The JEWS killed Stalin and Destroyed the Soviet Union

[fgalkin]

At least, according to the St. Petersburg Police Academy

A textbook on Russian history, used at a major Russian police academy, openly blames Jews for many of the troubles Russia has experienced in the course of its history, a Rusian daily has revealed.

Students at the St. Petersburg Interior Ministry University have recently been given new manuals on Russian history, the Vremya Novostey daily reports Monday.

The textbook, entitled “The history of Russia’s state and law. 1985-1991”, covers the Soviet period in Russia’s history with specific stress on the Perestroika years. Its author, a Mr. Drozhin, is a professor at the Interior Ministry University, and he doesn’t hesitate to say who should be blamed for the USSR failure.

The paper quotes several statements from the textbook.

“Zionists physically eliminated Stalin.”

“The fall of the USSR and appearance of the CIS on its territory made Hitler’s dream come true. What the German Nazism couldn’t do, Zionism managed to accomplish.”

“Speaking at the Israeli parliament in February 1992, Gorbachev--Garber said, ‘Everything I did to the Soviet Union I did in the name of our God Moses”.

The textbook has been approved without limitations by the St. Petersburg Interior Ministry University, one of Russia’s largest universities training law-enforcement staff.

Anti-Semitism and xenophobia continue to persist in the Russian society, in spite of being severely criticized at the official level.

And my favorite quote, not listed here:
"Trotsky was a resident of the Zionist circles in Russia. He aspired to lead the Dictatorship of the Proletariat not to ease the plight of the oppressed masses, but to receive the maximum ability to carry out the directives of the world Zionist circles"

Good to know our brave militsiya is still being trained in their sacred duty of Beating the Yid to Save Mother Russia.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

[CJvR]

Given Stalins murderousness you could argue a solid case of self defence for any Soviet citizen who killed the bastard.

[K. A. Pital]

Trotsky didn't kill Stalin. It's vice versa. But the guy sure read his history, probably from one of those samizdat "WHITE ARYAN PRIDE TEXTBOOK" or something like that.

“Speaking at the Israeli parliament in February 1992, Gorbachev--Garber said, ‘Everything I did to the Soviet Union I did in the name of our God Moses”.

Awesome.

No, really, that's sad. This sort of tripe would've never seen the light of day, much less even pass the pen of the censor in the times of the Soviet Union this guy professes to defend (I don't really get the message of that book anyway).

Good to know our brave militsiya is still being trained in their sacred duty of Beating the Yid to Save Mother Russia.

That's sad to know. But yeah. And neo-nazis are often protected by the police because they share similar ideals. Also, lots of neo nazis infiltrate law enforcement organs. A nationalist ring was busted just 1 year ago or so, but many remain still.

And people wonder why I don't like modern Russian nationalists - there's nothing to like about this ugly rising tide of hatred.

[fgalkin]

Incidentally, shit like this is why I no longer live in Russia. The other reason was the 98 crisis.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

[K. A. Pital]

I've contemplated moving from Russia but marriage kinda ended these plans... for now.

In any case, the level of corruption in the police has become so atrociously high that there's nothing to wonder about it any longer. When former convicts with openly seen tattoos of criminal clans serve in the police, you know there ain't a thing that will impress you.

It's funny how the guy thinks Jews killed Stalin though. Irony is strong with him:

In answer to your inquiry: National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism. Anti-semitism is of advantage to the exploiters as a lightning conductor that deflects the blows aimed by the working people at capitalism. Anti-semitism is dangerous for the working people as being a false path that leads them off the right road and lands them in the jungle. Hence Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but be irreconcilable, sworn enemies of anti-semitism. In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.

Considering Stalin's dislike of just about every nationality around him, including Jews, and dislike of any trait of "pro" or "anti" nationalism, it's quite likely this guy would've been executed if he'd express such opinions in Stalin's times. Well, maybe not from 1948 to 1949 - but in 1949 he'd still get purged as part of another cleansing of "anti-semites" which followed a purge of high-ranking Jews.

[ray245]

Seriously, don't tell me it will take another revolution before the average Russian can experience a good standard of living. Whenever people talk about a resurgent Russia, they never bothered to look at how bad Russia is at the ground level.

Kinda off-topic, but how bad is the economic crisis in Russia during the late 80s?

[Coyote]

I've contemplated moving from Russia but marriage kinda ended these plans... for now...

You can both immigrate. Argue that this is a better place to bring up potential Li'l Stasniks.

Maybe I can send you the forms?

Here's the information on the Moscow US Immigration office-- From the Immigration Information site that pops up on... you guessed it, Google!

