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Last Friday a Mr. Brian Howard arrived at his workplace in Aurora, Illinois. He was a contract employee at an FAA facility called an Air Route Traffic Control Center or ARTCC. This facility is responsible for directing air traffic over about 91,000 square miles, or about 236,000 square kilmeters, of the US Midwest roughly centered on Chicago. He posted what might have been intended as a suicide note on Facebook, then wrecked a shitload of equipment, poured gasoline over the mess, set it all on fire, and attempted to cut his own throat. Some details are a little hazy, what with Mr. Howard being injured and lying in a hospital bed at this point, the news is reporting something about him being upset at being transferred to Hawaii, but the Feds are waiting for him to recover sufficiently for a detailed questioning. He has also, not surprisingly, been fired.
The first notion the controllers at the facility had that something was wrong was when both the radios and the radio went down. Then the fire alarms went off. While the building was being evacauted and the local fire department was dealing with a blazing major air traffic control facility commercial aviation over Chicago came to screeching halt.
Well, sort of. Airplanes in the air must keep flying, of course, what halted was any new take-offs on instrument flight plans destined for any airport under Aurora ARTCC control, including the major hubs of O'Hare and Midway but also a bunch of smaller ones as well. Airplanes in the air were diverted to cities like Cleveland or Indianapolis or Milwaukee or Kansas City, with a few allowed to land at Chicago airports (presumably under VFR rules - thank Og the weather Friday was near-perfect for flying)
Thousands of flights have been cancelled every day since Friday.
The equipment damaged is too damaged to be repaired, it must be replaced. The FAA says that will happen no earlier than October 13. Meanwhile, the workload of the Aurora ARTCC has been portioned out between the ARTCC's in nearly regions (Cleveland, Minneapolois, Kansas City, Indianapolis) including Aurora controllers temporarily relocating to those cities to help with the workload. The Aurora ARTCC handles about 2,300,000 flights per year, it's a bit busy. Problem is, those other facilities were already pretty damn busy. It doesn't look like they can handle more than 40-60% of the Aurora ARTCC traffic on top of their own assigned areas.
You know, 16 years ago the GAO issued a report warning something like this could happen. Did anyone do anything to mitigate the potential problems? No, of course not. That might cost money or something. Redundancy isn't efficient or something - nevermind that the aviation industry, including airlines and cargo, are sort of important to the economy.
Lucky for Mr. Howard no one got hurt (other than himself). Sabotaging aviation equipment is a Federal felony. Sabotage of that sort which leads to injury or death is a Federal capital offense. He is looking "merely" at a very long jail term in a Federal prison.
Anyhow - if ya'll were planning to visit Chicago sometime in October you may wish to make alternate travel plans if you were coming by air.
I've sort of condensed the info from a bunch of articles here - if you want links I can provide them. I just thought this was a better way to sum up what's happened.
There have, of course, been calls for better background checks, better security, etc. You know what? FAA officials are already subjected to Federal background checks. There are limits to how thoroughly you can screen people, and even if someone is normal enough at screening that doesn't completely eliminate the potential for a meltdown at some later point. As has been demonstrated. Illinois Senator Mark Kirk wants some sort of plan to prevent one person having such a capability to cause such damage ever again. I'm sorry, Mr. Kirk, but you can't make the world perfectly safe. The US built a complex air traffic control system, refused for years to keep the equipment updated, refused to pay for redundancy in critical systems, and I'm sorry, that leaves us vulnerable to this sort of shit.
This isn't even a worst-case scenario. The Aurora ARTCC isn't even the busiest one in the nation. 5 am, when this all went down, isn't the busiest part of the time in regards to air traffic. The weather, as noted, was perfect as opposed to overcast/thunderstorms/other shit that, with major radio and radar malfunctions, would have made keeping airplanes from colliding MUCH more difficult for all concerned.
Yeah, it's a problem with one deranged person causing a lot of damage. It's also a problem with not maintaining infrastructure and failing to have adequate redundancy in critical systems.
Anyhow - rather than post a shitload of links I summed up what I know up to this point. If you want links I'll dig them up.
As another minor annoyance - this has also affected weather reporting in the greater Chicago area. A lot of weather stations were automated and the data flowed through the Aurora ARTCC... which is no longer functional. Well, of course, a lot of modern weather forecasting was developed by and for aviation.
Also, good luck renting a car anywhere near the big airports. Or getting a seat on Amtrak. Or a bus. Basically, all other transport modes are overloaded from folks who can't get a flight out not wanting to waiting a couple weeks for a flight.
On the upside, if there is an upside, general aviation flying VFR is largely unaffected.
The first notion the controllers at the facility had that something was wrong was when both the radios and the radio went down. Then the fire alarms went off. While the building was being evacauted and the local fire department was dealing with a blazing major air traffic control facility commercial aviation over Chicago came to screeching halt.
