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Two large solar panels jut out of the barren landscape near Imneizil in the Hebron hills. The hi-tech structures sit incongruously alongside the tents and rough stone buildings of the Palestinian village, but they are fundamental to life here: they provide electricity.

Imneizil is not connected to the national electricity grid. Nor are the vast majority of Palestinian communities in Area C, the 62% of the West Bank controlled by Israel. The solar energy has replaced expensive and clunky oil-powered generators.

According to the Israeli authorities, these solar panels – along with six others in nearby villages – are illegal and have been slated for demolition.

Nihad Moor, 25, has three small children. The family live in a two-room tent kitted out with a fridge, TV and very old computer. She also has a small electric butter churn, which she uses to supplement her husband's small income from sheep farming.

"The kids get sick all the time. At the moment, because of a change in the weather, they all have colds. Without electricity I wouldn't even be able to see to help them when they need to use the [outdoor] toilet at night," Moor says. "I don't want to imagine what life would be like here if [the panels] were demolished."

Imneizil's solar system was built in 2009 by the Spanish NGO Seba at a cost of €30,000 to the Spanish government. According to the Israeli authorities, it was built without a permit.

Guy Inbar, a spokesperson for the Israeli authorities in the West Bank, explains: "International aid is an important component in improving and promoting the quality of life of the Palestinian population but this does not grant immunity for illegal or unco-ordinated activity."

The problem for Palestinian communities here is that permission to build any infrastructure is very hard to come by. According to figures from the civil administration quoted by the pressure group Peace Now, 91 permits were issued for Palestinian construction in Area C between 2001 and 2007. In the same period, more than 10,000 Israeli settlement units were built and1,663 Palestinian structures demolished.

The Jewish settlements in Area C are connected to the national water and electricity grids. But most Palestinian villages are cut off from basic infrastructure, including water and sewage services. Imneizil, which borders the ultra-religious settlement of Beit Yatir, currently has nine demolition orders on various structures, including a toilet block and water cistern for the school.

Comet ME is an Israeli NGO trying to circumvent these crippling restrictions on Palestinian development by harnessing Hebron's abundant natural energy sources – wind and sun.

Funded largely by the German government, the organisation has already provided tens of Palestinian villages with electricity through solar panels and wind turbines. Its goal is to reach all villages in the southern Hebron area by the end of 2013.

"In technical terms it's do-able, but it depends on Israeli policies," says Elad Orian, Comet ME's founder. "Power is a human right, like housing and education," he says. "We deal with providing basic energy services. Renewable energy provides the best route to do it."

The green energy solution has its flaws. At a cost of around $4,500 per family, it is expensive. Nor does it generate enough electricity to sustain a community. But it has offered a lifeline to the 150,000 Palestinians living in Area C's impoverished communities.

However, it will become increasingly difficult to convince donors that alternative energy is worth investing in if the expensive technology they are funding is destroyed. After the order issued against the Imneizil solar panels in September, six alternative energy systems built by Comet ME in Hebron have received demolition orders.

A legal fight waged by Rabbis for Human Rights has succeeded in suspending, but not lifting, the demolition of Imneizil's panels. The German foreign office has launched an intense diplomatic effort to save the others in nearby villages.

One UN expert, speaking anonymously as they are not authorised to talk to the media, believes the crackdown on the alternative energy movement by the Israelis is part of a deliberate strategy in Area C. "From December 2010 to April 2011, we saw a systematic targeting of the water infrastructure in Hebron, Bethlehem and the Jordan valley," the source said. "Now, in the last couple of months, they are targeting electricity. Two villages in the area have had their electrical poles demolished.

"There is this systematic effort by the civil administration targeting all Palestinian infrastructure in Hebron. They are hoping that by making it miserable enough, they [the Palestinians] will pick up and leave."

According to UN research, that is happening. Ten out of 13 Palestinian communities living in Area C surveyed by the Office for the Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs in 2011 reported that families had already left their land as a result of Israeli policies. Ali Mohamed Hraizat, 49, head of Imneizil's village council, fears that if the solar panels are destroyed, his community will see an exodus.

"We've been here since 1948. We try to stay and maintain our lives, but people will leave if the electricity is cut off," he says. "They are used for light for their children to study by and for televisions. They will move into town. The solar panel isn't doing any harm … I just don't see the point in demolishing it."

