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As a California resident, this article caught my attention. Not saying that Mr. Perry has any teeth behind his statement, but it does bring to mind what I read about Texas and several states in the South are growing significantly economically and in population. If I correctly assume, Texas is already one of the "big" states in these regards, and is only expected to keep growing for years to come.

Anyways, not sure how many California residents there are here, but I recall Texas and Mr. Perry get talked about quite a bit on this forum, so hoping to hear what you guys might have to say about his pride in Texas as a growing economic engine, a pride big enough that he thinks California, a state that would be the world's eight largest economy if a sovereign nation (Business Week, 2 December, 2010) is already being eclipsed.

The article includes a graph comparing Silicon Valley to Dallas.

What was more odd to me: a commenter saying:
Silly and immature commets won't undo the fact that CA was ranked 50th in the worse states to own a business in. Got that? Dead last (in spite of Obama's assertion there are 57). Perry is right, and CA is on a steep decline to 3rd world status.
I mentioned the Measure of America project giving a different portrait of California, one of comparatively high marks for opportunity and well being. Wonder if I am more incorrect than this commenter. Should open my eyes since I have not been to much of California.
San Bernardino County Sun wrote:Texas Gov. Rick Perry: 'California is looking at our backside'

By Mike Rosenberg

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Posted: 02/11/2013 01:13:30 PM PST

SAN FRANCISCO -- Declaring that his conservative state had knocked California off its perch as the nation's business leader, Texas Gov. Rick Perry on Monday bragged that the Golden State is now "looking at our backside."

A year after his failed presidential bid, Perry returned to the West Coast on Friday for visits to San Francisco, Silicon Valley and Los Angeles in an attempt to lure businesses to Texas following a statewide ad campaign last week. It's part of a push by low-tax states to entice California millionaires hit by recent tax hikes that have the state's wealthiest stomaching the highest income tax rate in the nation.

In a wide-ranging interview with this newspaper, the Republican politician fired return shots at California Gov. Jerry Brown, said his state capital of Austin is poised to become the "next Silicon Valley" and characterized California as a great state that has lost its way.

"Some time in the past, California became uncompetitive with other states because of their tax (and) regulatory policies in particular," said Perry, wearing a red tie, dress shirt, slacks and sneakers in a downtown San Francisco hotel room.

Perry did not disclose the names of the businesses he was meeting with and will not hold public events, but he was more than eager to pump up what he described as the Lone Star State's best qualities for business: low taxes, few regulations and lenient labor laws, which he said California lacks.

"Twelve years ago, California wasn't looking over its shoulder," he said. "They're not looking over their shoulder now -- they're looking at our backside."
At 6.1 percent, Texas has a lower unemployment rate than California's 9.8 percent jobless rate, and several California companies such as Apple (AAPL), Facebook, eBay (EBAY), Visa and Chevron have chosen recently to expand or relocate offices to Texas, largely for economic reasons. But the Golden State is still leading the way in many other key areas.

Compared to Texas, California has a 3-to-2 edge in the number of companies, a higher percentage of residents with college degrees, a 21 percent higher median household income, a smaller portion of residents in poverty and median home values that are three times higher.

Perhaps most important, the Bay Area had $2.5 billion in venture capital funding in the fourth quarter of last year -- 12 times as much as the entire state of Texas.
"Silicon Valley has that quiet confidence. It's knowing you're No. 1 so you don't have to brag about it," said Carl Guardino, CEO of the Silicon Valley Leadership Group. "It doesn't take going out and trying to lure the scrappy startups or established enterprises to come here. They do that on their own."

After Perry last week launched 30-second radio ads in California in which he characterized the Golden State as a nearly impossible place to do business, Brown dismissed the campaign as "barely a fart," since the airtime was worth only $24,000.

"It was colorful," Perry said. "It was awesome. He got a lot of coverage. He helped the effort."

