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Found THIS Story Shortly after reading a similar story about how, a year after the huge Presidential defeat, Little to nothing has changed within the GOP with regards to being a mostly white, bigoted, misogynistic, hyper Religious party.
Gay political activist Jimmy LaSalvia is having a loud and public breakup with the GOP.

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Before announcing last week that he is leaving the Republican Party to become an independent –pointing to “tolerance of bigotry” within the GOP in his parting blog post – LaSalvia was a veteran GOP operative and activist, known for co-founding the conservative gay rights group GOProud.

LaSalvia sat down with “Top Line” to discuss his dramatic departure and explained that he has “no hope for the Republican Party.”

“No matter how good your autopsy … the changes the Republican Party is implementing really amount to nothing more than lipstick on a pig,” he said. “It was the Romney campaign that really got me to understand just how severe the problem is. … It's a culture of intolerance that I don't think any amount of messaging or policy changes can fix.”

Though LaSalvia still identifies as a conservative, he said he believes that the GOP is “out of touch with life in America today” and has consequently been rendered useless as a political party.

“The object of political parties is to win elections, and I've determined that the Republicans can never win a national election again, and so at that point, what's the point?” he said.

“Forty-two percent of Americans are independents, because they don't feel like either party represents their values or principles,” he continued. “I'm like everybody else, and I think that 42 percent of Americans who aren't represented by a party represent the new majority.”

He said that he held out hope for many years that the Republican Party would evolve in step with the American public on its view of gay marriage. But he said the change has come too slowly and now “it’s just too late.”

“There is a segment of the party who seems to be anti-everybody who's not like them,” he said. “You have such fear that they might lose a small sliver of intolerant voters that they're not willing to say to those people you either need to modernize and get with the program, or you can't come on our journey to help our country.”

LaSalvia said he’s not sure what his next step is in defining his place with “the new majority” but said he’s received an outpouring of support across the political spectrum since announcing his political shift last week.

For more on LaSalvia’s split from the GOP, check out this episode of “Top Line.”

ABC News’ Alexandra Dukakis, Tom Thornton, Melissa Young, and Bob Bramson contributed to this episode
While to many of us, this is not "News" the fact that more and more "conservatives" are finally, FINALLY saying "enough is enough" and leaving the GOP is telling. The comment about ""The object of political parties is to win elections, and I've determined that the Republicans can never win a national election again"" Is especially damning, as many other political straights have been saying this for a while.

There is a further story about how nothing has changed within the GOP. Recently there was a huge Report released that was SUPPOSED to document a "Rebranding" of the GOP since the 2012 election. It was SUPPOSED to show the results of over a years worth of reaching out to minorities, women, gays and Latinos. What it found instead, well...

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Republican Party's image has changed little in the year since GOP Chairman Reince Priebus published his prescription for broadening the party's appeal despite its investment in outreach to the racial minorities, women and gay voters who backed Democrats decisively in 2012.

"The issue that remains an open book for the Republicans is: What is the character of the party?" said Ari Fleischer, a top aide to President George W. Bush, who helped author the report of the "Growth and Opportunity Project. "Are we a more inclusive and welcoming party yet?"

As the Republican National Committee opens its winter meetings here Wednesday, the party is counting on the political geography and expected lower turnout of the 2014 midterm elections to give them control of the Senate. If that happens, Fleischer said, it would be a "false narcotic" for the larger problems facing a party that has lost the national popular vote in five of the last six presidential elections. Those will take years to fix.

In the past year, Priebus has launched new efforts to reach out to racial and ethnic minorities, hired about 170 state-level staff — with more planned — and invested in technology to better track potential voters, a tactic Republicans pioneered and Democrats have perfected over the past eight years. He also renewed efforts to win over Hispanics nationally with voter outreach staffers.

But these structural changes can end the GOP's White House losing streak only if its messengers fulfill the report's larger goal: "Change course, modernize the party and learn once again how to appeal to more people."

