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Breaking Story:
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SILVER SPRING, Md. — A gunman with an explosive device strapped to himself has entered the Discovery Communications building in Silver Spring, Md., and may have taken at least one person hostage, police said.

Montgomery County police said there may also be other explosives in the building, but they said they could not confirm reports that one or more shots had been fired.

Law enforcement authorities identified the man as James J. Lee. They told NBC News that he had a long history of protesting at the building. NBC said the man may have posted environmental and population-control demands online.

Discovery Communications reaches about 1.5 billion subscribers in more than 180 countries with the Discovery Channel, TLC, Animal Planet, Science Channel and Planet Green networks.

NBC News reported that employees from the eighth and ninth floors had been evacuated and were now about a block away from the building.

Julienne Gage, who works in the building, told msnbc cable TV that she didn’t hear any shots fired. She described security at the building as including cameras, as well as a receptionist and a security guard at the front entrance.

Roads in the normally busy urban center at the intersection of Colesville Road and Georgia Avenue on the edge of Washington were closed and police cars and emergency vehicles blocked access. Witnesses said SWAT teams and law enforcement from several areas were at the scene.

“It’s pretty chaotic,” Tariq Warner, a photographer for NBC station WRC-TV, said on msnbc. He said a woman ran past him screaming.

Check back for updates on this developing story.
It's on all the major cable news networks, right now.

Protesting environmental issues? This is exactly the wrong way to do it and rather counterproductive.
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It's on all the major cable news networks, right now.

Protesting environmental issues? This is exactly the wrong way to do it and rather counterproductive.
Not exactly out of line with the tactics of past environmental nutters though.
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I'm not sure I understand. Isn't Discovery and some of its affiliates more pro-environment than most other channels that don't give a shit? Why go after a channel that seems (at least with some of its programming) to be on your side? I don't understand.
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The story linked in the OP has just been updated. It seems they know who the hostage taker is.
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SILVER SPRING, Md. — A gunman with a possible explosive device strapped to himself entered the Discovery Communications building in Silver Spring, Md., Wednesday afternoon and was holding an undetermined number of hostages, police said.

Police said they were dealing with an “active hostage situation” at the building but said they would not talk about the nature of the negotiations. No injuries were known, they said, and they would not confirm reports that a shot or shots had been fired.

People on the eighth and ninth floors of the building in the close-in suburb of Washington were safely evacuated, as were children in the Discovery Kids Place day care center, police said, adding that nobody was known to have been injured.

Law enforcement authorities said they were talking to the man, whom they said they believed was James Jay Lee, 43, a longtime protester at the building who was sentenced to six months of supervised probation for disorderly conduct in March 2008.

“The good thing is we have the outside of the building secure, we’re talking with him, and he wants to talk with us,” Montgomery County police Capt. Paul Starks said.

‘The planet does not need humans’
Lee appears to have posted environmental and population-control demands online, saying humans are ruining the planet and that Discovery should develop programs to sound the alarm.

“I want Discovery Communications to broadcast on their channels to the world their new program lineup and I want proof they are doing so. I want the new shows started by asking the public for inventive solution ideas to save the planet and the remaining wildlife on it,” the alleged manifesto reads, adding:"Nothing is more important than saving ... the Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels. The humans? The planet does not need humans.”

At the time of his conviction in March 2008, Lee was identified as being from San Diego. Court records said he was arrested Feb. 21, 2008, on the sixth day of a protest at the Discovery building. Police were called when a crowd that had gathered began growing “unruly” as Lee threw thousands of dollars of cash into the air, some of it still in shrink-wrapped packages, police said at the time. (Lee was found not guilty of littering.)

Lee said he experienced an ‘‘awakening” when he watched former Vice President Al Gore’s environmental documentary ‘‘An Inconvenient Truth.”

Court records show that Lee moved into a homeless shelter after he was released from jail in March 2008. His movements since then could not immediately be determined.

‘Chaotic’ scene described
Julienne Gage, who works in the building, told msnbc TV that she didn’t hear any shots fired. She described security at the building as including cameras, as well as a receptionist and a security guard at the front entrance.

Roads in the normally busy urban center at the intersection of Colesville Road and Georgia Avenue on the edge of Washington were closed and police cars and emergency vehicles blocked access. Witnesses said SWAT teams and law enforcement from several areas were at the scene.

“It’s pretty chaotic,” Tariq Warner, a photographer for NBC station WRC-TV, said on msnbc. He said a woman ran past him screaming.

Discovery Communications reaches about 1.5 billion subscribers in more than 180 countries with the Discovery Channel, TLC, Animal Planet, Science Channel and Planet Green networks.
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CaptJodan wrote:I'm not sure I understand. Isn't Discovery and some of its affiliates more pro-environment than most other channels that don't give a shit? Why go after a channel that seems (at least with some of its programming) to be on your side? I don't understand.
That most likely the point, He knows many environmentalists watch the channel so, one would imagine he would reach a larger audience.
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Huh. I used to work in that building there less than a year ago.

