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According to the news program here this is the second crash with the same pilot. In 2006 he crashed a DHC-2 and 5 passengers were killed. On this last Saturday he crashed a Cessna 206 and killed two, this time coming in for a landing on the water. I wasn't able to find in web sources confirming it was the same guy even though was able to find the crashes they don't mention the pilots name.
Hamburg - Both passengers of an amphibious plane died after their rescue Saturday following an accident in the harbour of the northern German city of Hamburg, rescue officials said.

Rescue authorities were alerted at 12:56 local time, as the plane - a Cessna 206 - was lying upside down in the water in the Elbe River, with the passengers trapped inside.

It was not immediately clear whether the plane had crashed while taking off or landing, or had simply capsized.

Rescue divers managed to pull the two out and immediately began efforts to resuscitate them, officials said. Both were taken to hospital, where the woman (52) died, followed shortly after by her husband (57).

The pilot managed to swim to safety after the accident. He later suffered shock.

The amphibious plane is a popular tourist attraction, taking off and landing from Hamburg's harbour for excursion flights over the city.

It was the second fatal accident involving such an excursion aircraft in Hamburg in recent years. In July 2006, five people were killed when a Beaver DHC-2 plane crashed onto a railroad track shortly after taking off from the harbour.
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In July 2006, five people were killed when a Beaver DHC-2 plane crashed onto a railroad track shortly after taking off from the harbour.
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dragon wrote:they don't mention the pilots name.
And I hope it stays that way. The authorities will find out if it was his fault and will revoke his license if they find him unable to safely do his job. YOU on the other hand have no reason to know who he is, especially since you already convicted him in your mind.
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Skgoa wrote:
dragon wrote:they don't mention the pilots name.
And I hope it stays that way. The authorities will find out if it was his fault and will revoke his license if they find him unable to safely do his job. YOU on the other hand have no reason to know who he is, especially since you already convicted him in your mind.
I certainly don't get that bias from dragon's post. Did I miss something?

In a similar vein, if I read about an automobile accident, they often mention the driver's name, especially if there's a fatality. Is there a difference between the ways that airplane and automobile incidents are (or should be) treated in this regard? What gives a pilot the right to privacy that would not be granted to a driver?
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Which brings up a certain TV-movie that way broadcasted a few weeks ago about the plane collision in 2002 above Lake Constance.
Putting the movie aside, the controller being on duty at the time of the collision was stabbed to death by the the father and husband of three passengers about two years after that accident. After the murderer served a sentence of two years he was released prematurely due to his mental fitness not being sufficiently considered during his process. He was appointed deputy construction minister in North Ossetia only two month after his release.
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SCRawl wrote: What gives a pilot the right to privacy that would not be granted to a driver?
The little fact that it happened in Germany. ;) Even a drunk driver runing 40 children over would (and should!) get the same kind of privacy.
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Skgoa wrote:
dragon wrote:they don't mention the pilots name.
And I hope it stays that way. The authorities will find out if it was his fault and will revoke his license if they find him unable to safely do his job. YOU on the other hand have no reason to know who he is, especially since you already convicted him in your mind.

Where the hell to you get that idea. All I did was post the 2 news article, repeated what the German TV news said and said that I wasn't able to find any collaborating online evidence. Jeesh
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Buritot wrote:Which brings up a certain TV-movie that way broadcasted a few weeks ago about the plane collision in 2002 above Lake Constance.
Putting the movie aside, the controller being on duty at the time of the collision was stabbed to death by the the father and husband of three passengers about two years after that accident. After the murderer served a sentence of two years he was released prematurely due to his mental fitness not being sufficiently considered during his process. He was appointed deputy construction minister in North Ossetia only two month after his release.
To this day the Russian public views him as a hero.
Funnily enough that was the very case I was thinking of when you mentioned about the reason for privacy. That was an unfortunate case that was, as it was not just solely the controllers fault.
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Skgoa wrote:
SCRawl wrote: What gives a pilot the right to privacy that would not be granted to a driver?
The little fact that it happened in Germany. ;) Even a drunk driver running 40 children over would (and should!) get the same kind of privacy.
Well, naturally, I'm more familiar with the way things work in Canada than I am with the way things work in Germany. How would your hypothetical blood-bathed drunk driver's name stay out of the newspapers, though? If we assume that he's tried and convicted of a crime -- and killing people with your car is generally considered to be a crime -- is the record of his trial not in the public record? Or is his name kept from the public until and unless he's convicted? (I'm honestly curious, here, as I have no experience with the way your system works.)
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SCRawl wrote: Or is his name kept from the public until and unless he's convicted? (I'm honestly curious, here, as I have no experience with the way your system works.)
That would be the case.
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