Since losing the 2012 presidential election, Republicans have continued to slip in public approval. According to a recent Gallup poll, 32 percent have a favorable opinion of the GOP now, compared with 43 percent immediately after President Barack Obama's re-election. Democrats were viewed favorably by 42 percent, also down from a year ago.

The committee has deployed 17 full-time operatives to New York, Florida, California, New Jersey, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Texas, Georgia and Colorado with the primary mission of bringing more Hispanics into the GOP fold. More are planned in states including Nevada, North Carolina, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Illinois.

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Nationally, Obama carried 71 percent of the Hispanic vote, according to exit polls conducted for The Associated Press and television networks. In New York, it was 89 percent. In Florida, 60 percent.

"This is a long-term effort," said Izzy Santa, director of Hispanic communications for the RNC. "We're making sure that we're talking to them, that we're listening to them and that we understand their concerns."

Yet, the Priebus report's only policy recommendation — an explicit call for comprehensive immigration reform — has been stalled by infighting in the GOP-controlled House. While Speaker John Boehner has promised to begin drafting key principles for such legislation, conservatives have vowed to block it. "It would be a colossal mistake for us to take up anything that just ends up changing the subject" from the 2010 health care law now in effect, said Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa.

RNC officials say their outreach is limited to changing party structure, since they have no control over legislation.

"I have to focus on the things that I most control," Priebus said in a recent conference call with reporters. "The fact is, what I most control are things like the mechanics."

The RNC has replicated its Hispanic outreach to court African Americans, Asian Americans and other demographic groups, hiring dozens of staff in Washington and in key states. Priebus personally has reached out to national black and Hispanic leaders.

Republicans also are deploying women as candidate organizers around the country, hoping to win back female voters who were turned off in 2012 when GOP Senate candidates in Missouri and Indiana crippled their campaigns by making contentious comments to explain their opposition to abortion in cases of rape.

RNC officials said those were isolated cases where the candidates' words, not the GOP's long-standing opposition to abortion, cost them.

This year, Republican women who oppose abortion rights are running for Senate in several states and can carry the party's position more authentically, GOP spokeswoman Kirsten Kukowski said. "Women candidates need to be our voices," she said. "There is a lot going on behind the scenes to arm our candidates and messengers."

The National Republican Senatorial Committee, for example, is prescribing training for candidates that includes suggestions on how to address touchy topics.

"We're going to continue to be the conservative party," said RNC member Henry Barbour of Mississippi, who helped write the Priebus report. "But you can do that in a way that's not divisive."
Once again, nothing new under the sun, other than the fact the GOP people themselves are stating to say these things.
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The Republicans even know they are done. You don't "autopsy" living things after all.
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“The object of political parties is to win elections, and I've determined that the Republicans can never win a national election again, and so at that point, what's the point?”
That single sentence sums up everything that pisses me off about modern politics. What does he think this is, a bloody team sport? The object of a political party is not 'to win elections'; it's to advocate a particular set of ideological beliefs with the intention of making the country you live in work better, and elections are just one of several means to that end. If you just want to win for the sake of winning then go play Team Fortress 2 or something.
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Zaune wrote:That single sentence sums up everything that pisses me off about modern politics. What does he think this is, a bloody team sport? The object of a political party is not 'to win elections'; it's to advocate a particular set of ideological beliefs with the intention of making the country you live in work better, and elections are just one of several means to that end. If you just want to win for the sake of winning then go play Team Fortress 2 or something.
No love for minorities (demoman) foreigners (heavy, medic, sniper, spy) or women (pyro?) leaving a team of soldier, engineer and scout.