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This is the case of a left-wing nutter who for some reason thinks that animals are more important than humans. Humans that commit genocide, torture, willfully send others into poverty and put their delusions before the lives of others or even their long-term survival.

Come to think of it, I can understand that position.

Still, this is pretty stupid. Then again, we are talking about a homeless man here.

I hope the situation ends without any blood shed.
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Zixinus wrote:This is the case of a left-wing nutter who for some reason thinks that animals are more important than humans. Humans that commit genocide, torture, willfully send others into poverty and put their delusions before the lives of others or even their long-term survival.

Come to think of it, I can understand that position.

Still, this is pretty stupid. Then again, we are talking about a homeless man here.

I hope the situation ends without any blood shed.
I realize it's a popular stereotype, especially among Europeans, but most homeless people in the US are not mentally ill or even necessarily stupid.
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Check out the guy's list of demands. He's mainly worked up about war and population growth;
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Christ. An eco-terrorist suicide bomber? PLease let this fail badly and not inspire..
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http://savetheplanetprotest.yuku.com/directory

He has a Yuku forum. His main website seems to have been taken down.

I've read his 'manifesto'... at least I tried. It's, well it's exactly what you'd expect from a guy who takes hostages in a TV network.
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General Zod wrote:I realize it's a popular stereotype, especially among Europeans, but most homeless people in the US are not mentally ill or even necessarily stupid.
That's because you generally ARE one of those (not always, but often) if you are homeless around here. It's easy to forget that the USA is a third-world shithole in that regard, since it's just so alien.

The guy basically rants "humans are filth, stop them". In other words, he really IS nuts.
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When I first heard this on the radio I was driving around doing errands and thought I'd heard it wrong - nutjob at the Discovery channel? WTF?

Then again, the world IS crazy. I don't know why I still get surprised at stuff. Maybe I'm not jaded yet?

Of course, the more we learn about Mr. Nutter the more this makes sense in s crazy, twisted way. I mean, yeah, I've been saying for years that the root of many of our problems are just too damn many people but I don't go waving guns and explosives around on account of that belief. Nor do I in any way approve of this man's actions.
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General Zod wrote:I realize it's a popular stereotype, especially among Europeans, but most homeless people in the US are not mentally ill or even necessarily stupid.
That's because you generally ARE one of those (not always, but often) if you are homeless around here. It's easy to forget that the USA is a third-world shithole in that regard, since it's just so alien.

The guy basically rants "humans are filth, stop them". In other words, he really IS nuts.
I will also point out that a substantial number of non-crazy homeless people in the US wind up sheltering with families and/or friends. Those who actually live on the streets are more likely to have mental problems than the general population, and for damn sure what mental problems they have are poorly treated, if at all.

Jury's out on whether or not he's mentally ill or just has pathological beliefs. More to come, I'm sure.
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Serafina wrote:
General Zod wrote:I realize it's a popular stereotype, especially among Europeans, but most homeless people in the US are not mentally ill or even necessarily stupid.
That's because you generally ARE one of those (not always, but often) if you are homeless around here. It's easy to forget that the USA is a third-world shithole in that regard, since it's just so alien.

The guy basically rants "humans are filth, stop them". In other words, he really IS nuts.
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If you're done overcompensating for your ignorance on the matter can we get back to the main topic?

This guy's clearly a nutter but the fact that he's homeless is almost completely irrelevant. Just look at all the Greenpeace douchebags that weren't homeless.
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I realize it's a popular stereotype, especially among Europeans, but most homeless people in the US are not mentally ill or even necessarily stupid.
True, but some people are homeless because their mental problems go untreated and thus cannot hold any job. Like in this case. This guy pretty much abandoned all, every and any hope for humanity. Along with his sanity apparently. More of his manifesto:
3. All programs promoting War and the technology behind those must cease. There is no sense in advertising weapons of mass-destruction anymore. Instead, talk about ways to disassemble civilization and concentrate the message in finding SOLUTIONS to solving global military mechanized conflict. Again, solutions solutions instead of just repeating the same old wars with newer weapons. Also, keep out the fraudulent peace movements. They are liars and fakes and had no real intention of ending the wars. ALL OF THEM ARE FAKE! On one hand, they claim they want the wars to end, on the other, they are demanding the human population increase. World War II had 2 Billion humans and after that war, the people decided that tripling the population would assure peace. WTF??? STUPIDITY! MORE HUMANS EQUALS MORE WAR!