Well, sort of. Airplanes in the air must keep flying, of course, what halted was any new take-offs on instrument flight plans destined for any airport under Aurora ARTCC control, including the major hubs of O'Hare and Midway but also a bunch of smaller ones as well. Airplanes in the air were diverted to cities like Cleveland or Indianapolis or Milwaukee or Kansas City, with a few allowed to land at Chicago airports (presumably under VFR rules - thank Og the weather Friday was near-perfect for flying)
Thousands of flights have been cancelled every day since Friday.
The equipment damaged is too damaged to be repaired, it must be replaced. The FAA says that will happen no earlier than October 13. Meanwhile, the workload of the Aurora ARTCC has been portioned out between the ARTCC's in nearly regions (Cleveland, Minneapolois, Kansas City, Indianapolis) including Aurora controllers temporarily relocating to those cities to help with the workload. The Aurora ARTCC handles about 2,300,000 flights per year, it's a bit busy. Problem is, those other facilities were already pretty damn busy. It doesn't look like they can handle more than 40-60% of the Aurora ARTCC traffic on top of their own assigned areas.
You know, 16 years ago the GAO issued a report warning something like this could happen. Did anyone do anything to mitigate the potential problems? No, of course not. That might cost money or something. Redundancy isn't efficient or something - nevermind that the aviation industry, including airlines and cargo, are sort of important to the economy.
Lucky for Mr. Howard no one got hurt (other than himself). Sabotaging aviation equipment is a Federal felony. Sabotage of that sort which leads to injury or death is a Federal capital offense. He is looking "merely" at a very long jail term in a Federal prison.
Anyhow - if ya'll were planning to visit Chicago sometime in October you may wish to make alternate travel plans if you were coming by air.
I've sort of condensed the info from a bunch of articles here - if you want links I can provide them. I just thought this was a better way to sum up what's happened.
There have, of course, been calls for better background checks, better security, etc. You know what? FAA officials are already subjected to Federal background checks. There are limits to how thoroughly you can screen people, and even if someone is normal enough at screening that doesn't completely eliminate the potential for a meltdown at some later point. As has been demonstrated. Illinois Senator Mark Kirk wants some sort of plan to prevent one person having such a capability to cause such damage ever again. I'm sorry, Mr. Kirk, but you can't make the world perfectly safe. The US built a complex air traffic control system, refused for years to keep the equipment updated, refused to pay for redundancy in critical systems, and I'm sorry, that leaves us vulnerable to this sort of shit.
This isn't even a worst-case scenario. The Aurora ARTCC isn't even the busiest one in the nation. 5 am, when this all went down, isn't the busiest part of the time in regards to air traffic. The weather, as noted, was perfect as opposed to overcast/thunderstorms/other shit that, with major radio and radar malfunctions, would have made keeping airplanes from colliding MUCH more difficult for all concerned.
Yeah, it's a problem with one deranged person causing a lot of damage. It's also a problem with not maintaining infrastructure and failing to have adequate redundancy in critical systems.
Anyhow - rather than post a shitload of links I summed up what I know up to this point. If you want links I'll dig them up.
As another minor annoyance - this has also affected weather reporting in the greater Chicago area. A lot of weather stations were automated and the data flowed through the Aurora ARTCC... which is no longer functional. Well, of course, a lot of modern weather forecasting was developed by and for aviation.
Also, good luck renting a car anywhere near the big airports. Or getting a seat on Amtrak. Or a bus. Basically, all other transport modes are overloaded from folks who can't get a flight out not wanting to waiting a couple weeks for a flight.
On the upside, if there is an upside, general aviation flying VFR is largely unaffected.
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Who gets that upset about being transferred to Hawaii?
That also seems like a pretty significant change of location to just drop on someone. I would have thought there would be people ready to volunteer to have someone else to pay to move them to Hawaii, at least for a few years.
Post Cold War, it seems like no one wants to pay for any sort of redundancy. So much for "Be Prepared".
That also seems like a pretty significant change of location to just drop on someone. I would have thought there would be people ready to volunteer to have someone else to pay to move them to Hawaii, at least for a few years.
Post Cold War, it seems like no one wants to pay for any sort of redundancy. So much for "Be Prepared".
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It's infrastructure, Regan at the tail end of his Presidency should have the next President to drop two hundred billion into basic infrastructure but skipped it to build up other concerns then came Clinton at the tail end of his Presidency and he spent about as third as much as was needed. Which brings us to Obama who his successor in 2016 will be due for now 800 odd billion in investments... which won't happen.Tsyroc wrote:
Post Cold War, it seems like no one wants to pay for any sort of redundancy. So much for "Be Prepared".
When I say infrastructure I mean the unsexy kind, the kind that does not create ten million jobs but does give you the floor you need to create that.