The Republicans wouldn't win there, either.
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“The object of political parties is to win elections, and I've determined that the Republicans can never win a national election again, and so at that point, what's the point?”
That single sentence sums up everything that pisses me off about modern politics. What does he think this is, a bloody team sport? The object of a political party is not 'to win elections'; it's to advocate a particular set of ideological beliefs with the intention of making the country you live in work better, and elections are just one of several means to that end. If you just want to win for the sake of winning then go play Team Fortress 2 or something.
Well, sort of. The object of a political party is to advance an agenda. What's the best way to advance an agenda in US politics? Win a national election.
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Kuja wrote:
Zaune wrote:That single sentence sums up everything that pisses me off about modern politics. What does he think this is, a bloody team sport? The object of a political party is not 'to win elections'; it's to advocate a particular set of ideological beliefs with the intention of making the country you live in work better, and elections are just one of several means to that end. If you just want to win for the sake of winning then go play Team Fortress 2 or something.
No love for minorities (demoman) foreigners (heavy, medic, sniper, spy) or women (pyro?) leaving a team of soldier, engineer and scout.

The Republicans wouldn't win there, either.
The Engineer is an intellectual elitist for daring to have a degree, and the Scout is one of those filthy, stupid young people the party is devoted to disenfranchising.
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“The object of political parties is to win elections, and I've determined that the Republicans can never win a national election again, and so at that point, what's the point?”
That single sentence sums up everything that pisses me off about modern politics. What does he think this is, a bloody team sport? The object of a political party is not 'to win elections'; it's to advocate a particular set of ideological beliefs with the intention of making the country you live in work better, and elections are just one of several means to that end. If you just want to win for the sake of winning then go play Team Fortress 2 or something.
On the other hand, if a party has become blatantly unelectable, it says one of two things:

1) The party is so poorly organized that it can no longer serve as an effective vessel for its ideology, in which case it needs to be drastically reinvented. If that reinvention cannot happen, the only thing to do is abandon the party and work on a new coalition/party more capable of doing the job.

2) On the other hand, maybe the party's ideology has become so unpopular that it no longer has any chance of winning over the people. In which case, maybe it's time to do a bit of soul-searching and ask yourself why the people are not interested in your ideology, and whether you might not be on the side of the angels anymore.

The current situation for the Republicans is a mix of (1) and (2). The party is increasingly unable to actually accomplish its own goals, because of how stupid and fanatical its headline-winning politicians appear to the nation. AND the party's ideology seems more and more radical, to a public that has grown very tired of it, and was never really that fond of it in the first place.*

*No, seriously, even back in 2000. If you look at the numbers, Bush was bleeding popularity at a steady rate throughout his presidency; the only things that kept him afloat were 9/11 and the Iraq War providing one-time shots to bolster his position.

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The biggest problem is how they managed to gerrymander so many states to a near-permanent Republican majority in the state legislatures, which Democrats have not been paying enough attention to.
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Edi wrote:The biggest problem is how they managed to gerrymander so many states to a near-permanent Republican majority in the state legislatures, which Democrats have not been paying enough attention to.
What exactly should they have done to prevent that? After all, once the lines have been drawn to prevent the Dems to win, the only way to undo that would have been to re-draw the lines, for which you would need to win, first...

Frankly, making waves in the news about gerrymandering would only result in shrugs, "meh, they'd do the same if they had won" comments, and accusations of being whiny loosers.
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Edi wrote:The biggest problem is how they managed to gerrymander so many states to a near-permanent Republican majority in the state legislatures, which Democrats have not been paying enough attention to.
What exactly should they have done to prevent that? After all, once the lines have been drawn to prevent the Dems to win, the only way to undo that would have been to re-draw the lines, for which you would need to win, first...

