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Obama overturns Bush policy on stem cells

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Obama overturns Bush policy on stem cells

By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer
43 mins ago
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama said Monday he is allowing federal taxpayer dollars to fund significantly broader research on embryonic stem cells because "medical miracles do not happen simply by accident," and promised his administration would make up for the ground lost under his predecessor.
Fulfilling a campaign promise, Obama signed an executive order expected to set in motion increased research that supporters believe could uncover cures for serious ailments from diabetes to paralysis. Obama's action, before a packed East Room audience, reverses former President George W. Bush's policy on stem cell research by undoing a 2001 directive that banned federal funding for research into stem lines created after that date.
Bush limited the use of taxpayer money to only the 21 stem cell lines that had been produced before his decision. He argued he was defending human life because days-old embryos — although typically from fertility clinics and already destined for destruction — are destroyed to create the stem cell lines.
The Obama order reverses that without addressing a separate legislative ban, which precludes any federal money paying for the development of stem cell lines. The legislation, however, does not prevent funds for research on those lines created without federal funding.
Researchers say the newer lines created with private money during the period of the Bush ban are healthier and better suited to creating treatment for diseases. Embryonic stem cells are master cells that can morph into any cell of the body. Scientists hope to harness them so they can create replacement tissues to treat a variety of diseases — such as new insulin-producing cells for diabetics, cells that could help those with Parkinson's disease or maybe even Alzheimer's, or new nerve connections to restore movement after spinal injury.
Obama called his decision a "difficult and delicate balance," an understatement of the intense emotions generated on both sides of the long, contentious debate. He said he came down on the side of the "majority of Americans" who support increased federal funding for the research, both because strict oversight would prevent problems and because of the great and lifesaving potential it holds.
"Rather than furthering discovery, our government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values," Obama said. "In this case, I believe the two are not inconsistent. As a person of faith, I believe we are called to care for each other and work to ease human suffering. I believe we have been given the capacity and will to pursue this research and the humanity and conscience to do so responsibly."
Obama warned against overstating the eventual benefits of the research. But he said his administration "will vigorously support scientists who pursue this research," taking a slap at his predecessor in the process.
"I cannot guarantee that we will find the treatments and cures we seek. No president can promise that. But I can promise that we will seek them actively, responsibly, and with the urgency required to make up for lost ground."
It's a matter of competitive advantage globally as well, the president argued.
"When government fails to make these investments, opportunities are missed. Promising avenues go unexplored. Some of our best scientists leave for other countries that will sponsor their work. And those countries may surge ahead of ours in the advances that transform our lives," Obama said.
Rep. Eric Cantor, the No. 2 Republican in the House, said the White House should focus on the economy instead.
"Frankly, federal funding of embryonic stem cell research can bring on embryo harvesting, perhaps even human cloning that occurs," he said Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union." "We don't want that. ... And certainly that is something that we ought to be talking about, but let's take care of business first. People are out of jobs."
The president was insistent that his order would not open the door to human cloning.
"We will develop strict guidelines, which we will rigorously enforce, because we cannot ever tolerate misuse or abuse," Obama said. "And we will ensure that our government never opens the door to the use of cloning for human reproduction. It is dangerous, profoundly wrong, and has no place in our society, or any society."
Obama also issued a memo promising to restore "scientific integrity to government decision-making." That policy change was aimed more broadly than the stem cell debate, to reach into areas such as climate change as well.
"Promoting science isn't just about providing resources it is also about protecting free and open inquiry," Obama said. "It is about letting scientists like those here today do their jobs, free from manipulation or coercion, and listening to what they tell us, even when it's inconvenient especially when it's inconvenient. It is about ensuring that scientific data is never distorted or concealed to serve a political agenda and that we make scientific decisions based on facts, not ideology.
Obama said the presidential memorandum was the beginning of a process that would ensure that his administration: bases its decision "on the soundest science," appoints scientific advisers based on their credentials and experience, not their politics or ideology, and is "open and honest" about the science behind its decisions.
But remember everyone, Obama is more of the same (because he hasn't pulled soldiers out of Iraq/begun war crimes tribunals of Bush/defends our POW or enemy combatant policy in Afghanistan/etc.)!

