N&P bias towards posted topics

[Sea Skimmer]

A teenager in China killed eight people and wounded five with a knife the other week, first his girlfriends parents and then random strangers as he fled, and nobody thought that worth posting. I love the standards of what is news. No guns, who cares?

[weemadando]

No, that would be the "No white people, media doesn't care" factor.

[Flagg]

No, that would be the "No white people, media doesn't care" factor.

That and we're not exactly brimming with Chinese members.

[Lonestar]

That and we're not exactly brimming with Chinese members.

Lusy is pretty vocal about it.


Also, OP, A&M is in College Station and it occured off campus. I was actually talking to my (Texan)Grandmother on the phone today and she said it happened in my uncles old neighborhood. The local media in Fort Worth is apperently calling it a domestic disturbance.

[General Zod]

A teenager in China killed eight people and wounded five with a knife the other week, first his girlfriends parents and then random strangers as he fled, and nobody thought that worth posting. I love the standards of what is news. No guns, who cares?

Because we're supposed to read every single news story about every single place in the world, right? Why not post it yourself instead of getting your panties in a twist?

[Lonestar]

Because it's an interesting commentary on what N&P culture prioritizes.

I saw the same story Skimmer did on another forum, but didn't post it here out of morbid curiosity as to when or if someone else would. Was not surprised. Bit disappointed, but not surprised.

I doubt me and Skimmer were the only two who saw or heard the story.

[Jub]

I'm not the type to post news stories because I rarely go looking for them beyond my local area. However it seems logical the stories about a region more of us live in, or about things we care about would get posted here.

[General Zod]

Because it's an interesting commentary on what N&P culture prioritizes.

I saw the same story Skimmer did on another forum, but didn't post it here out of morbid curiosity as to when or if someone else would. Was not surprised. Bit disappointed, but not surprised.

I doubt me and Skimmer were the only two who saw or heard the story.

It's only interesting if you think it has any sort of basis in fact at all.

I see a lot of stories that I won't bother posting because there's nothing really contentious worth talking about at all. Who wants 10 pages of people nodding their heads agreeing that the killer was a bad man?

[Dark Hellion]

Because it's an interesting commentary on what N&P culture prioritizes.

I saw the same story Skimmer did on another forum, but didn't post it here out of morbid curiosity as to when or if someone else would. Was not surprised. Bit disappointed, but not surprised.

I doubt me and Skimmer were the only two who saw or heard the story.

It's only interesting if you think it has any sort of basis in fact at all.

I see a lot of stories that I won't bother posting because there's nothing really contentious worth talking about at all. Who wants 10 pages of people nodding their heads agreeing that the killer was a bad man?

Couldn't the same thing be said about this news story Zod?

[Lonestar]

It's only interesting if you think it has any sort of basis in fact at all.

I see a lot of stories that I won't bother posting because there's nothing really contentious worth talking about at all. Who wants 10 pages of people nodding their heads agreeing that the killer was a bad man?

Who wants ten pages of people agreeing guns are bad m'kay?


I already know the answer to that.

[General Zod]

It's only interesting if you think it has any sort of basis in fact at all.

I see a lot of stories that I won't bother posting because there's nothing really contentious worth talking about at all. Who wants 10 pages of people nodding their heads agreeing that the killer was a bad man?

Who wants ten pages of people agreeing guns are bad m'kay?


I already know the answer to that.

In other words what you're really upset over is that people are posting about topics you don't like?

[General Zod]

Because it's an interesting commentary on what N&P culture prioritizes.

I saw the same story Skimmer did on another forum, but didn't post it here out of morbid curiosity as to when or if someone else would. Was not surprised. Bit disappointed, but not surprised.

I doubt me and Skimmer were the only two who saw or heard the story.

It's only interesting if you think it has any sort of basis in fact at all.

I see a lot of stories that I won't bother posting because there's nothing really contentious worth talking about at all. Who wants 10 pages of people nodding their heads agreeing that the killer was a bad man?

Couldn't the same thing be said about this news story Zod?

Ask the guy that posted it.

[Dark Hellion]

It's only interesting if you think it has any sort of basis in fact at all.

I see a lot of stories that I won't bother posting because there's nothing really contentious worth talking about at all. Who wants 10 pages of people nodding their heads agreeing that the killer was a bad man?

Who wants ten pages of people agreeing guns are bad m'kay?


I already know the answer to that.

In other words what you're really upset over is that people are posting about topics you don't like?

If you actually read what they are saying instead of strawmanning their positions you would see that they have a point Zod. The usual MO of these kinds of threads is: person posts about some American gun crime, someone makes snide comment about violent Americans, someone makes post about how if guns didn't exist this wouldn't have happened, a bunch of people post to nod head, thread dies.

Now Jub and me actually had an interesting conversation about this topic because instead of worn out arguments and jumping to insulting each other we actually had a discussion. And from this discussion I don't generally disagree with many of Jub sentiments and think that our disagreements come from a more fundamental disagreement about the roles of government freedoms and their relations to society. And interestingly I don't think I can say that he is definitely wrong because some of our disagreements are axiomatic and others are about very complex philosophical ideas that don't have absolute answers.

Wait a second, I think this may actually be the first time that a gun control topic on this board has had two sides politely discuss their points of view and respectfully disagree. Cool.

[Lonestar]

In other words what you're really upset over is that people are posting about topics you don't like?

Sure thing scarecrow.

[Flagg]

In other words what you're really upset over is that people are posting about topics you don't like?

Sure thing scarecrow.

Nice admission of trolling, dumbass.