Frankly, making waves in the news about gerrymandering would only result in shrugs, "meh, they'd do the same if they had won" comments, and accusations of being whiny loosers.
Well in states under Democratic control they gerrymander with the best of them. The purple states tend to have the fairest districts. But if they had you know, tried to win governorships and state legislatures successfully in a fucking census year they could have easily prevented it. But '10 was the big Taliban Party wave election cycle so who knows if that was even feasible.
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The redistricting process is just part of the problem. To be honest, the entire US electoral system from top to bottom and back up has been designed to fail, encourage corruption and concentration of power to the hands of teh few and limit the possibility of enacting any meaningful change.
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Edi wrote:The redistricting process is just part of the problem. To be honest, the entire US electoral system from top to bottom and back up has been designed to fail, encourage corruption and concentration of power to the hands of teh few and limit the possibility of enacting any meaningful change.
So I gather you would endorse gutting it from the ground up? Not a bad idea per se but what exactly would you change it to, and how?
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Elheru Aran wrote:
Edi wrote:The redistricting process is just part of the problem. To be honest, the entire US electoral system from top to bottom and back up has been designed to fail, encourage corruption and concentration of power to the hands of teh few and limit the possibility of enacting any meaningful change.
So I gather you would endorse gutting it from the ground up? Not a bad idea per se but what exactly would you change it to, and how?
We could start by getting rid of the useless electoral college.
Then we take voting regulation and procedure away from the states and put it under federal control for all federal offices.
Then we get rid of the ridiculous one workday voting period and either have voting on the first weekend in November, or make Election Day a federal holiday with a full month of early voting allowed beforehand.
Then we have nonpartisan committees in each state set the congressional districts subject to judicial review to make sure no shenanigans are going on.
Then we make campaign contributions illegal and have publicly funded campaigns with the FCC requiring broadcast stations to set aside free ad time for each candidate. And no fucking PACs or SuperPACs.

All of that could be done with a few constitutional amendments.
And finally, just to shut them up about voter fraud, revamp social security cards into a national picture ID.
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But Flagg, creating a state that can actually do its job instead of fight its own bureaucracy is not the American Way.

I am serious, by the way. It sounds like something that would need either decades or a fuckhuge emergency to happen.
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Flagg wrote:Then we get rid of the ridiculous one workday voting period and either have voting on the first weekend in November, or make Election Day a federal holiday with a full month of early voting allowed beforehand.
If people can vote more often than one day of one year, for one election, wouldn't that make the process vulnerable to ballot box stuffing and other forms of voting fraud? We already have problems with "voters" being driven across multiple districts so they can vote multiple times for the same candidate, in the same election.
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Another big problem is that Texas is setting up to become a swing state here in the near future. If Republicans were smart they'd be doing everything they can to dissuade the notion that they hate minorities and immigrants (both legal and illegal). As it stands right now, I've met very few actual liberal Hispanics in this state. They tend to be pretty damn socially conservative. But the stance is, at least on the federal level, the Republican party hates them, so they vote democrat even though they should be voting Republican. At some point the "I like Obama more than Republican candidate X, but I vote Republicans because reasons" isn't going to hold out forever.

On the flip side, as I've said before, Democrats could likely speed up the process by changing their stance on Gun Control. Or at least play down their goals. Right now, if you are a gun owner, the Democrats on the federal level are not your friend, thus leaving you in the arms of the GOP and all it's baggage or just voting third party.

Maybe the Republicans can just die out and the Democrats can fracture into new parties. It's not like there aren't plenty of conservatives in there already, including the current Commander in Chief.
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Elheru Aran wrote:
Edi wrote:The redistricting process is just part of the problem. To be honest, the entire US electoral system from top to bottom and back up has been designed to fail, encourage corruption and concentration of power to the hands of teh few and limit the possibility of enacting any meaningful change.
So I gather you would endorse gutting it from the ground up? Not a bad idea per se but what exactly would you change it to, and how?
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TheFeniX wrote:Another big problem is that Texas is setting up to become a swing state here in the near future. If Republicans were smart they'd be doing everything they can to dissuade the notion that they hate minorities and immigrants (both legal and illegal). As it stands right now, I've met very few actual liberal Hispanics in this state. They tend to be pretty damn socially conservative. But the stance is, at least on the federal level, the Republican party hates them, so they vote democrat even though they should be voting Republican. At some point the "I like Obama more than Republican candidate X, but I vote Republicans because reasons" isn't going to hold out forever.

On the flip side, as I've said before, Democrats could likely speed up the process by changing their stance on Gun Control. Or at least play down their goals. Right now, if you are a gun owner, the Democrats on the federal level are not your friend, thus leaving you in the arms of the GOP and all it's baggage or just voting third party.