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This is bullshit. If a solar panel is a 'structure,' then so is most any solid object that can be propped upright.
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It's really weird: every time you think Israel has reached rock bottom, they manage to get even more evil.
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Well, yeah, Kanastrous. I imagine that's the point, that any improvements that the Palestineans put up can be declared an unauthorized structure and demolished by the Israeli government.
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Persistent poverty allows Israel to use paternalistic racism to justify their continued presence or at least argue against Palestinian self-rule- after all, if Palestinians want to have their own country, then why aren't they rich? Of course, this sort of issue requires large-scale pattern recognition and venturing into the realm of attacking Israeli policy as racist, so it's difficult for American media to cover and refute. Then, too, petty revenge against Palestinians as a whole probably plays a part in this, though in the end it's likely only a secondary factor at best.
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What else does one expect from a nation whose policies toward the Palestinian territories can be summed up as slow motion ethnic cleansing? This is completely consistent with the policy goals of Benjamin Netanyahoo and Avigdor Lebensraum.
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"Avigdor Lebensraum" - that's good.
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Not that I doubt that its being destroyed for unethical reasons, but at least most places in the US you’d need a license to install solar panels professionally, and a permit to build them as permanent freestanding structure as you need for any structure, claiming something that size is not a structure is absurd. California in fact requires a permit for all projects. So lets not go inventing extra reasons to bitch when a perfectly clear one exists anyway.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:Not that I doubt that its being destroyed for unethical reasons, but at least most places in the US you’d need a license to install solar panels professionally, and a permit to build them as permanent freestanding structure as you need for any structure, claiming something that size is not a structure is absurd. California in fact requires a permit for all projects. So lets not go inventing extra reasons to bitch when a perfectly clear one exists anyway.
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Something tells me that California might not be systematically destroying all the infrastructure that these panels are being used to replace.

Saying "Well they should have got a permit." when they've got no power is a little bit daft in my opinion.
Especially when only 91 permits were issued in total over 6 years.

If nothing else it's serious abuse of power / the bureaucracy to rid the Israeli's of "undesirables".
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fordlltwm wrote:If nothing else it's serious abuse of power / the bureaucracy to rid the Israeli's of "undesirables".
Not necessarily. If it's anything like how planning permission tends to be granted for large projects over here in the UK, they're probably just narked off that the NGO that built it couldn't or wouldn't donate a few grand towards this or that local government official's pet project and/or enable them to skim a bit off the top of whatever extra revenue it brings in. Well, that and the power to make other people's lives miserable on a whim is about the only fringe benefit of a job in town and country planning.
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In fact, when my eyes glanced over the headline of this topic, I did not have any idea about this story, having not heard anything about it before. My first thought to cross my mind was; Gee I am sure that panel will be around for all of five seconds until the Israelis invent some bull-shit reason to tear it apart. Then I clicked the post. Surprise... The slow-motion deportation goes on.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:Not that I doubt that its being destroyed for unethical reasons, but at least most places in the US you’d need a license to install solar panels professionally, and a permit to build them as permanent freestanding structure as you need for any structure, claiming something that size is not a structure is absurd. California in fact requires a permit for all projects. So lets not go inventing extra reasons to bitch when a perfectly clear one exists anyway.
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There's being lawful, and there's being lawful stupid/evil :?

And actually, there was similar story in our newspapers recently about water cisterns repaired by PAH (Polish Humanitarian Action, NGO) being demolished as 'illegal repair'.

Despite said cisterns being several hundred years old in some cases.

And actual damage to them being from Israeli bulldozers/bombings.

I kind of wonder, does California bomb illegal property with F-16s, or is there a way to, I don't know, legalize it for a fee?
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Israel doesn't get the benefit of the doubt for stupidity/incompetence in this regard. It's preplanned malice all the way through.
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Israel MIGHT have the legal right to do this, but they certainly don't have the moral right to do this.

And the situation is in no way comparable to illegal structures in California (or any other first-world area). If you build electricity/water-infrastructure in a first-world nation, you do it for profit, not for survival - because you already have access to plenty of electricity and water from either the government or private corporations. Thus, by denying you your own personal infrastructure, the government doesn't deny you access to electricity/water - they just deny you the convenience/profit that would result from owning the infrastructure yourself.
Israel DOES deny the Palestinians in question access to electricity/water with those actions.

So, as i said, those situations are not remotely comparable. A government doesn't have any moral right to deny it's populace* access to electricity, water or other basic infrastructure - it does in fact have a moral (and probably legal) obligation to provide them if necessary. Israel fails on both accounts.


