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PSA on Public Option (Funny Or Die)

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Too funny not to post

Of course, hope it hasn't already been posted, but I can't see anywhere where it is, so ....
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Having Donald Faison in that video made it for me. As a massive fan of Scrubs, I couldn't see it as anything other than Dr. Turk giving me his position on health care.
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So Hollywood is a den of Communism; what else is new?


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Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:So Hollywood is a den of Communism; what else is new?


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What I can't wait for is some dumb-arse to use that video to support their argument against healthcare.

"Cuz y'all kin see that Caaal-berT and dem dere udder Hollywood types talkin' bout how dat public option would be baaaaad. Ayup."
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This is hilarious.
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weemadando wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:So Hollywood is a den of Communism; what else is new?


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What I can't wait for is some dumb-arse to use that video to support their argument against healthcare.

"Cuz y'all kin see that Caaal-berT and dem dere udder Hollywood types talkin' bout how dat public option would be baaaaad. Ayup."
I'm all for bashing rednecks, but we don't make fun of gangsta rappers by saying "Youse guys shud kill two boidz wid wun stone, fugeddaboutit".

It's time for identify the mistakes:
1. o -> a / _l is not a southern accent, an exaggerated 'callbert' is spurious and based on a specuous impression of what Southern American English is. Clearly the author of the post above knows that the southerners have different vowel pronunciations, but not exactly what they are, so just picks anything that sounds uneducated and places it.
2. g-drop on -ng verbs is standard in all accents of english, writing it is pointless and superfluous as writing 'keyk' instead of 'cake' in a transcription of an accent. It's clearly meant to be "Look this accent is slangy and uneducated" ignoring that such a feature is standard to almost all englishes.
Go back and look at the Youse Guys sentence- notice how '-dz' on birds is unnecessary, since everyone says it that way? Or that wun is just misspelled even though it sounds the same, to say "Look how uneducated this looks" even though it's identical? This is exactly the same problem.
3. Ayup is a feature not found in Southern US English. It is found independently in Yorkshire and rural varieties of New England English. Its afterthought addition on the end is especially jarring.
4. Arguably, depicting interdental merger is inaccurate, since this is a feature of AAVE and not SAE, which presumably the author is parodying. It is the equivalent of merging cantonese pigins and californian english accents and calling it "Urban Californain Accent". Bizarrely, the author also merges 'th' and 'd' in several locations, but not in 'that Caaaaalbert' even though he does in 'dat public option', which is at best confusing or at worst stupefying.
5. Many subtle phonological changes besides e/i merger before nasals are missed, for instance that type should be something similar 'tahp' (ta:p), and have failed to imitate southern grammar or perform the southern drawl shift on words. Clearly the author is more concerned with "this looks southernish" rather than actual accuracy, the equivalent of making fun of AAVE by search-replacing "ask" with "aks" in an otherwise identical passage.

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I'm pretty sure many people in America do in fact pronounce the -ng in -ing. Most of the people I interact with certainly do, as do most people on the television and radio.

If you're going to make fun of a person's understanding of accents, don't be wrong?
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Grandmaster Jogurt wrote:I'm pretty sure many people in America do in fact pronounce the -ng in -ing. Most of the people I interact with certainly do, as do most people on the television and radio.

If you're going to make fun of a person's understanding of accents, don't be wrong?
Oh please. "G-dropping" (the name is technically inaccurate from a phonological point of view) is 300 years old and widespread across the entire english world. The fact that it's not universal doesn't mean it's not common, and is an accepted standard for numerous dialects. That it's associated with southern accents is a vague archaic memory of it being considered uneducated despite that it's absurdly common. Learn phonological history of the english language before you make anecdotal snark.
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You were saying it was standard across all forms of English, as in so much so that specifically denoting it would be redundant. That's a far cry from "common". And since any time anyone transcribes different variants of pronouncing it, they do so with -in' vs -ing rather than something like -ing vs -ingg, calling someone out because they dared spell out that their speaker was using an n instead of an ng certainly doesn't seem right.
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Grandmaster Jogurt wrote:You were saying it was standard across all forms of English, as in so much so that specifically denoting it would be redundant. That's a far cry from "common". And since any time anyone transcribes different variants of pronouncing it, they do so with -in' vs -ing rather than something like -ing vs -ingg, calling someone out because they dared spell out that their speaker was using an n instead of an ng certainly doesn't seem right.
I like how you assume standard to mean 'universal' instead of 'not substandard'. Further, the rest of your post is a tired red herring. G-Dropping is not synonymous with southern or uneducated, and it's common across all of english. Spelling it out is pointless and stupid, the equivalent of respelling the great vowel shift for no reason other than to mark "THIS IS A DIALECT".
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