Maybe the Republicans can just die out and the Democrats can fracture into new parties. It's not like there aren't plenty of conservatives in there already, including the current Commander in Chief.
My hope is that the republicans go the way of the Whigs, the Taliban Partiers stay on the ultra rightwing margins saying hilariously offensive bullshit and the democrats split with the Clinton/ establishment wing taking center right and the Warren/ left wing forming a viable liberal party.
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Flagg wrote:Then we get rid of the ridiculous one workday voting period and either have voting on the first weekend in November, or make Election Day a federal holiday with a full month of early voting allowed beforehand.
If people can vote more often than one day of one year, for one election, wouldn't that make the process vulnerable to ballot box stuffing and other forms of voting fraud? We already have problems with "voters" being driven across multiple districts so they can vote multiple times for the same candidate, in the same election.
We don't have that problem and we've been doing early voting in most states for quite awhile.
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If the Republicans can manage to field a decent minority candidate, they may have a chance by appealing to Hispanic social conservatives, along with the usual reliable white-male conservative base. A lot of Hispanics would probably vote for someone like Marco Rubio, who would likely promise to be soft on immigration (see his stance on the DREAM act, for example) while also peddling the usual Tea Party crap about Jesus and hating gays and such.

I mean, the Republicans must surely know that fielding another old white guy in 2016 is basically a death sentence.
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Channel72 wrote: I mean, the Republicans must surely know that fielding another old white guy in 2016 is basically a death sentence.
Perhaps some of them do...
But they can do NOTHING about it!

Field a moderate or a minority? And he will never get the nomination.
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Not to double post... But I just found this news article to be HILARIOUS!
As if sensing their own blood in the water, the GOP votes to drastically shorten it's Presidential nomination process.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican leaders overwhelmingly voted Friday to shorten their presidential selection process in an attempt to minimize damage from GOP candidates attacking each other.

"This is a historic day for our party," RNC chairman Reince Preibus declared.

He said the changes would not allow Republicans to "slice and dice" each other for six months or participate in "a circus of debates." Republican candidates participated in 27 debates for the 2012 nomination.

Iowa and New Hampshire will retain their coveted spots atop the presidential primary calendar, and South Carolina and Nevada also secured top spots, as they have in the past, as part of a larger plan that could significantly reshape the 2016 presidential election.

The vote came as the Republican National Committee works to create an easier path to the White House for its next nominee roughly a year before campaigning begins in earnest for the next presidential contest. While President Barack Obama's second term began just one year ago, prospective Republican candidates already have begun visiting states like Iowa and New Hampshire that hold outsize influence because of their early positions on the primary calendar.

New Hampshire, Iowa, South Carolina and Nevada are scheduled to host the first four contests in February 2016 under the new schedule, while the remainder of the nation's 46 states and territories would vote between early March and mid-May. The party's national convention is expected in late June or early July, roughly two months sooner than has become the norm.

Officials from early voting states praised the plan, which establishes strict penalties for states that jump out of order, as Florida did in 2012.

Republican national committeeman Steve Duprey of New Hampshire described the changes as an "effective death penalty for any state that tries to jump the calendar."

"This will be the best protection that New Hampshire has ever had for its primary," he said.

The shift comes during the winter meeting of the Republican National Committee, a collection of party leaders and activists from every state that controls the GOP's national infrastructure. The group expects to finalize additional changes, including setting a new date for its 2016 national convention, later in the year. Among other changes, the RNC intends to dramatically reduce the number of presidential debates and have more control over the moderators.

"Big reforms are coming to our presidential nominating process — reforms that put Republican voters, not the liberal media, in the driver's seat," Priebus said.

GOP leaders also complained that the party's 2012 nominee, Mitt Romney, was forced to suffer through a lengthy and expensive primary process that ultimately hurt his ability to compete against Obama. An earlier convention date, for example, would allow the party's next nominee to access millions of dollars of general election cash months earlier.

Not everyone was pleased with the changes, which were approved by a 153-to-9 vote.

"I think we're going too far in shortening this process," Republican committeeman Morton Blackwell of Virginia said. "We need an adequate amount of time in order for presidential candidates to be tested."