Perry also lambasted Brown's signature effort -- November's Proposition 30 tax increase, which helped balance California's battered general-fund budget -- and said Californians would come to regret passing the measure when they have less money left over.

The Texas governor emphasized that he liked California and its history -- he vacations here and visited during his run for the GOP nomination for president, he said -- but that the state was headed in the wrong direction because of what he described as a pro-tax, anti-corporate culture that has made the state's business climate "abysmal."

Brown's spokesman, Gil Duran, noted in an email Monday that "last year, Texas Instruments invested $2 million in an electronic design lab at UC Berkeley. Dell -- another Texas company -- expanded its operations in Silicon Valley. Samsung is building a cutting-edge research and development facility in San Jose, not San Antonio."

Duran added: "We hope Gov. Perry enjoys his visit to the Golden State."
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Wait, in a play to get California business to go to Texas, he said California sucks for business? I am shocked, shocked I say. :D
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So... Rick Perry says random, illogical nonsense. Nobody cares. News at 11? Not sure how the tech capital of the hemisphere is 'uncompetitive'.
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I was under the impression that CA was bulldozed by a Republican, you know, one of Perry's party. But whatever.
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Arnold wasn't totally psychotic, so he generally gets called a RINO by the rank and file.
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So Perry is trolling California? Pandering for votes. It has to be that.
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Arnold also didn't do that bad of a job and you have to remember the state the state was in when he came in in 2003. There was already a recall vote that passed before he even said he was running. The state had already slipped IIRC from 5th in the world economy wise to like 8 I think.

That last part says more I think as well about Texas's current status. I don't think it's that they gained so much as we slipped in the last decade from 5th to 11th in WWGDP.
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If California were really so far behind Texas in business climate, Gov. Perry wouldn't be making trips to CA to try to seduce businesses to move away. The tech climate in the Bay Area is climbing (spiking, if anything), not diminishing. Entertainment industries are still huge in SoCal.
Havok wrote:That last part says more I think as well about Texas's current status. I don't think it's that they gained so much as we slipped in the last decade from 5th to 11th in WWGDP.
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Huh. Yeah. I looked at something yesterday that pegged us at 11.
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Imagine if we legalized pot. Northern Cali would be a booming industry. :lol:
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More likely, after the price completely collapses, production would be taken over Philip Morris employing barracks housed migrant labor to produce 100lb compacted bails of untrimmed bud that sell for eight dollars at Walmart, while fertilizer runoff damages local water supplies.
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Yeah, like I said, booming industry.
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For a handful of corporations that would find every loophole to pay no taxes, sure.
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Well sure, that's why Colorado has exactly the situation you described, except not really.
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So.... Doesn't this ultimately not affect the US, or even Texas standing at all? Since its still just internal migration and business moving around? Instead of you know, more jobs being created?
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Losonti Tokash wrote:Well sure, that's why Colorado has exactly the situation you described, except not really.
The regulations to allow growing aren't even written yet in Colorado last I heard, so nobody can start selling up shell corporations to takeover, yet. I believe they have 180 days since the ballot passed to write them.
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Havok wrote:Imagine if we legalized pot. Northern Cali would be a booming industry. :lol:
Everybody would just grow their own with the independent supplies of seeds. Only the really good shit would command a price anymore.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
Losonti Tokash wrote:Well sure, that's why Colorado has exactly the situation you described, except not really.
The regulations to allow growing aren't even written yet in Colorado last I heard, so nobody can start selling up shell corporations to takeover, yet. I believe they have 180 days since the ballot passed to write them.
For the "real" legalization of Amendment 64 that is the case, yes, but the de facto situation on the ground here for the past four years is that just about anybody can already buy it over the counter if they want to, and some large companies (mostly here and in California) are already in on the growing end. While my initial prediction was almost identical to the one you make above, the market has actually shifted to provide higher quality product at the price point that the consumer was accustomed to instead, and consumer standards have risen to meet it. I haven't even seen compressed scwag in literal years.

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