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Women sad, angry over sale of nonprofit Ohio home

CINCINNATI (AP) — For more than 100 years, the Anna Louise Inn in downtown Cincinnati has been a safe, serene place that thousands of struggling women came to know as home. But after losing a two-year fight with a Fortune 500 company determined to buy their beautiful, 104-year-old property and turn it into a boutique hotel — even though it wasn't for sale — the women of the Anna Louise Inn have to leave the neighborhood.

While most of the 60 women living there are relieved that the fight with Western & Southern Insurance Group appears over, they can't help but also feel sad and angry.

"I'm upset with them that they would be that greedy to take away what's been here for so long for women," said Robin Howard, 55, who has lived at the Anna Louise for more than two years after fleeing an abusive relationship. "We have rights, too. This is home. It's a safe haven."

For Wendy Gonzales, 25, the Anna Louise has allowed her to escape an addiction to methamphetamine and an abusive husband who she said forced her into prostitution.

"I thank God for the Anna Louise Inn. Without it, I don't know where I would be," said Gonzales, who now works as a housekeeper at a hotel within walking distance. "It's quiet, it's peaceful. Looking out here, you don't see your average thugs walking down the street. ... It's just nice to walk out and know that you're safe."

The Anna Louise has been housing women since 1909 in the same charming, dormitory-style building that looks like a plantation home. Although it began by helping young, ambitious types who were pouring into then-booming Cincinnati, it later became geared toward women who needed a fresh start; some have left abusive husbands, others are transitioning from foster care to adulthood while others are recovering prostitutes and drug addicts.

The historic downtown Cincinnati neighborhood where the women live, known as Lytle Park, became an important part of their recovery, since most were coming from dangerous parts of the city where it'd be easier to slip back into their former ways of life.

Western & Southern executives, whose headquarters sit across a park from the Anna Louise, offered to buy the Anna Louise for $1.8 million several years ago, less than half its value. The Anna Louise declined and won $12.6 million in federal and state tax credits to renovate the home, where some rooms are smaller than 100 square feet and all the women have to share bathrooms and one kitchen.

Days before the renovation was to begin, Western & Southern sued over a zoning issue and a judge ordered an immediate construction halt until the legal fight was resolved. The Anna Louise and its supporters didn't back down, vowing to fight Western & Southern with everything they had — until last week when they inked a deal with the company to sell the home for $4 million.

Leaders at Cincinnati Union Bethel, the nonprofit that runs the Anna Louise, said they sold reluctantly because they couldn't afford to fight any longer.

Under the deal with Western & Southern, the women living at the Anna Louise will stay there until a new building for them is finished, in about two years. It will be located in a shabby neighborhood on a busy street 2 miles north of where they are now. The nearest park is a 1.5-mile walk away, over a freeway.

"Western & Southern had the money to fight and the Anna Louise Inn didn't," said Howard, who is about to receive a degree in social work, which she wants to use to help women flee abusive relationships. "When you have that much money and you want something, eventually you're going to get it."

The Anna Louise will now be among a bevy of properties in the neighborhood owned by Western & Southern, which developed Cincinnati's tallest building in 2011 and has renovated a handful of historic properties in the area, including an upscale hotel.

Company CEO John Barrett has long said it was time for the women at the Anna Louise to leave the neighborhood to make way for economic development. He plans to turn the building into a boutique hotel and envisions transforming the neighborhood into a hub of activity with restaurants and bars.

"This truly is a win for everyone and will make Lytle Park a destination like no other," Barrett said in a Monday news release announcing the Anna Louise sale.


Barrett, who has repeatedly declined requests for an interview, has become a loathed figure at the Anna Louise, not only for his tireless efforts to acquire the property but also for the way he has talked about the women living there, repeatedly referring to them as recovering prostitutes and saying they just don't belong in the neighborhood.

"That hurt. To be categorized," said Sherene Julian, 48, who escaped decades of drug addiction and prostitution when she moved to the Anna Louise. "It made me feel that I was lesser than."

Julian, who recently moved in with her boyfriend but still gets medical services at the Anna Louise, said a part of the women's home will always be with her. "To me it's sacred ground because that's where I was able to turn my life around," Julian said. "I know for a fact if the Anna Louise did not intervene in my life I would probably be dead."