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...There is a certain dark-comedic aspect to him objecting to being transferred to, of all places, Hawaii.Broomstick wrote:Last Friday a Mr. Brian Howard arrived at his workplace in Aurora, Illinois. He was a contract employee at an FAA facility called an Air Route Traffic Control Center or ARTCC. This facility is responsible for directing air traffic over about 91,000 square miles, or about 236,000 square kilmeters, of the US Midwest roughly centered on Chicago. He posted what might have been intended as a suicide note on Facebook, then wrecked a shitload of equipment, poured gasoline over the mess, set it all on fire, and attempted to cut his own throat. Some details are a little hazy, what with Mr. Howard being injured and lying in a hospital bed at this point, the news is reporting something about him being upset at being transferred to Hawaii, but the Feds are waiting for him to recover sufficiently for a detailed questioning. He has also, not surprisingly, been fired.
But yes, this is an excellent illustration of the consequences of disaster, lack of redundancy in vital infrastructure, and inability to keep track of how your employees feel about the situation.
Naturally the official response will revolve around, oh, I dunno, totally pointless and spurious personality testing, armed guards all over everywhere, and the like. It's easier to crack down than to actually manage your own employees and design your systems to be functional.
You know, 16 years ago the GAO issued a report warning something like this could happen. Did anyone do anything to mitigate the potential problems? No, of course not. That might cost money or something. Redundancy isn't efficient or something - nevermind that the aviation industry, including airlines and cargo, are sort of important to the economy.
Yeah. Especially if your working environment is the kind of hellhole created by constant surveillance and paranoia toward all workers. Chronically mistrust and disrespect your employees and they'll get the notion that you don't trust or respect them.There have, of course, been calls for better background checks, better security, etc. You know what? FAA officials are already subjected to Federal background checks. There are limits to how thoroughly you can screen people, and even if someone is normal enough at screening that doesn't completely eliminate the potential for a meltdown at some later point.
...Redundancy IS the plan to prevent one person having such a capability to cause such damage ever again. How do you stop one person from destroying a whole family's ability to travel? Buy a second car. How do you stop one flu bug from disabling your whole workplace? Make sure two people are trained to do the essential job no one else can function without. How do you stop one broken leg from stopping the play? Train an understudy.As has been demonstrated. Illinois Senator Mark Kirk wants some sort of plan to prevent one person having such a capability to cause such damage ever again. I'm sorry, Mr. Kirk, but you can't make the world perfectly safe. The US built a complex air traffic control system, refused for years to keep the equipment updated, refused to pay for redundancy in critical systems, and I'm sorry, that leaves us vulnerable to this sort of shit.
Does Kirk not grasp this, or is it just that the issue has not been adequately explained to him?
Yeah. Reagan was busy with the military, Clinton was fighting an anti-spending Congress, and Obama... still fighting an anti-spending Congress. The Bush years (either set) would have been a pretty good time too, and that's every president we've had in the past 35 years covered.Mr Bean wrote:It's infrastructure, Regan at the tail end of his Presidency should have the next President to drop two hundred billion into basic infrastructure but skipped it to build up other concerns then came Clinton at the tail end of his Presidency and he spent about as third as much as was needed. Which brings us to Obama who his successor in 2016 will be due for now 800 odd billion in investments... which won't happen.Tsyroc wrote:
Post Cold War, it seems like no one wants to pay for any sort of redundancy. So much for "Be Prepared".
When I say infrastructure I mean the unsexy kind, the kind that does not create ten million jobs but does give you the floor you need to create that.
There's always a reason to put off spending on things like this; it's just that we've been too busy screwing around with the culture wars and hyper-polarized idiot-politics for anyone to quietly make the right decision behind the scenes.
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Isn't ATC one of the most overworked and overstressed industries around? I'm surprised something like this hasn't happened already.
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Humans aren't robots. If I had to guess, he was given just two options - leave the continental United States or lose his livelihood - that both amounted to ruining the life he had outside of work. A sentiment that he should be grateful for being uprooted because "Dude, it's Hawaii!" isn't going to help matters.Tsyroc wrote:Who gets that upset about being transferred to Hawaii?
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Well, that suggests that the background checks and other procedures are, on the whole, working. That the vast, vast majority of all air traffic control people are either psychologically stable, or are unstable in such a way that when they snap they hurt themselves but not their workplace.Darmalus wrote:Isn't ATC one of the most overworked and overstressed industries around? I'm surprised something like this hasn't happened already.
[Although even then, instances of an employee going nuts and trashing their workplace are just plain not very common in the professional world]
The catch, of course, is that there's a world of difference between "rarely goes wrong" and "cannot conceivably go wrong."
That's a fair point.Grumman wrote:Humans aren't robots. If I had to guess, he was given just two options - leave the continental United States or lose his livelihood - that both amounted to ruining the life he had outside of work. A sentiment that he should be grateful for being uprooted because "Dude, it's Hawaii!" isn't going to help matters.Tsyroc wrote:Who gets that upset about being transferred to Hawaii?