[General Zod]

If you actually read what they are saying instead of strawmanning their positions you would see that they have a point Zod. The usual MO of these kinds of threads is: person posts about some American gun crime, someone makes snide comment about violent Americans, someone makes post about how if guns didn't exist this wouldn't have happened, a bunch of people post to nod head, thread dies.

Again . . . so what? Nobody's forcing them to click the topic.

[Lonestar]

Nice admission of trolling, dumbass.

The scarecrow is made of straw. HE WAS MAKING A STRAWMAN DUMBASS. How the fuck you get "admission of trolling" from that is beyond me.

[Flagg]

Nice admission of trolling, dumbass.

The scarecrow is made of straw. HE WAS MAKING A STRAWMAN DUMBASS. How the fuck you get "admission of trolling" from that is beyond me.

You just said "sure thing" to a guy who accused you of shitting up a thread you don't like. You're trolling. I mean it's hilarious how insecure you are in your penis size gun rights that you cannot allow a conversation about gun control in the third mass shooting in the American flyover states in less than a month, don't get me wrong.

[Lonestar]

Again . . . so what? Nobody's forcing them to click the topic.

I love how you're essentially admitting that you have no problem with casual hypocrisy in N&P. And hey, that's fine, I engage in that all the time. Skimmer commented that horrible crimes occur that somehow, someway, don't make it to a N&P posting but if a firearm is involved they do. You went on to say "we don't need 10 pages of people nodding 'yup criminals are bad'" even though you basically described most gun threads in N&P.

At least be honest about your casual hypocrisy.

No one is forcing us to click on the topic, true, so...we aren't allowed to make commentary on what N&P culture is? Baloney.

You just said "sure thing" to a guy who accused you of shitting up a thread you don't like. You're trolling. I mean it's hilarious how insecure you are in your penis size gun rights that you cannot allow a conversation about gun control in the third mass shooting in the American flyover states in less than a month, don't get me wrong.

Holy Christ are you dumb, but I guess I should expect that from someone who thinks that East-Central Texas is "The Midwest".

He said:

In other words what you're really upset over is that people are posting about topics you don't like?

I'm not sure how you got "shitting up a thread" from this. I think you and I also have very different definitions of trolling, since yours seems to be "dares goes against groupthink" whereas mine is, well, trolling for reactions.

[General Zod]

I love how you're essentially admitting that you have no problem with casual hypocrisy in N&P. And hey, that's fine, I engage in that all the time. Skimmer commented that horrible crimes occur that somehow, someway, don't make it to a N&P posting but if a firearm is involved they do. You went on to say "we don't need 10 pages of people nodding 'yup criminals are bad'" even though you basically described most gun threads in N&P.

So do you plan on shitting up every single gun thread that crops up in the future so you can get up on your soapbox or is it just this one? I'd like to know before I decide to post anything in advance.

[Jub]

Not to be too off topic, but is it safe to say that with most topics in N&P that they either become a circle jerk or a clusterfuck?

[Lonestar]

So do you plan on shitting up every single gun thread that crops up in the future so you can get up on your soapbox or is it just this one? I'd like to know before I decide to post anything in advance.

Dude, how many gun threads have I "shitted up" in the past?

This is a serious question. You and Flagg seem to be interpreting me pointing out casual hypocrisy in the N&P groupthink with OMFG RAGING GUN NUT.

Hell, how many gun threads, anywhere on the board have I participated in a positive or negative way? Am I posting "Hey hey look at my Mossberg and Glock" threads in A&P? Am I hitting every mass shooting thread and "shitting them up" as "penis compensation" for gun rights? Or am I just standing out because I pointed out the casual hypocrisy that pervades N&P culture even though I didn't say anyting about guns rights one way or the other in this one thread?

[General Zod]

Hell, how many gun threads, anywhere on the board have I participated in a positive or negative way? Am I posting "Hey hey look at my Mossberg and Glock" threads in A&P? Am I hitting every mass shooting thread and "shitting them up" as "penis compensation" for gun rights? Or am I just standing out because I pointed out the casual hypocrisy that pervades N&P culture even though I didn't say anyting about guns rights one way or the other in this one thread?

Your complaint is that nobody was posting anything but gun stuff. So why not start posting non gun stuff instead of whining that nobody else is posting it?

[Dark Hellion]

Hell, how many gun threads, anywhere on the board have I participated in a positive or negative way? Am I posting "Hey hey look at my Mossberg and Glock" threads in A&P? Am I hitting every mass shooting thread and "shitting them up" as "penis compensation" for gun rights? Or am I just standing out because I pointed out the casual hypocrisy that pervades N&P culture even though I didn't say anyting about guns rights one way or the other in this one thread?

Your complaint is that nobody was posting anything but gun stuff. So why not start posting non gun stuff instead of whining that nobody else is posting it?

I think his complaint has much more to do with the fact that the big name N&P posters didn't post anything of substance while Jub and me were the only two having a real discussion about the issues involved here instead of the usual circle-jerk bullshit these threads are.

[General Zod]

Hell, how many gun threads, anywhere on the board have I participated in a positive or negative way? Am I posting "Hey hey look at my Mossberg and Glock" threads in A&P? Am I hitting every mass shooting thread and "shitting them up" as "penis compensation" for gun rights? Or am I just standing out because I pointed out the casual hypocrisy that pervades N&P culture even though I didn't say anyting about guns rights one way or the other in this one thread?

Your complaint is that nobody was posting anything but gun stuff. So why not start posting non gun stuff instead of whining that nobody else is posting it?

I think his complaint has much more to do with the fact that the big name N&P posters didn't post anything of substance while Jub and me were the only two having a real discussion about the issues involved here instead of the usual circle-jerk bullshit these threads are.

Why not let him make his own arguments?