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Obama, the anti-christ

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http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert ... thers-obam
The fine folks at WorldNetDaily -- the wingnut outfit that was the original source of most of the Birther conspiracy theories, and remains their most ardent defender -- has a new theory it wants to trot out for mainstream consumption:

Barack Obama is actually the anti-Christ. Jesus said so!

An American Christian has produced a brief film for YouTube that connects one statement by Jesus in the Gospel of Luke to President Barack Obama.

His 4-minute video focuses on the direct quote: "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven." (Luke 10:18)

"When I started doing a little research, I found the Greek word for 'lightning' is 'astrape', and the Hebrew equivalent is 'Baraq,'" said YouTube contributor "ppsimmons," a self-described Christian with a theological education and many years in the ministry, who spoke to WND under condition of anonymity out of concern for members of his local church. "I thought that was fascinating."

As he continued looking into the rest of the words in the phrase, he focused on "heaven," and found that it can refer not just to God's dwelling place, but also "the heights" or "high places."

He then recalled Isaiah 14:14, where Lucifer, another name for Satan, is quoted as saying, "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High."

"I wondered what the word 'heights' is," said ppsimmons, "and I looked it up in the dictionary, and it's 'Bamah.'"

Thus, on the video, the announcer notes, "If spoken by a Jewish rabbi today, influenced by the poetry of Isaiah, He (Jesus) would say these words in Hebrew ... 'I saw Satan as Baraq Ubamah.'"

Of course, both the "Christian" and WND then go to some pains to try to claim that they're not suggesting Obama is the anti-Christ. Which is sort of like saying you're not a racist after calling a black person the N-word.

I'm just waiting for Lou Dobbs to trot this one out and start mainstreaming it for public consumption. Or, more likely, Glenn Beck.
Well..... Its obviously quite true. Just look at what Robin Williams says here about Obama name

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When I started doing a little research, I found the Greek word for 'lightning' is 'astrape'
No. It's "keravnos". "Astrape" is only used for cloud lightnings.
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Heh. This reminds me of something I read once (a looooong time ago) wherein a Priest denounced Vikings for using the word "alms" to denote the payment to the person who made their arrows rather than what they gave to the poor at church.

It wasn't that the Vikings stole the word. The two words just happened to sound alike.
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Isn't this slander?
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Only if Obama can prove that he is not, in fact, the Antichrist.

Which could be rather difficult...
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Solauren wrote:Isn't this slander?
Good luck proving slander with American libel & sander laws.
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PainRack wrote:"I wondered what the word 'heights' is," said ppsimmons, "and I looked it up in the dictionary, and it's 'Bamah.'"

Thus, on the video, the announcer notes, "If spoken by a Jewish rabbi today, influenced by the poetry of Isaiah, He (Jesus) would say these words in Hebrew ... 'I saw Satan as Baraq Ubamah.'"
Only if he'd really want to stretch it - barak hapsagot or baraq haraqiya would be more likely, and in any case he's chopping at least one word out of the sentence (at the very least, you should have min - "form" - in between the two words)
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At this point, I'm actually beginning to hope he is the anti-christ.

At least then, these Christians will stop calling every politician in the world who isn't in the American Republican party the anti-christ.

I mean for fuck's sake, four years ago or so I swear I saw discussion on how John Kerry was the anti-christ. I know the head of U.N. is always a top contender for that position. And wasn't there talk of the European Union and whoever holds the top office there? It's friggin annoying.

It's starting to seem like it's not so much fear mongering anymore as wishful thinking.
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Solauren wrote:Isn't this slander?
How is this bad? It means we get to rule the world!
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Solauren wrote:Isn't this slander?
Public figures in general have so much shit and rumour thrown at and about them that the courts practically don't even bother with slander cases in which they're supposedly involved. Political figures in particular can't really be "slandered" on those terms, and such commentary is considered political criticism and therefore protected by the 1st Amendment. During his term, Bill Clinton was called a murderer and worse by the Right Wing Hate Machine almost on a daily basis. I'm sure he was the Antichrist at some point in their spew as well.
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