I for one am not really saying that ending up in Hawaii is fair compensation for everything bad that might be involveod in a move. It simply adds an element of dark irony to the situation, that the thing which so distressed this man was something a lot of people would have been quite happy with. It illustrates the unpredictability of human nature, I guess.
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Apparently, he had “strong ties to Northwestern Indiana”. I guess all of his family is there. Living in Hawaii would have meant leaving them. Even though I'm sure he was paid enough to make the trip back and forth several times a year Hawaii is a long way away and some people are very attached to their relatives.Tsyroc wrote:Who gets that upset about being transferred to Hawaii?
It also means uprooting not just himself but his wife and kids as well. I think he has a wife and kids, I'm not entirely clear on that. Really, we haven't been subjected to a lot of personal detail on this guy.
That's just a guess, based on what few details were made public.
Having been subjected to a Federal background check some years ago, it's pretty comprehensive. The ARTCC already has armed guards. I'm not sure how much more could be done as a practical matter.Simon_Jester wrote:Naturally the official response will revolve around, oh, I dunno, totally pointless and spurious personality testing, armed guards all over everywhere, and the like. It's easier to crack down than to actually manage your own employees and design your systems to be functional.
He's a Republican. Heaven forbid you spend tax money on anything! Other than politicians, of course.Redundancy IS the plan to prevent one person having such a capability to cause such damage ever again. How do you stop one person from destroying a whole family's ability to travel? Buy a second car. How do you stop one flu bug from disabling your whole workplace? Make sure two people are trained to do the essential job no one else can function without. How do you stop one broken leg from stopping the play? Train an understudy.
Does Kirk not grasp this, or is it just that the issue has not been adequately explained to him?
Yep.Darmalus wrote:Isn't ATC one of the most overworked and overstressed industries around?
I don't think this guy was working as a controller, he might have been involved in maintaining the systems, but it's still a stressful culture.
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I suspect more will be done as an IMpractical matter. The response will be neither proportionate, nor responsible, nor effective... it will simply be.Broomstick wrote:Having been subjected to a Federal background check some years ago, it's pretty comprehensive. The ARTCC already has armed guards. I'm not sure how much more could be done as a practical matter.
The Air Traffic Control equivalent of the TSA, in other words. At least until politicians get bored and forget air traffic control is a thing.
Well then, someone should patiently explain to him that if you demand a system such that this "can never happen again" and proceed to pay zero money for it, then you will get exactly zero system in return...He's a Republican. Heaven forbid you spend tax money on anything! Other than politicians, of course.Redundancy IS the plan to prevent one person having such a capability to cause such damage ever again. How do you stop one person from destroying a whole family's ability to travel? Buy a second car. How do you stop one flu bug from disabling your whole workplace? Make sure two people are trained to do the essential job no one else can function without. How do you stop one broken leg from stopping the play? Train an understudy.
Does Kirk not grasp this, or is it just that the issue has not been adequately explained to him?
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Well, this just shows you need redundancy in critical systems it's not like a worker going crazy in only thing that can wreck equipment. A tornado can also take out ATC tower, ordinary electrical fire can do the same as some other accidents
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Ah, the politician's syllogism.
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I wonder if he planned it that way, and if he did then how it would affect an insanity plea. This is the kind of case my father would be embroiled in if he were still working at the FAA today.This isn't even a worst-case scenario. The Aurora ARTCC isn't even the busiest one in the nation. 5 am, when this all went down, isn't the busiest part of the time in regards to air traffic. The weather, as noted, was perfect as opposed to overcast/thunderstorms/other shit that, with major radio and radar malfunctions, would have made keeping airplanes from colliding MUCH more difficult for all concerned.
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Personally, I wouldn't be grateful for having to move for my job. Having to move to Hawaii would be a little easier to swallow than a lot of places, I might even be moderately enthused (okay, sort of hopeful) for awhile. I have a feeling I would get sick of it pretty fast 1. because it's a group of islands in the Pacific. 2. It would be long and expensive to travel to anywhere else. 3. Family members would want to come visit and stay with me.Grumman wrote: Humans aren't robots. If I had to guess, he was given just two options - leave the continental United States or lose his livelihood - that both amounted to ruining the life he had outside of work. A sentiment that he should be grateful for being uprooted because "Dude, it's Hawaii!" isn't going to help matters.
The guy lost his shit. Destroyed a bunch of equipment that is necessary for public safety, and he tried to kill himself. I hope there was a lot more going on than he didn't want to quit or move to Hawaii because that is an extreme reaction.
I'm kind of hoping that when they investigate this they also look into the management practices of where he worked because this guy seemed to be trying to send a giant "FUCK YOU!" to someone.
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Broomstick wrote:Apparently, he had “strong ties to Northwestern Indiana”. I guess all of his family is there. Living in Hawaii would have meant leaving them. Even though I'm sure he was paid enough to make the trip back and forth several times a year Hawaii is a long way away and some people are very attached to their relatives.Tsyroc wrote:Who gets that upset about being transferred to Hawaii?