Tatiana McCormick, 24, who lived at the inn after leaving Ohio's foster care system six years ago, said she's angry about the home's sale. "A lot of these ladies now have to worry about their living situation," she said. "This was something that was going well for people and it's been there for three generations. To have it happen like this, it's just outrageous."
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I'm not sure how common it is, but I'm seeing more of this tactic of continuously suing someone (even if the lawsuit is frivolous) until they can't afford fighting any more.
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The house wasn't for sale.
A property owner has the right to do what they want with their property.

Why wasn't this toss out of court immediately?
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Solauren wrote:The house wasn't for sale.
A property owner has the right to do what they want with their property.

Why wasn't this toss out of court immediately?
Presumably there was an argument based on how they could be doing more profitable things with the property. Get a suitably "pro business" judge and it shouldn't be too hard.
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Solauren wrote:The house wasn't for sale.
A property owner has the right to do what they want with their property.

Why wasn't this toss out of court immediately?
Suing the property owner doesn't count are coersive?
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Would it be wrong to try and ensure the scummy company involved gets nothing out of their investment. For example picketing as loudly as the law allows on the first few nights after the grand opening, or posting poor online reviews on popular hotel sites. Nothing illegal, but things just as scuzzy as forcing a person to sell against their will.
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Jub wrote:Would it be wrong to try and ensure the scummy company involved gets nothing out of their investment. For example picketing as loudly as the law allows on the first few nights after the grand opening, or posting poor online reviews on popular hotel sites. Nothing illegal, but things just as scuzzy as forcing a person to sell against their will.
That would be great, but by two years time (if I got that right) nobody but the actually effected woman will remember or care. The public will likely be just confused, especially once Western & Southern hired spin-doctors to manage the fallout.
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Zixinus wrote:
Jub wrote:Would it be wrong to try and ensure the scummy company involved gets nothing out of their investment. For example picketing as loudly as the law allows on the first few nights after the grand opening, or posting poor online reviews on popular hotel sites. Nothing illegal, but things just as scuzzy as forcing a person to sell against their will.
That would be great, but by two years time (if I got that right) nobody but the actually effected woman will remember or care. The public will likely be just confused, especially once Western & Southern hired spin-doctors to manage the fallout.
Yeah, that's sad but true. Still, it would be less than they deserve if they manage to get nothing out of the investment. If it wasn't a historical building I wouldn't mind if there was a disaster the day before they open for business.
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Solauren wrote:A property owner has the right to do what they want with their property.
No they don't. They have the right to do the things that the government specifically authorises, nothing else. The government found that this establishment did not file proper paperwork to have its activities authorised under the new zoning scheme and is thus in breach of current zoning rules. Yes, the government can changes the rules at any time, can require any amount of byzantine paperwork, fail to comply and face the consequences. Since it is axiomatic (to socialists) that government beurecracy is good, it is obvious that punishment of failure to file paperwork by eviction is right and just. We must thank Western & Southern for preventing these violators from getting away with their unauthorised activities and praise their attempts to bring the area closer to the government decreed ideal condition. Anyone who disagrees must be a libertarian individualist conservative anarcho-capitalist.
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You're confusing New Labour with proper socialism again.
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I hope the building burns down during renovations. There's nothing more sickening than to see all the legacy and goodness of something leached out of it by the modern commercialism after such a blatant display of power. O, Babylon! indeed...
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Solauren wrote:The house wasn't for sale.
A property owner has the right to do what they want with their property.

Why wasn't this toss out of court immediately?
Because this is murrica, and corporations are more important than you or anyone else. You're surprised that this piece of subhuman corporate scum won his case? To be entirely honest, I hope John's little mall or whatever the fuck he's building either collapses or burns down with him in it. Failing that, I hope he and his pet judge die in a freeway pileup.
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Starglider wrote:
Solauren wrote:A property owner has the right to do what they want with their property.
No they don't. They have the right to do the things that the government specifically authorises, nothing else. The government found that this establishment did not file proper paperwork to have its activities authorised under the new zoning scheme and is thus in breach of current zoning rules. Yes, the government can changes the rules at any time, can require any amount of byzantine paperwork, fail to comply and face the consequences. Since it is axiomatic (to socialists) that government beurecracy is good, it is obvious that punishment of failure to file paperwork by eviction is right and just. We must thank Western & Southern for preventing these violators from getting away with their unauthorised activities and praise their attempts to bring the area closer to the government decreed ideal condition. Anyone who disagrees must be a libertarian individualist conservative anarcho-capitalist.
You don't speak for all socialists. Being a socialist does not mean one automatically supports all government beuroracy no matter how extreme it is. And even if someone does believe in beurocracy, it does not follow that they must support a particular punishment.