Field Office Director:
Suzanne Sinclair-Smith

Service Area:
The Moscow Field Office has jurisdiction over U.S. immigration matters in the following countries: Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Russian Federation, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan.

Where Are We?
Street Address:
United States Embassy
Novinsky Bulvar 19/23
Moscow 121099
Russian Federation

Mailing Address FROM OUTSIDE THE U.S. and Express Mail:
Field Office Director
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
Department of Homeland Security
American Embassy
8 Bolshoi Devyatinsky Pereulok
Moscow 121099
Russian Federation

Visiting Our Office
We are located on the Garden Ring in central Moscow. The nearest subway stations are "Barrikadnaya" and "Krasnopresnenskaya."

Parking is not readily available near the office.

Appointments:
Appointments are scheduled from 1:00 PM to 4:00 PM and can be made via the Internet at www.infopass.uscis.gov. Choose your country of residence under the list of countries rather than entering a zip code. This will allow you to select an appointment with the appropriate USCIS office. Please bring a printout of your InfoPass appointment letter and a photo ID with you to the appointment.

Walk-ins:
The office is open to the public Monday through Friday 1:00 PM to 4:00 PM. Inquiries and filings are accepted on first-come, first-served basis.

Accessibility for individuals with special needs is available.

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Hours of Operation:
The Moscow Field Office is open for public inquiries Monday through Friday 1:00 PM to 4:00 PM. The office is closed on American and Russian holidays.

Phone: For general inquiries in Russian or English, please call (7-495) 255-9551 from 8 AM to 5 PM Monday to Friday.

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[MKSheppard]

Ironically, I was reading the Fifty Year War last night and Norman Friedman makes a good case for Leninism-Stalinism being about spreading the world revolution -- it's just that Stalin really miscalculated badly -- which does explain his absence for nearly a month in the summer of 1941.

[Elfdart]

Maybe Trotsky did it -like Jason Voorhees in Friday the 13th. Back from the grave to get revenge on those Komsomol counselors who were too busy making out in the woods to save him from the guy with the icepick.

[Setzer]

Neo-Nazi Russians? What next, a wing of the Black Panther Confederate Apologists?

[spaceviking]

Neo-Nazi Russians? What next, a wing of the Black Panther Confederate Apologists?

apparently their are neo nazi groups in isreal (not Palestinian) so Russia doesn't seem so far fetched.

It would be interesting to see if these groups are somewhat new or if they are in anyway connected to the pro Nazi groups within the soviet union during the seconded world war.

[MoralCompass]

Neo-Nazi Russians? What next, a wing of the Black Panther Confederate Apologists?

apparently their are neo nazi groups in isreal (not Palestinian) so Russia doesn't seem so far fetched.

It would be interesting to see if these groups are somewhat new or if they are in anyway connected to the pro Nazi groups within the soviet union during the seconded world war.

Anti-semitism in Russia predates Nazism by at least a century. Heck, the pogroms of the late 19th century helped spur the creation of modern Israel.

[TC Pilot]

Russian neo-Nazis have been around in Russia since at least the mid-90s. But you're just as likely to find, or have found at least, ultra-nationalists in the Communist Party or even LDPR, though not the extreme "Russian for Russians/let's reclaim the empire" cases.

[K. A. Pital]

Heck, the pogroms of the late 19th century helped spur the creation of modern Israel.

Pogroms continued in the early XX century as well. I don't know about Israel, but in Russia, they helped to create Birobidzhan. Or rather, make it what it is now.

Stalin really miscalculated badly -- which does explain his absence for nearly a month in the summer of 1941.

I haven't heard about him being absent from his place in summer 1941 - well, aside from faulty or simply erroneous memoirs. Well, at least not since his cabinet secretary's notes were published.

You can both immigrate.

Is that a pun? And anyway, I won't leave the territories of the Second World even if I could. I could move to China or Belorussia, or anywhere in the former Warsaw Pact, but not to the First World, and especially, not to the US of A. And even if I would move, that would be most likely temporary. I will remain in Russia or thereabouts, because I do feel a sense of loyalty to this society that has brought me up, given me free education and medicine. Leaving it with the skills I have would be not really grateful.

[Darth Yoshi]

apparently their are neo nazi groups in isreal (not Palestinian) so Russia doesn't seem so far fetched.

Wait, what?

Also, it's there, not their.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

apparently their are neo nazi groups in isreal (not Palestinian) so Russia doesn't seem so far fetched.

Wait, what?

Also, it's there, not their.