It also means uprooting not just himself but his wife and kids as well. I think he has a wife and kids, I'm not entirely clear on that. Really, we haven't been subjected to a lot of personal detail on this guy.
That's just a guess, based on what few details were made public.
Does anyone know if it is common for people in his line of work to get transferred around the country? Even if it is, Indiana to Hawaii is a big transfer.
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How nice of a place to live is Hawaii, anyway? I've heard some... mixed reviews, shall we say.
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Nice place to visit, very expensive cost-of-living.
Remember, this guy was NOT working for the FAA directly. He was working for a company that worked for the FAA. That said - FAA personnel are far-flung, as are some other types of government employees. The US government stations people everywhere from Barrow, Alaska (if you went any further north you'd be going south again) to the Hawaiian Islands to Guam to Texas to Puerto Rico to Maine.
Is transfer far away particularly common? No. It's far from unknown, either.
Federal employees, those who actually work for the Feds, would most likely get a bump in pay to compensate from the greater costs of living in Hawaii but a contract employee may not get such a consideration.
Mr. Howard is apparently recovered enough to attend his first court appearance this afternoon.
Also, the FAA has received the first shipment of replacement equipment as of today.
Remember, this guy was NOT working for the FAA directly. He was working for a company that worked for the FAA. That said - FAA personnel are far-flung, as are some other types of government employees. The US government stations people everywhere from Barrow, Alaska (if you went any further north you'd be going south again) to the Hawaiian Islands to Guam to Texas to Puerto Rico to Maine.
Is transfer far away particularly common? No. It's far from unknown, either.
Federal employees, those who actually work for the Feds, would most likely get a bump in pay to compensate from the greater costs of living in Hawaii but a contract employee may not get such a consideration.
Mr. Howard is apparently recovered enough to attend his first court appearance this afternoon.
Also, the FAA has received the first shipment of replacement equipment as of today.
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I've never been to Hawaii, but my father used to tell me that being on such small islands for any extended period of time can start to feel like a prison.
This was back before internet and most modern home media though.
This was back before internet and most modern home media though.
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The primary UK ATTC at Swannick does have good separate-path redundant systems for this reason; it has to be reliable because the option to reallocate workload to other centers doesn't really exist. The secondary centre in Prestwick can't take on a significant amount of extra traffic; however there is a third emergency control center kept at warm standby, with sufficient capacity (in theory) to land or divert abroad every plane currently in UK airspace. Not sure if the US has the equivalent of that, probably not necessary when the US has numerous primary control centers.
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The US didn't build redundancy because around the time it lost most of its redundancy, via closing down so many air force bases that shared the same radar network, the FAA was also was being promised that the GPS based system that would negate the very need for controllers outside of takeoff and landing patterns was just around the corner. Problem is that corner has proven to be a spiral.
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I've been on a few islands that people live on (St. Thomas, Guam and O'ahu) and I felt that way to a certain extent. If you are used to being able to hop in a car and drive hundreds of miles to somewhere different it would take getting used to.Jaepheth wrote:I've never been to Hawaii, but my father used to tell me that being on such small islands for any extended period of time can start to feel like a prison.
This was back before internet and most modern home media though.
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I don't know the details of that but I am pretty certain it is snake oil just on general principles. Automation has effectively eliminated the job of ATC assistant, who used to update the strips and generally do paperwork that is now done by computers. However the state of the art in dynamic flow control is simply not reliable or flexible enough (yet, or in the near future) to meet the requirement of automating busy airspace management. If it was unmanned drones sure but not commercial airliners.Sea Skimmer wrote:the FAA was also was being promised that the GPS based system that would negate the very need for controllers outside of takeoff and landing patterns was just around the corner.
By redundancy do you mean primary radar coverage from the military radar heads? That would not have helped here with damage to the equipment at the ATC center. Or did you mean the military used to have more capability to direct commercial traffic? If so I would also be surprised, because the UK attitude is that the military ATC job is so different having them suddenly try to handle civillian traffic (in an emergency situation no less) would be a disaster.
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American ATC is still taught to do the paper strips as a backup and in locations where there is limited or no radar coverage (remember, the US still has some extensive wilderness areas).Starglider wrote:I don't know the details of that but I am pretty certain it is snake oil just on general principles. Automation has effectively eliminated the job of ATC assistant, who used to update the strips and generally do paperwork that is now done by computers.
Also, the US ATC computers are abysmally outdated. Seriously, it's unbelievable. Back when I was still able to get a tour of a control tower (pre 9/11) I saw stuff dating from the 1950's still in daily use in some cases.