Sarcasm aside, this is excellent news. A guy on the radio this AM was wondering whether lifting this ban could have (significant) economic benefits, as it would open up new opportunities should research prove successful. Even if it doesn't, the philosophical change (science rather than politics/religion) is a big, big deal.
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We are still deciding science on politics- the politics of "Will it help people", not "Is it a wedge issue".

I don't think it will boost the economy, however, the medical profession should see some benefits.
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Samuel wrote:We are still deciding science on politics- the politics of "Will it help people", not "Is it a wedge issue".

I don't think it will boost the economy, however, the medical profession should see some benefits.
How is it deciding science on politics? It just means that federal money will go to trying to see if embryonic stem cell research can yield medical knowledge that could save lives. It was the other side that was trying to argue (insincerely, since they didn't give a shit) that embryonic stem cell research simply wouldn't work or wasn't worth it, so we should just not even try.
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Samuel wrote:We are still deciding science on politics- the politics of "Will it help people", not "Is it a wedge issue".

I don't think it will boost the economy, however, the medical profession should see some benefits.
There are a finite number of dollars available for federal research grants, whatever Economic Clusterfuck Obscene Number Fatigue (ECONF) might lead you to believe.

Prioritizing research that seems more likely to lead to helpful innovations over less direct advancement isn't political except in the most deliberately accusatory sense.
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Sorry for the near-necro, but I felt it was related.

Obama signs new stem-cell research ban
On Wednesday, only two days after he lifted President Bush’s executive order banning federal funding of stem cell research that requires the destruction of human embryos, President Barack Obama signed a law that explicilty bans federal funding of any "research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death."

The provision was buried in the 465-page omnibus appropriations bill that Obama signed Wednesday. Known as the Dickey-Wicker amendment, it has been included in the annual appropriations bill for the Department of Health and Human Services every fiscal year since 1996.

The amendment says, in part: "None of the funds made available in this Act may be used for—(1) the creation of a human embryo or embryos for research purposes; or (2) research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death."

Found in Section 509 of Title V of the omnibus bill (at page 280 of the 465-page document), the federal funding ban not only prohibits the government from providing tax dollars to support research that kills or risks injury to a human embryo, it also mandates that the government use an all-inclusive definition of “human embryo” that encompasses any nascent human life from the moment that life comes into being, even if created in a laboratory through cloning, in vitro fertilization or any other means.

“For the purposes of this section,” says the law, “the term ‘human embryo or embryos’ includes any organism … that is derived by fertilization, parthenogenesis, cloning, or any other means from one or more human gametes or human diploid cells.” (The entire verbatim text of Section 509 of the omnibus spending law is reprinted at the bottom of this article.)

At a widely publicized White House ceremony on Monday, President Obama signed his own executive order lifting an executive order that President Bush had signed in 2001. While allowing federal funding of research involving embryonic stem cell lines that had already been created from embryos that had already been destroyed, Bush's 2001 order denied federal funding to research that required the killing of any additional embryos.

“For the past 8 years, the authority of the Department of Health and Human Services, including the National Institutes of Health (NIH), to fund and conduct human embryonic stem cell research has been limited by Presidential actions,” said the order that President Obama signed Monday. “The purpose of this order is to remove these limitations on scientific inquiry, to expand NIH support for the exploration of human stem cell research, and in so doing to enhance the contribution of America's scientists to important new discoveries and new therapies for the benefit of humankind.”

The order went on to say: “The Secretary of Health and Human Services (Secretary), through the Director of NIH, may support and conduct responsible, scientifically worthy human stem cell research, including human embryonic stem cell research, to the extent permitted by law.”

Thanks to the Dickey-Wicker language in Section 509 of the omnibus bill, the "extent permitted by law" will continue to forbid federal funding of research that even puts embryos at risk.
So, I hope they got some good research done in those two days.
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Haha! Man, that's hilarious. He's just yanking their chains. Or forgetting how to read.

My biopsych prof is going to be pretty choked about this, she had articles about Obama lifting the ban ending a couple lectures week before last.
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What the fuck... I mean Really WHAT, THE FUCK?