*My choice of words here is deliberate - populace encompasses more than just citizens: everyone living in territory claimed by you, starting with tourists and ending with occupied territories.
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How evil the Israelis are acting does not change the fact that Kanastrous was attempting to argue that they don't even count as a structures regulated by law, which is ludicrous and my point. No need to invent new reasons to complain.
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^ I'll agree to Skimmer's point, regarding that. Since we're going with the most literal use of the word, well, yes, it's objects propped upright, and therefore a structure.
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Its also making enough power to kill someone by electrocution, would you really want installations like that to be unregulated on a national basis? Illegal construction is subject to demolition just about anywhere. As for stuff being old, it doesn't matter. Structural repairs need permits too, and actually this can include some pretty trivial stuff. Like in the US, want to replace deck boards on an out door deck? You need a permit for that in most municipalities. Governments get tremendous power, and lots of 'fee' revenue out of this kind of stuff. Israel is certainly abusing it, but you really wouldn't want to live in a place which simply lacks a functional permitting, licensing and inspection system givne the choice. That's how you get illegal chemical refineries and hundreds schools that pancake in earthquakes, as in China.
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so they are saying any humanitarian stuff is illegal unless it's for theie settlers?
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Sea Skimmer wrote:Governments get tremendous power, and lots of 'fee' revenue out of this kind of stuff. Israel is certainly abusing it, but you really wouldn't want to live in a place which simply lacks a functional permitting, licensing and inspection system givne the choice.
What functonal permitting, licensing and inspection system does Israel provide? It seems the choice is between "self-regulated electricity and water" and "no electricity and water". No surprise what I would choose because cisterns that have run perfectly well for hundreds, maybe even thousands of years are not suddenly going to turn into things that are more dangerous than having no water.
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Thanas wrote: What functonal permitting, licensing and inspection system does Israel provide? It seems the choice is between "self-regulated electricity and water" and "no electricity and water". No surprise what I would choose because cisterns that have run perfectly well for hundreds, maybe even thousands of years are not suddenly going to turn into things that are more dangerous than having no water.
Actually the Israelis offered to hook up large areas of the west bank into power and water systems in years past; nobody took them up on it because they don't want to pay utilities fees to the Israelis. The way the ground water is being depleted and polluted and turning salty they may have have no choice in the long run. Even if you went back to the 1967 borders and took all the settlements out of the west bank, the ground water all still flows downhill into Israel by nature, and Israeli controls access to ocean water for desalination.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:Its also making enough power to kill someone by electrocution, would you really want installations like that to be unregulated on a national basis?
If I were an Israeli regulator, and the potentially-deadly devices were in the Palestinian Territories? I don't know. Maybe. I suspect that there might at least be the temptation to turn a blind eye.
Sea Skimmer wrote:Actually the Israelis offered to hook up large areas of the west bank into power and water systems in years past; nobody took them up on it because they don't want to pay utilities fees to the Israelis.
Perhaps they also disliked the idea of the Israelis being able to turn their water and power on and of at-will. I have never heard of the Israelis actually -doing- that, in areas where they supply utilities to Palestinians, but from the Palestinian side I wouldn't be surprised if the idea had some resonance.
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Kanastrous wrote:Perhaps they also disliked the idea of the Israelis being able to turn their water and power on and of at-will. I have never heard of the Israelis actually -doing- that, in areas where they supply utilities to Palestinians, but from the Palestinian side I wouldn't be surprised if the idea had some resonance.
Or, perhaps more likely, they could simply jack the prices up to extortionate levels.
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Or both whenever they feel like it. It is not as if the Israelis are not expert in shenanigans related to Palaestinians.
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In fact, one thing I don't recall ever having heard of, is Israel playing games with water and power supplies. Certainly not to say it hasn't happened, and if I were planning a raid into a given neighborhood cutting power might be a first step...just that I'm not finding reference to it (they -threatened- to do it in 2011, but so far as I can find, in the end they didn't).
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Kanastrous wrote:In fact, one thing I don't recall ever having heard of, is Israel playing games with water and power supplies. Certainly not to say it hasn't happened, and if I were planning a raid into a given neighborhood cutting power might be a first step...just that I'm not finding reference to it (they -threatened- to do it in 2011, but so far as I can find, in the end they didn't).
What? As I recall it they absolutely forbid the Palestinians to do a lot of things such as drilling for water. Maybe I'm misremembering though.
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There's a *connection* between "we won't let you drill a well" and "we control your water supply and will turn it off now" but the two are not one and the same thing.

Maybe I should clarify the by 'playing games' I meant the Israelis using the on-off switch on the water and power -they provide- as leverage, when they want it.
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