97 die in Indonesian air crash

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An Indonesian military transport plane carrying troops and their families has crashed on the island of Java, killing at least 97 people, officials say.

At least two people died on the ground when the plane came down in a village, hitting houses before skidding into a rice field where it caught fire.

The plane had been flying from Jakarta to eastern Java when it crashed.

Visibility appears to have been good and there is no indication yet of what caused the crash.

It missed landing at Iswahyudi air force base and struck houses in the village of Geplak, 4km away, at around 0630 local time (2330 GMT).

Initial reports say the last contact with the crew was a few minutes before the plane came down, as it was making its final approach to land.

Tail intact

The C-130 Hercules had been carrying about 110 passengers and crew. At least 10 children were reported to have been on board.

TV pictures showed soldiers with stretchers trying to evacuate casualties from the scene. Reports say the site is difficult to reach because it is on the edge of a rice field.

"About 15m of the tail is still intact but the body to the front is broken and burnt," said a local official in the district of Magetan.

Witnesses spoke of hearing a large explosion while the plane was still in the air, and then seeing it split apart.

"One of the wings fell off," a local villager was quoted as saying on the Kompas newspaper's website.

"Then the plane nose-dived into the houses."

The location of the crash is near the border of the districts of Madiun and Magetan, about 150km south-west of Indonesia's second-biggest city, Surabaya.

Air force accidents

Indonesia's air force has long complained of being underfunded and handicapped by a US ban on weapons sales, correspondents say. The ban has recently been lifted.

It has suffered a series of accidents, including one involving a Fokker 27 plane that crashed into an airport hangar in western Java last month, killing all 24 aboard.

An Indonesian air force Hercules overshot the runway at Wamena airport in Papua on 10 May. One person was reportedly injured in that incident.

In response, the air force said it would check its Hercules fleet, which is being upgraded with airframe and engine capability improvements.

There have also been a number of commercial airline crashes in Indonesia in recent years which have killed more than 120 people.

In 2007, all Indonesian airlines including national carrier Garuda were banned from the European Union, being deemed unsafe.

Two thoughts occur to me with this article:

- Isn't 110 passengers a bit much for a Hercules? I've been inside that plane on airshows and it didn't strike me as one where you could carry half of that number in any sort of safety or comfort.

- How would a ban on weapon sales have an effect on the safety of cargo planes?

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

- How would a ban on weapon sales have an effect on the safety of cargo planes?

No spare parts, aside from cannibalizing existing aircraft.

[Broomstick]

- Isn't 110 passengers a bit much for a Hercules? I've been inside that plane on airshows and it didn't strike me as one where you could carry half of that number in any sort of safety or comfort.

As long as the weight and balance checks out the "self-loading cargo" can be uncomfortable as hell without compromising flight safety.

What information I could find with a quick Google indicates the initial profile would allow for 92 passengers - keeping in mind the original customer was the US military and Americans tend to be taller and heavier than Indonesians. There are some slightly larger/higher cargo capacity variants - I have no idea which model was involved in this crash. Anyhow, 110 passengers probably does not exceed the lifting capacity of the airplane, just the comfort capacity, particularly if a number of them are children and thus smaller and lighter than adults.

[erik_t]

At least some of Indonesia's C-130s are the -30 stretch, which are about 15ft longer than the standard model. This would account for much or all of the disparity.

[Sea Skimmer]

In one of its last fixed wing flights before oblivion the VNAF managed to get a normal length C-130 off the ground with 452 people onboard and only one pilot on the flight deck. The stretched version is rated for 128 fully equipped troops. Overloading is absurdly unlikely to be a factor.