behind them than .... this.
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The world is full of idiots with criminal intentions and no real motive. I’m sure we’ll see more and more social problems blamed on the economy as time goes on, with greatly varying levels of legitimacy. People with real grievances would probably not be satisfied by torching single individual cars anyway. They’d burn down whole dealerships, as has happened in the US with various eco terrorist groups.
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Really?Rogue 9 wrote:Fixed. Jesus Christ, what makes them think this will gain them anything?Solauren wrote:Torching non-corporate private property is rarely, if ever, never a legit form of protest.
Wooooo! Lower property values=lower rent/more abandoned buildings for squatting!! :hobo smiley:‘Don’t Move in Here’
There, new housing and building redevelopments are pushing out the squatter scene that flourished after East and West Berlin were reunited in 1990, said Andrej Holm, a sociologist at Goethe University in Frankfurt who has studied the change.
Rents that were about half the city average 10 years ago are now about 40 percent above the average, and the car attacks are an attempt to drive wealthy newcomers away, Holm said.
“It means: ‘rich people, don’t move in here -- your cars will be trashed, we don’t want you here’,” he said.
Representatives from Porsche Automobil Holding SE, Daimler AG, the maker of Mercedes, and Bayerische Motoren Werke AG declined to comment on the attacks. Daimler spokeswoman Ute von Fellberg said the matter was about security in Berlin.
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For one, this is Berlin, they're always...special. And secondly, I remember reading about car-burnings in Berlin way before the crisis. This is just another case of "anti-capitalist" protesters in Berlin...
If this should happen here in Stuttgart, *then* I'd be concerned a little bit.
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Fixed in what way? What exactly is a "legit form of protest"? Are by "legit", do you mean "legal"? Unlawful protest has always been the first recourse when people get really pissed off. In fact, it could be said that the potential of massive civil unrest on the part of the poor is the only real brake on the tendency of the political and monied classes to collude for mutual benefit. Civil disobedience tends to break laws, and property damage without human injury is actually not bad as far as angry lower-class protesters go.Rogue 9 wrote:Fixed.Solauren wrote:Torching non-corporate private property is rarely, if ever, never a legit form of protest.
They're mostly doing it out of anger and resentment. This ain't rocket science. They feel that the rich class has looted the country and manipulated the system in order to enrich themselves at the cost of the rest of the population, so they are angry and resentful and they take out that emotion by destroying things which are precious to the rich people: their ostentatious four-wheeled status symbols.Jesus Christ, what makes them think this will gain them anything?
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Yeah, the best way to deal with a worsening economic and social condition is.... to make it even worse by torching property. Well it's not surprising, which makes it really sad.
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If you want to burn a car you take one of these solid paraffin grill lighters, burn it and place it on or under a tyre. Or if you need more time you put a burning cigarette onto the grill lighter and place it under the tyre. It takes a while until the tyre and finally the whole car catches fire. That way you have plenty of time to get away before anybody will notice that the car is on fire at all.
That´s the way they usually do it, not by pouring accelerator fluids over them.
Very effective and safe for the arsonist.
However, this has nothing to do with the financial crisis, car burnings have been around in Berlin longer than that.
That´s the way they usually do it, not by pouring accelerator fluids over them.
Very effective and safe for the arsonist.
However, this has nothing to do with the financial crisis, car burnings have been around in Berlin longer than that.
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This whole thing is about protesting against upvaluing certain districts of the town.
Friedrichshain and Kreuzberg, parts that were hit hard by the car burnings used to be relatively poor districts with many foreigners, esspecially turks, students, artists and stuff like that. This creative potential turned the districts into hip places. Now the yuppies are starting to move in in order to get some underground image. This of course increases the prices of rents and forces poorer people to leave the area. Of course this again causes hate towards rich people which, in it´s extremes, leads to arson.
Friedrichshain and Kreuzberg, parts that were hit hard by the car burnings used to be relatively poor districts with many foreigners, esspecially turks, students, artists and stuff like that. This creative potential turned the districts into hip places. Now the yuppies are starting to move in in order to get some underground image. This of course increases the prices of rents and forces poorer people to leave the area. Of course this again causes hate towards rich people which, in it´s extremes, leads to arson.
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I agree. I know of incidents like this and similar ones (acid attacks on cars) from Bremen and Hamburg which happened more than 12 years ago.Dahak wrote:For one, this is Berlin, they're always...special. And secondly, I remember reading about car-burnings in Berlin way before the crisis. This is just another case of "anti-capitalist" protesters in Berlin...
If this should happen here in Stuttgart, *then* I'd be concerned a little bit.
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I recall that something happened in Hungary recently, a guy in a hood. He was very careful and torched the car completely.
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Rogue 9 wrote:Fixed. Jesus Christ, what makes them think this will gain them anything?Solauren wrote:Torching non-corporate private property is rarely, if ever, never a legit form of protest.
Sorry, that should have read vandalizing+. My haste.
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