It's different here in the US - while there are differences between military and civilian aviation it's pretty routine for there to be an overlap. Civilians routinely use military navigation beacons and vice versa. When traversing military airspace civilian pilots interact and follow the directions of military controllers. Military flights into civilian airspace will likewise interact with civilian control. (There's a famous recording of an O'Hare controller saying Air Force One I said HURRY UP! OK, he said "expedite", but that's what he meant.)By redundancy do you mean primary radar coverage from the military radar heads? That would not have helped here with damage to the equipment at the ATC center. Or did you mean the military used to have more capability to direct commercial traffic? If so I would also be surprised, because the UK attitude is that the military ATC job is so different having them suddenly try to handle civillian traffic (in an emergency situation no less) would be a disaster.
Of course, unlike many places in Europe the US has a much higher proportion of flights that aren't even required to talk to ATC. On a nice day like last Friday only about 20% of what's flying over the US is talking to ATC at all, the rest are flying on their own. That's in part because we have a lot more very lightly populated areas where that's safe to do. US pilots are a lot more likely to fly without ATC communications and a lot more likely to be comfortable doing so. So when the radar and radio went down the commercial air traffic probably sorted things out between themselves and moved immediately to non-radio non-ATC procedures. It's not ideal, and like I said, if the weather hadn't been that good it could have posed some hazard but if necessary US pilots can (and have) safely land at airports with complete power failures, or diverted to their already planned alternates.
It's also pretty well established these days that in an emergency pilots and ATC can communicate via cellphones even if that's not usually allowed, or even via text.
It's probably safe to say that the US ATC and the UK ATC are very different.
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Automated control has been under large scale flight tests in the US for over a decade, this is not snake oil in any sense. By 2025 most present day controller functions are to be taken over by automation and ADS-B, with pilots simply selecting whatever route is most direct to their destination, which is then broadcast to all surrounding pilots, and ground stations where computers look for conflicts. Human controllers will still exist, but the main job will be managing the takeoff and landing patterns as I already said and yelling at for pilots ignoring automatic warnings. This will allow the abolition of established flight corridors, leading to massive decongestion of airspace over most of the US. The resulting system will be impossible for for human controllers to manage in any traditional sense.
But that's the point, because the flight corridor system which is required for human operators to even remotely begin to do the job is also what makes the job so stressful and makes the risk of collisions so high. Most airspace is completely empty of large high altitude jets while hundreds of heavy planes are nose to tail on illogical narrow routes that waste billions of dollars a year. The problem is humans plain and simple. And while the system would not be ideal without the ground stations, it actually would still work reasonably safely.
As for military, most of the FAA controllers are ex military in the first place, and military towers have been called on to direct traffic in emergencies before besides controlling some limited chunks of airspace full time. And of course Ronald Reagan infamously fired the entire striking FAA controller staff and replaced them in no small part with military personal. However back then the US had far more military airbases, just about every major city had several in proximity, and so it was a much easier thing to deal with.
But that's the point, because the flight corridor system which is required for human operators to even remotely begin to do the job is also what makes the job so stressful and makes the risk of collisions so high. Most airspace is completely empty of large high altitude jets while hundreds of heavy planes are nose to tail on illogical narrow routes that waste billions of dollars a year. The problem is humans plain and simple. And while the system would not be ideal without the ground stations, it actually would still work reasonably safely.
As for military, most of the FAA controllers are ex military in the first place, and military towers have been called on to direct traffic in emergencies before besides controlling some limited chunks of airspace full time. And of course Ronald Reagan infamously fired the entire striking FAA controller staff and replaced them in no small part with military personal. However back then the US had far more military airbases, just about every major city had several in proximity, and so it was a much easier thing to deal with.
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I really have to question your assertion that most FAA controllers are ex-military. Perhaps just after WWII through the 1950's, even into the 1960's, but the vast majority I've encountered were all strictly civilian. I think it's like the meme that most commercial pilots are ex-military. No, they aren't, not since the late 1970's.
Anyhow - Mr. Howard appeared in court yesterday. His extended family turned out to support him. He apologized to his family, but not to the tens of thousands of people he severely inconvenienced. The government is arguing the act was pre-meditated with his Facebook post as evidence.
So, in addition to the fire that destroyed 23 of 29 computer racks running the ARTCC he apparently deliberately cut all the radar feeds and communication lines for the building. About the only thing he didn't do a bang-up job of destroying was his own self. Then again, he was a telecommunications specialist, not a self-harm specialist.
Link to article on Bloomberg which talks about his Facebook post:
The government really doesn't want the public to think of the ATC system being vulnerable. Of course it is. It's a complex system and by their nature complex systems are vulnerable to breakdown. There are ways to mitigate that vulnerability, but the government doesn't want to admit that no such action has been taken.
On the upside - as demonstrated by the aviation system sorting out traffic already in the air - there is a certain resilience in the system, in the human pilots themselves. That is, after all, why we still have humans in the cockpit, to deal with unforeseen and unlikely circumstances such as occurred. Everyone in the air landed safely, even if not at their planned destination.