Obama Re-bans it two days after un-banning it?
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It only covers funding to the Department of Health and Human Services, and presumably instead of assuming that this was a mistake, perhaps we should simply assume that no money for funding stem cell research would come from that Department's budget anyway, thus making the clause irrelevant and not worth a congressional budget battle?
Yeesh, give the man some credit.
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What a worthless coward.
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Tanasinn wrote:What a worthless coward.
Yes, because the bill in question has a clause inserted by some fucktard Senator to ban that department's listed budget from being used to fund stem cell research, when you have no evidence that the department's budget would even be used for stem cell research, when it's just the operations budget for DHHS. By all means, use the fact that the money to keep the lights on at DHHS can't be diverted to stem cell research to condemn Obama. How mature! Such a thoughtful and extensive reading of the article! Perhaps next your mother will introduce you to Dr. Seuss books.
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How about "what an unthorough moron," then? Does that grab you? I voted for the guy, too, so I'm particularly annoyed by this.
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To elaborate, it would be extremely easy to then proceed to authorize separate funds in the budget, or to divert funds from other areas not covered under the act.

I'll also note that funding embryonic stem cell research is already banned under congressional law, and this is congressional law, so there was no change from when the Executive Order was lifted to now--Congress is still banning the funding either way.

That, to, you should have read.
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Tanasinn wrote:How about "what an unthorough moron," then? Does that grab you? I voted for the guy, too, so I'm particularly annoyed by this.
If the dear little child would have noticed from the OP:

The Obama order reverses that without addressing a separate legislative ban, which precludes any federal money paying for the development of stem cell lines.

Jesus christ.
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Basically, CNS is an extremely biased news source, which went out of its way to give people a false impression in this case, and the OP made the mistake of using them without doing his research.

The appropriations bill in no remote respect banned anything that the executive order would have allowed, and simply basically continued the current existing law on the subject.

The appropriations and other legislative limitations are also VASTLY less of an issue than Bush's policies on the matter, because all that needs to happen is someone creates a new stem cell line using a separate funding source, and then any researchers can use them while receiving federal funding with essentially no issues. Its only a real issue for a couple of specialized areas of embryonic stem cell research where its a real major issue for the moment.

The appropriations bill which should have been signed last year and just covers this fiscal year, was never going to be the place where this policy is repealed. It was always going to be something decided quite possibly entirely in its own separate bill in the future, with Obama hoping that Congress does so soon. Legislature on this issue has the additional major benefit that it would prevent a future Republican President from easily reversing this policy change. Repealing a bill specifically allowing federal funding in the future would require getting through a Senate filibuster the other way with Democrats blocking things and the reality that there are also Senate Republicans including Orin Hatch who have also clearly come out in favor of embryonic stem cell research.
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Tanasinn wrote:What a worthless coward.
Hey genius, perhaps you shouldn't go bitching about Obama being a coward (or more of the same, the left's favorite refrain whenever a politician doesn't kiss their asses) in this thread. For fucks sake, you people are like toddlers throwing tantrums because they only get a scoop of ice cream instead of the whole fucking tub. :banghead:
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If nothing else this reminds us precisely why the media is horrible at reporting on legal matters.
The amendment says, in part: "None of the funds made available in this Act may be used for—(1) the creation of a human embryo or embryos for research purposes; or (2) research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death."
See the part where it says "in this act"? That means it only applies to funds made available in the bill that Obama just signed. This is not a blanket ban on federal funding whatsoever, only from the one that was just passed.
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Aside from the fact that the amendment is limited to that act, there is also the fact that even prior to the Bush ban we had the ability to extract stem cells from the placenta and afterbirth (which are currently disposed of as waste) and that in 2006 Japanese scientists discovered a way to reset pretty much any cell to being a stem cell. Stem cell research does not require the destruction of embryos at all, the key part of getting rid of the Bush ban is that American scientists couldn't even use cells produced by these methods, but were instead limited to a mere 13 sources that were known to be heavily contaminated.

In short, Tanasinn is a fucking moron.
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