4. Civilization must be exposed for the filth it is. That, and all its disgusting religious-cultural roots and greed. Broadcast this message until the pollution in the planet is reversed and the human population goes down! This is your obligation. If you think it isn't, then get hell off the planet! Breathe Oil! It is the moral obligation of everyone living otherwise what good are they??
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Somewhere, somehow, I think that this guy is putting his hopes on a TV channel of all things just shows you more and more of how insane he is.
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It also, from what little I've read, appears that he became homeless after a jail sentence and presumably wasn't so prior to that. This is not an uncommon pattern.

I caution, though, that I do not have all information and may be incorrect about that.
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Umm - i was just trying to explain why europeans often go for "homeless=mental problem". Because that's the situation in europe - you can generally get support that ensures a place to live no matter how fucked you are. Thus, people who are homeless generally do not have to be - they just do not take the support for a number of reasons.

I know that the situation in the USA is different, and i know that in Europe not every homeless person is mentally ill or stupid.
I'm just trying to explain the misconception.
But let's not derail the thread.
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He's been shot and they got the hostages out. No word on his condition and there are other "devices" in the building.

Apparently one of his grievances was that Duggars show on TLC '19 Kids and Counting' as he's afraid of overpopulation and views the show as endorsing such things.
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Serafina wrote:Umm - i was just trying to explain why europeans often go for "homeless=mental problem". Because that's the situation in europe - you can generally get support that ensures a place to live no matter how fucked you are. Thus, people who are homeless generally do not have to be - they just do not take the support for a number of reasons.

I know that the situation in the USA is different, and i know that in Europe not every homeless person is mentally ill or stupid.
I'm just trying to explain the misconception.
But let's not derail the thread.
Except for your "third world shithole" crack, which always comes off as someone who's trying to overcompensate.
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According to MSNBC at least one of his devices detonated.
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Kanastrous wrote:According to MSNBC at least one of his devices detonated.
Not near a TV at the moment.. Detonated by him or the police afterwards?
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Okay...turns out he's dead.

All it says is that one device went off when he was shot. Perhaps he had it set up on a deadman switch.

Well, one less human on the planet. I guess wherever he is now we can hope he's at least deriving some satisfaction from that.
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(Sept. 1) -- Police snipers this afternoon shot dead a gunman carrying a backpack full of possible explosives and freed the three people he had been holding hostage inside the headquarters of the Discovery Channel in Silver Spring, Md., authorities said.

All three hostages were safe, Montgomery County Police Chief Tom Manger said. He initially said police had shot the suspect but he did not know the man's condition. Police later confirmed the gunman was dead.

The suspect, identified by local media outlets as 43-year-old James J. Lee, entered the building around 1 p.m. today, armed with a gun and wearing metal canisters that appeared to be explosive devices, police said.

"We heard three gunshots around 1:20 [p.m.]," a Discovery Channel employee who did not wish to be identified told AOL News.

In this image released by the Montgomery County Police, James J. Lee is seen is a booking mugshot from 2008 on disorderly conduct.
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Police say James J. Lee, shown in a booking mugshot from 2008, is suspected of taking hostages in the Discovery Channel's Silver Spring, Md., headquarters Wednesday.

"Nobody is going anywhere," the gunman said, according to a Discovery Channel worker who got out of the building safely.

The gunman took three people hostage but the rest of the building, including a day care center on the first floor, was evacuated.

"There are approximately ... 1,900 employees that work in the building," Manger told reporters while the hostage situation was still going on. "We believe most of them are out. ... Right now we have ... a small number of hostages that are with him right now. We are in negotiations with him currently [and] those negotiations are ongoing."

As news of the incident spread, the Discovery Channel sent an e-mail to all employees, urging them to leave the building.

"Don't Return to 1DP (One Discovery Place) Until Further Notice," the e-mail read. "Employees at 1DP should go home for the remainder of the day. No employee should return to 1DP for any reason. Employees with cars at 1DP should not return to the office, but instead use an alternate mode of transportation."

Employees on the scene told AOL News they were escorted out of the building by Discovery Channel security guards. One worker said there were "snipers on all the surrounding buildings, armored Humvees, SWAT teams, helicopters and ... lots and lots of cops" on the scene.

Lee reportedly has a history of protesting outside the Discovery Channel building and was arrested in 2008 for disorderly conduct, TMZ reported. He is also reportedly the author of a website, titled savetheplanetprotest.com, that contains a list of demands.

"Stop all shows glorifying human birthing on all your channels and on TLC," reads one of the demands on the site. "Stop Future Weapons shows or replace the dialogue condemning the people behind these developments so that the shows become exposes rather than advertisements of Arms sales and development!"

The website author calls humans "destructive" and "filthy" creatures who are wrecking the planet. The author ends the diatribe with these words: "These are the demands and sayings of Lee."
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Odd. I would have expected him to endorse the weapons-jerkoffery shows. After all, the hardware being pimped represents some of the more effective technology for removing human beings from the world. I guess consistency is not a realistic thing to expect from a guy with head problems.
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