I really think the government is, on a certain level, afraid of how the public will wind up perceiving this. Despite the background checks and the security some insider went nuts and set fire to an important part of a vulnerable and rickety system that is costing the airlines and the public hundreds of millions of dollars in lost revenue, unanticipated expenses, and a shitload of inconvenience. I think the truth is that you can't entirely eliminate the insider problem - someone can pass every background check, examination, and questioning at one point and at a later point have a change of mind/heart/attitude. People who work on the system know the system's vulnerabilities.
It comes down to the fact that the world is not an inherently safe place. We can do a lot to mitigate risk, but we can't entirely eliminate it.
The point has also been made that this isn't just about human actors. A truly accidental fire might have happened, or a major tornado could have hit the facility, or some other thing occur that would wipe out an ARTCC's ability to function. There's a lot of noise from the politicians about controlling the human factor - better screening, testing, security - but they're NOT talking about non-human risks.
There needs to be better back up for major parts of the system like ARTCCs
Why isn't that being discussed? Money? Stupidity? Both? We can beat up and tweak the human element all we want, that doesn't really fix the vulnerability here. It's not just a matter of making the current ARTCCs more robust, there needs to be better backup, probably reserve facilities. There has been too much centralizing in the name of efficiency. Yes, it is more efficient - until it isn't anymore. A robust and resilient system has redundancy. Aviation KNOWS this - that's why airliners have at least three parallel systems for critical things, like flight instruments and at least two live human pilots. It would be a shitload more efficient and cheap not to do this, but no airline manufacturer or airline is going to do that because shit really does happen in real life and that redundancy saves lives and money time and again.
The problem is that the aviation industry is not what is making decisions to build or not build various support facilities like ARTCCs. It's politics. That's why there is no funding, no redundancy, and way too much finger pointing.
Anyhow - Mr. Howard appeared in court yesterday. His extended family turned out to support him. He apologized to his family, but not to the tens of thousands of people he severely inconvenienced. The government is arguing the act was pre-meditated with his Facebook post as evidence.
So, in addition to the fire that destroyed 23 of 29 computer racks running the ARTCC he apparently deliberately cut all the radar feeds and communication lines for the building. About the only thing he didn't do a bang-up job of destroying was his own self. Then again, he was a telecommunications specialist, not a self-harm specialist.
Link to article on Bloomberg which talks about his Facebook post:
This has presented to the public as NOT terrorism, and generally only quoting the post from "take a good look in the mirror" line forward. This is the only instance I've found so far indicating he had something to say about the government. I think that interesting, because on reading more of the post I get a sense that, even if there was a mental breakdown aspect here there are also elements of a "lone wolf" act of sabotage. This wasn't just a suicide, it was a deliberate act to cause a big problem for others.The man charged with setting fire to a Chicago-area air-traffic facility, paralyzing travel through the city’s two major airports, was consumed by the U.S. government’s “immoral and unethical acts,” according to a Facebook message under his name.
The posting, which includes references to being under the influence of drugs, calls government workers “lazy and useless” and said the government “would rather take care of itself and the money in the world, definitely not its people.”
It was posted on the account of Brian Howard, 36, at about 5:36 a.m. local time yesterday, minutes before firefighters were called to the Federal Aviation Administration center in Aurora, Illinois.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation in a search-warrant affidavit yesterday quoted from the post, which it attributed to Howard, without mentioning the anti-government content. Bloomberg News received the complete message from a family member of one of Howard’s Facebook friends. The person who provided it asked not to be identified because he wasn’t authorized to release it.
Joan Hyde, an FBI spokeswoman in Chicago, said in an e-mail that the affidavit contained only a portion of the Facebook posting. She said she couldn’t comment on any passages beyond the excerpts contained in yesterday’s court document.
Howard, 36, of Naperville, Illinois, faces a single felony count of setting fire to an air-navigation facility, according to a copy of the criminal complaint filed in Chicago and provided by the FBI.
‘Hate Us’
The fire forced the evacuation of the control center, briefly shut down all arrivals and departures at O’Hare International Airport -- the second busiest U.S. hub -- and Midway Airport, and continued to hamper travel today.
Southwest Airlines Co., which has 90 percent of departures at Midway, canceled all flights there between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m. according to the Chicago Department of Aviation.
“WAKE UP!” said the message to those authorized to read what’s been identified as Howard’s Facebook page. “This is a gov’t by the people, for the people and of the people which right now equates to immoral and unethical acts. That’s why terrorists and 3rd world nations hate us, because our tax dollars go to more unrest than rest.”
“So we deserve the retribution from people who do not have the same ability for education, work and way of life,” the writer said.
“Take a hard look in the mirror, I have,” the poster continued in a portion of the message quoted by the FBI. “And this is why I am about to take out ZAU and my life.”
ZAU is the three-letter identifier for the FAA’s Chicago Air Route Center in Aurora, one of the busiest U.S. air traffic-control facilities, overseeing high-altitude traffic across four Midwest states that also include Indiana, Wisconsin and Iowa.