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The Romulan Republic wrote:You don't speak for all socialists. Being a socialist does not mean one automatically supports all government beuroracy no matter how extreme it is. And even if someone does believe in beurocracy, it does not follow that they must support a particular punishment.

Disclaimer: I do not consider myself a socialist. I just don't like slander.
Starglider is literally just trolling for a reaction when he posts stuff like that. It's best to just not respond to those parts of his posts unless you're taking that in mind.
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Solauren wrote:The house wasn't for sale.
A property owner has the right to do what they want with their property.

Why wasn't this toss out of court immediately?
The property owner committed a zoning violation. Whether true or not, it's a legitimate court issue that was, unfortunately, used to strong-arm them out.

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The Romulan Republic wrote:You don't speak for all socialists. Being a socialist does not mean one automatically supports all government beuroracy no matter how extreme it is.
It's good to get a declaration of that in principle, but I have yet to hear the SDN Socialist Consensus find one instance of government spending increase or regulation increase they don't like (or one instance of spending cuts or deregulation they do like). That is in fact the main reason I make these kind of posts, the hope that one day someone might finally admitt that endless increase in government can backfire.
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I can think of three instances of deregulation I'm okay with right off the bat, actually. Commercial radio might have become almost universally shit nowadays but it did force the BBC to raise their game when it came to catering to the under-25 demographic, letting market forces take care of anything that isn't a natural monopoly is probably a good idea, and I will gladly stand up for further deregulation of immigration within the EU because people were spouting the same bullshit arguments about Irish navvies a hundred and fifty years ago and Britain certainly survived them.

How's that?

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Starglider wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:You don't speak for all socialists. Being a socialist does not mean one automatically supports all government beuroracy no matter how extreme it is.
It's good to get a declaration of that in principle, but I have yet to hear the SDN Socialist Consensus find one instance of government spending increase or regulation increase they don't like (or one instance of spending cuts or deregulation they do like). That is in fact the main reason I make these kind of posts, the hope that one day someone might finally admitt that endless increase in government can backfire.
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Starglider wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:You don't speak for all socialists. Being a socialist does not mean one automatically supports all government beuroracy no matter how extreme it is.
It's good to get a declaration of that in principle, but I have yet to hear the SDN Socialist Consensus find one instance of government spending increase or regulation increase they don't like (or one instance of spending cuts or deregulation they do like). That is in fact the main reason I make these kind of posts, the hope that one day someone might finally admitt that endless increase in government can backfire.
Military spending, the police/surveillance state, the Obamacare subsidies that go to private health insurance companies, student loan subsidies that go to private lenders, sales taxes, laws and regulations that try to tell private citizens what they can and can't do in their private lives, patent and copyright regulations...

Those are just my personal issues, but by your standards I'd be considered a dyed-in-the-wool socialist. (I consider myself a populist)
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You really shouldn't waste your time. Starglider has been given a pat on the head and a six-figure salary by his corporate overlords, maybe even met an exec or two, (but no one significant) but now he is under the impression that is is part of the ruling elite and has become a fervent believer in looking out for Number One and screwing everyone else with the urgency of any new convert. He's now basically spouting teabagger talking points all the time. It's really quite hilarious as to how far he'll go to defend his new masters. He might even consider himself their equal! :lol:

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Hopefully moving out of this expensive neighborhood and historic building will mean they can create a larger and modern facility at their new location.

Its nice to be next to a park no doubt, but its also nice to be able to help more people and provide a better living standard for who is there. I am sure 4 million will go a long way with new constuction. It appears the 12.6 million was based on tax credits presumably linked to their charitable activity? If that follows them too then they should have a nice operating budget too, but maybe that was linked to the historic building.

We had something similar happen (without the greedy investor) with our downtown Norfolk Union Mission. It was nice to have a facility right downtown but in the end the cost of maintaining the giant historic building cost more than was being spent on the operation of the homeless shelter inside. They moved to the middle of a depressed neighborhood in a new building in paid for with the profits of selling their facilites to a property investor. Just to give you an idea of how much upkeep the building required it is still sitting vacant now as the cost of a new owner to bring it up to standards is enormous (I live next door to it, its in rough shape).

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