Committee members gathered in Washington this week also began considering the location of its 2016 national convention.

Representatives from four contending cities — Las Vegas, Denver, Kansas City, Mo., and Columbus, Ohio — offered gifts and parties to help secure an early advantage. Las Vegas' bid, fueled in part by Republican megadonor Sheldon Adelson, gave GOP officials complimentary wireless Internet access and goodie bags with fleece jackets and leather binders.

The RNC is expected to select its next convention location no earlier than this summer
I mean you can just SMELL the desperation on the part of the RNC, they KNOW how faked they are when it comes to the general election.
So what do you do? Everything in your power to try and limit the amount of town your candidates have to show what total ideologically insane nut jobs they are!
BRILLIANT!!!

But the thing is, what the GOP fails to understand with this is that candidates did NOT "slice and dice each other up" during the GOP selection period as the article states... With the exception of Romney and Santorum, every other candidate in the race punched themselves in the face and stuck their own foot in their own mouth with some of the most idiotic comments and statements ever. In other words, they said exactly what they actually BELIEVED! Perhaps the most dangerous thing a Republican could ever do!.
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Channel72 wrote: I mean, the Republicans must surely know that fielding another old white guy in 2016 is basically a death sentence.
Perhaps some of them do...
But they can do NOTHING about it!

Field a moderate or a minority? And he will never get the nomination.
Mitt Romney was a moderate (by Republican standards). And he was also a Mormon. They ultimately nominated him instead of any of the other obviously crazy idiots who were running. He then went on to win 48% of the popular vote (more than McCain in '08), despite the fact that other Republican candidates said insanely stupid things.

I'm not entirely convinced the Republican party can't pull some sort of a comeback. There's still a lot of religiosity in this country. The obvious strategy seems to be appealing to Hispanics. The question is whether or not they can get an effective message out by 2016.

They'll never get Reagan level support again, but they may still be able to (very narrowly) win general elections.
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One consequence of the short primary season will be that the crazies have less time to discredit themselves. If I were cold-bloodedly calling the shots for the RNC I'd call it a gamble- they're gambling that a relatively sane candidate (someone like Romney) will become the front-runner quickly and secure the nomination.

The danger is that if the Republicans used the new rules while dealing with the 2012 slate of candidates for nomination... well. In 2012 the nomination process ran from January 3 (the Iowa caucus) to August 27 (the Republican National Convention): roughly eight months. Here they're running from mid-February to around June 30... about five and a half months.

In the 2012 nomination process, there was a lot of political maneuvering in 2011- the successive and repetitive rise of "anyone but Romney" candidates went on for about five months prior to the 1/3/12 date of the actual Iowa caucus, as we see here.

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If the RNC is trying to avoid what happened to them in 2012, they'll want to pressure candidates NOT to start campaigning against each other actively until shortly prior to the Iowa caucuses (say, 3 months of pre-caucus campaigning). In effect, that pushes the Iowa caucus 'backward' toward the left side of that graph.

But if we push the Iowa caucus back by two months, then Mitt Romney's chief rival in popularity would have been Herman Cain. Cain might even have won. And Herman Cain would have been a complete disaster as the Republican nominee. Perry wouldn't have been much better, if any.

So the risk to the RNC is that by frontloading the nomination process to reduce the media exposure of their lunatic fringe, they increase the risk that their lunatic fringe candidates will actually win the primaries in certain states, and that they'll have a humiliating nomination battle between the Remembered-To-Take-Our-Meds wing and the Tea wing of the party.
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Re: GOP Gay activist: "No hope for the Republic Party"

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You know, during the last election, a lot of us joked about what it would be like if a Rick Perry or a Bachmann actual;ly won the nomination and went full bat shit crazy in front of America…

This nomination change could actually DO That!

Of course as you say, it is just as possible that the changes will make it that much easier for the GOP "establishment" to shove through some moderate milquetoast candidate they think will appeal to the mindless middle of America and get elected.
Of course of course, we saw how well that worked with Romney...
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