It was posted on the forums. Apparently, they immigrated from Russia or somewhere in E. Europe and caused some trouble in Israel.

[Pelranius]

apparently their are neo nazi groups in isreal (not Palestinian) so Russia doesn't seem so far fetched.

Wait, what?

Also, it's there, not their.

Probably just a standard case of self hating ethnic Jews attention whoring (I don't know why, maybe mommy didn't tuck them in at night). Though there are reports of bald men attacking Ethiopian Jews and Arabs.

[Samuel]

apparently their are neo nazi groups in isreal (not Palestinian) so Russia doesn't seem so far fetched.

Wait, what?

Also, it's there, not their.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 985808.stm

[Darth Yoshi]

Oh, them. That's right; I'd completely forgotten about them. Funnily enough, the Beeb article says they were all immigrants from the USSR.

[Edi]

Is that a pun? And anyway, I won't leave the territories of the Second World even if I could. I could move to China or Belorussia, or anywhere in the former Warsaw Pact, but not to the First World, and especially, not to the US of A. And even if I would move, that would be most likely temporary. I will remain in Russia or thereabouts, because I do feel a sense of loyalty to this society that has brought me up, given me free education and medicine. Leaving it with the skills I have would be not really grateful.

How about Finland, Stas? You speak agood English and are a native Russian and there is a serious shortage of people with knowledge and especially Russian language skills here where certain fields of business are concerned.

[K. A. Pital]

Finland is nice, and it's indeed closer to home than most nations. Who knows these Russians. I do feel a sense of loyalty to this society here though, especially after seeing it in extremely bad shape of the last years - I had countless opportunities to emigrate but didn't, it didn't feel right. If all the educated and the qualified, all the young and labour-capable men go away, what's left? Ailing nation with a demographic resembling wartime and lots of abandoned old men? I feel my nation needs my labour, and until I feel otherwise I'm staying here.

[Coyote]

Finland is nice, and it's indeed closer to home than most nations. Who knows these Russians. I do feel a sense of loyalty to this society here though, especially after seeing it in extremely bad shape of the last years - I had countless opportunities to emigrate but didn't, it didn't feel right. If all the educated and the qualified, all the young and labour-capable men go away, what's left? Ailing nation with a demographic resembling wartime and lots of abandoned old men? I feel my nation needs my labour, and until I feel otherwise I'm staying here.

That's actually an admirable sentiment. I hope your society turns around. But I see a lot of people coming to the US from Russia, and a lot of Russian women marrying out.

(I also saw an advertisement for Russian brides: "You are everything a Russian man is not: clean, sober, and employed". I had to laugh... and cry a bit, too...)

What do you think it would take to turn the place around over there?

[fgalkin]

A very commendable sentiment, Stas.

I was sort of considering returning to Russia, before the current crisis hit. Of course, my situation is somewhat different, what with me spending as much time being educated outside of Russia as in it, but still I hope to have a chance to go back there someday.

Of course, being half-Jewish, shit like this does nothing to encourage me.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

[Big Orange]

Bigots and anti-Semites are cut from the same cloth as religious zealots in general, so internal consistancy and grounded logic do not apply. The ridiculous concept of Armenian and Jewish Neo-Nazis is not shocking considering the deeply ingrained social problems following the collapse of the Soviet Union. Non-whites are severely mistreated and bullied on a daily basis as well, with motiveless physical attacks against black people likely being helped or ignored by police officers if they include Neo-Nazis in their ranks.

[Sidewinder]

Trotsky didn't kill Stalin. It's vice versa. But the guy sure read his history, probably from one of those samizdat "WHITE ARYAN PRIDE TEXTBOOK" or something like that.

This is terribly ironic, considering alt-history writers often assume Hitler would've won WWII if he did not make Stalin his mortal enemy, did not attack the USSR, and did not declare Slavs to be "subhumans," i.e., not Aryans and not worth recruiting as allies against England.

Good to know our brave militsiya is still being trained in their sacred duty of Beating the Yid to Save Mother Russia.

That's sad to know. But yeah. And neo-nazis are often protected by the police because they share similar ideals. Also, lots of neo nazis infiltrate law enforcement organs. A nationalist ring was busted just 1 year ago or so, but many remain still.

I'm reminded of Southerners infiltrating the US Republican Party, i.e., the party of Abraham Lincoln, the man who did not bend over and take it when their ancestors started the American Civil War (yes, the South fired the first shot), and who unleashed William T. Sherman upon their states.

These scenarios are as ridiculous as one in which Klansmen infiltrate the NAACP. Unfortunately, they're also real.