Blood Trail
When a paramedic responding to the fire found Howard after following a trail of blood, he was “in the process of actively slicing his throat” with one of at least three knives found in the basement area where the blaze occurred, according to the FBI affidavit.
Howard told paramedics who started treating him for his wounds to “leave me alone,” according to the affidavit.
The Facebook message suggested the damage to the nation’s aviation system wouldn’t be severe.
“The outage I’m about to take should not take a large toll on the air space as all comms should be switched to the alt location which will most likely cause some delays,” the message stated.
‘Stoned, Nervous’
“That being said, who knows what else will become a factor due to gov’t employees being in control of the upcoming situation. Many of them live up to exactly how they are viewed by the public, lazy and useless. But that is what I have come to observe of most US Citizens, lazy,” the writer said, referencing being “stoned and nervous.”
The note listed family members and closed with: “I love you guys and I am sorry. Leaving you with a big mess. Do your best to quickly move on from me please.”
“So I’m gonna smoke this blunt and move on, take care everyone,” the message said.
Howard, who worked on telecommunications, was employed at the control center for eight years and recently learned that he was being transferred to Hawaii, according to the criminal complaint.
He worked for FAA contractor Harris Corp., according to Jessica Cigich, a spokeswoman for the Professional Aviation Safety Specialists union. While PASS doesn’t represent Harris employees, it includes about 11,000 FAA employees, including some who maintain air-traffic equipment.
If convicted, he faces as long as 20 years in prison and a fine of as much as $250,000, Hyde said.
Surveillance Camera
Like other contract employees with access to FAA’s air-traffic facilities, Howard would have had to pass a background check, a government employee said in an e-mail. The official, who wasn’t authorized to talk about the agency’s security policies, asked not to be identified.
A surveillance camera showed Howard arriving at the control tower shortly after 5 a.m. carrying a hard-sided roller-board suitcase. The Facebook message, which an unidentified relative forwarded to police, was posted about 30 minutes later, according to the court filing.
At about 5:45 a.m., emergency personnel were notified of a fire at the control center, according to the complaint charging Howard.
Paramedics went to the basement of the control tower, where they followed smoke to a trail of blood that led to a floor panel which had been pulled away, exposing telecommunications cables and other wires, according to the filing. They also found a gasoline can and towels that had been soaked.
The government really doesn't want the public to think of the ATC system being vulnerable. Of course it is. It's a complex system and by their nature complex systems are vulnerable to breakdown. There are ways to mitigate that vulnerability, but the government doesn't want to admit that no such action has been taken.
On the upside - as demonstrated by the aviation system sorting out traffic already in the air - there is a certain resilience in the system, in the human pilots themselves. That is, after all, why we still have humans in the cockpit, to deal with unforeseen and unlikely circumstances such as occurred. Everyone in the air landed safely, even if not at their planned destination.
I really think the government is, on a certain level, afraid of how the public will wind up perceiving this. Despite the background checks and the security some insider went nuts and set fire to an important part of a vulnerable and rickety system that is costing the airlines and the public hundreds of millions of dollars in lost revenue, unanticipated expenses, and a shitload of inconvenience. I think the truth is that you can't entirely eliminate the insider problem - someone can pass every background check, examination, and questioning at one point and at a later point have a change of mind/heart/attitude. People who work on the system know the system's vulnerabilities.
It comes down to the fact that the world is not an inherently safe place. We can do a lot to mitigate risk, but we can't entirely eliminate it.
The point has also been made that this isn't just about human actors. A truly accidental fire might have happened, or a major tornado could have hit the facility, or some other thing occur that would wipe out an ARTCC's ability to function. There's a lot of noise from the politicians about controlling the human factor - better screening, testing, security - but they're NOT talking about non-human risks.
There needs to be better back up for major parts of the system like ARTCCs
Why isn't that being discussed? Money? Stupidity? Both? We can beat up and tweak the human element all we want, that doesn't really fix the vulnerability here. It's not just a matter of making the current ARTCCs more robust, there needs to be better backup, probably reserve facilities. There has been too much centralizing in the name of efficiency. Yes, it is more efficient - until it isn't anymore. A robust and resilient system has redundancy. Aviation KNOWS this - that's why airliners have at least three parallel systems for critical things, like flight instruments and at least two live human pilots. It would be a shitload more efficient and cheap not to do this, but no airline manufacturer or airline is going to do that because shit really does happen in real life and that redundancy saves lives and money time and again.
The problem is that the aviation industry is not what is making decisions to build or not build various support facilities like ARTCCs. It's politics. That's why there is no funding, no redundancy, and way too much finger pointing.
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. Leonard Nimoy.
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
Sam Vimes Theory of Economic Injustice
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
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Could've been worse, I guess. He could have walked into work with a handgun under his jacket and put a few bullets into his colleagues instead of just smashing up the works.
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