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WV Gazette wrote:Train Carrying Bakkan Crude Oil Derails

The fire from Monday’s derailment of a train carrying crude oil in Fayette County continued to burn Tuesday morning, and emergency shelters for hundreds of people who had to evacuate after the derailment remained open.

The CSX train, hauling 107 tank car loads of Bakken Shale crude oil from North Dakota to a terminal in Yorktown, Virginia, derailed in Adena Village near Mount Carbon and Deepwater about 1:30 p.m. Monday, setting at least one house ablaze and causing numerous tank cars to burn and explode. The train also included two cars of sand, which were used as buffers at either end.

A Fayette County emergency dispatcher said the fires continue to burn this morning.

Flames also burned power lines in the area, knocking out electricity to about 900 customers. Appalachian Power spokeswoman Jeri Matheney said electricity has not yet been restored because repair crews are having trouble accessing the extent of the damage.

About 2,400 people were evacuated or displaced by the train derailment, according to the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Officials in Fayette County set up emergency shelters Monday at Valley High School in Smithers and the Kimberly Community Center.

CSX spokesman Gary Sease said the railroad is working with the Red Cross and other relief organizations and has reserved hotel rooms for those displaced by the accident. The fire and resulting explosions forced the evacuations of Adena Village and Boomer, across the Kanawha River from the site of the derailment.

Sease said the outreach center will be available by telephone from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m today, at 1-877-835-5279 FREE.

The Federal Railroad Administration’s acting administrator, Sarah Feinberg, and chief safety officer, Robert Lauby, will survey the site of the derailment and fire, U.S. Department of Transportation spokeswoman Suzanne Emmerling said.

Investigators from the FRA and the Pipeline Hazardous Materials Safety Administration are already at the scene, and more staff are on the way, Emmerling said.

“Once the site is secured, officials will begin the investigation into the cause of the derailment,” she said.

Officials in the towns of Cedar Grove and Montgomery, downriver from the accident, were told to shut down their water intakes as a precaution. West Virginia American Water spokeswoman Laura Jordan said water company officials would decide Tuesday whether it’s safe to reopen the intakes.

One person was treated for smoke inhalation, officials said, but no other injuries were reported.

Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin declared a state of emergency in Fayette and Kanawha counties after the derailment.

Kanawha County Manager Jennifer Sayre said each of the tank cars in the CSX train that derailed held 33,000 gallons of oil.

In April 2014, a train carrying crude oil on the same North Dakota-Virginia route derailed in Lynchburg, Virginia. In July 2013, a 74-car train carrying Bakken Shale crude oil derailed in Quebec, Canada, setting off fires and explosions that killed 47 people.

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BBC AMERICA wrote:Fiery train crash forces West Virginia towns to evacuate
Two West Virginia towns have been evacuated after a freight train carrying crude oil derailed and burst into flames.

Local websites published images of large flames and a thick plume of black smoke near a partly frozen river.

At least 14 railway wagons were affected and one plunged into the Kanawha River, state officials said.

There are also reports that one crashed into a house, but there were no initial reports of fatalities.

Rail company CSX said in a statement that one person was being treated for potential inhalation, but no other injuries were reported.

Residents of Adena Village and Boomer have been urged to evacuate after the accident happened at 13:30 (18:30 GMT).

Darrin McGuffin, about a quarter of a mile from the scene, told the BBC the fire was still out of control late in the afternoon.

He estimated that about half a mile of the river was burning.
Lawrence Messina, of the State Department of Military Affairs and Public Safety, told the BBC that the wagon that fell into the river is leaking oil.

State emergency response and environmental officials headed to the scene - a rural coal-mining area near Montgomery.

West Virginia American Water shut down a water treatment plant, located three miles away, an hour after the derailment, spokeswoman Laura Jordan said. The plant serves about 2,000 customers.

The state was under a winter storm warning and getting heavy snowfall at times, with as much as five inches in some places. It is unclear whether the snow contributed to the crash.

The train consisted of two locomotives and 109 wagons and was travelling from North Dakota to Yorktown, Virginia.

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This is 30miles upstream from Charleston WV, the site of last year's chemical leak. Charleston's water supply comes from the Elk River, so even if the Kanawha is on fire when it gets down here, we'll still have water.

From what I've gathered, Bakkan Oil is a very volitile crude oil, well known for fires and explosions even when it's not involved in a train wreck. Thankfully, no one dead, only one house destroyed when the train engine plowed into it (the owner escaped in his skivvies, and is one mentioned being treated for inhalation), but the river and hillside are on fire.

As of right now, they have tested the Kanawha twice, and are doing a third test to see how contaminated the river is. So far, it's reading 'safe'.
My question is how many parts-per-whatever equals "SAFE", as the chemical spill last year supposedly had 'safe' levels before they realized no one KNEW what the 'safe' levels for that chemical were. Either way, the towns down stream that take their water from the Kanawha have closed their intakes and set up Bottled Water distribution centers.
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A bit of a sidestep. I remember comments from some railfanners when oil derailments starting to increase stating the safety concerns by politicians and the public were overblown and they were "attacking the railroads" and basically realizing or caring less about the human cost involved. They would go as far as not to read the articles about the "drivel", even if it was just about emergency services creating action plans and training regimes.

Anyway, some railroads have already enacted policies and fees to make the oil companies get rid of the troublesome DOT-111 cars sooner rather than later due to the cost of insuring such accidents, but from what I was told the rail car production companies have no real incentive to expand and speed up the process. Apparently rather than expand the manufacturing line and hire more workers, they would rather have a backlog of orders to ensure continuous production. Derailments in general have decreased, but with many unit oil trains rolling around, this certainly will not be the last one unfortunately.
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I'm glad nobody was hurt. With the weather being as bad as it was I'm surprised people could move so fast to escape danger and people respond to the crash. The weather being as bad as it was is why I'm not surprised there was a derailment. I honestly can't remember when we had this much snow, atleast not since I was in HS over a decade ago. Clearly all this snow means there is no global warming ;) .

Here's hoping that the water stays safe. In this weather water is already in danger of freezing off for many people with shitty pipes (like yours truly) but with the weather and roads as bad as they are it is very hard for people to make it out to water distribution centers as they did during the water contamination.

I've read online people talking about how this and the water contamination that WV must be cursed.
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Yeah, cursed with a lack of effective regulation FREEDOM.

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Now that just clearly shows how awesome we are. We don't need no stinking regulations, the Free Market will solve everything. Clearly with even less regulations the spill would have never happened because regulations made them have unsafe conditions and if it did happen people would have been able to sue Freedom Industries in the courts.
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CSX has stated all the cars are of the newer model and the NTSB thought they still sucked last year. Looks like they were right.

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Let's have a look at the list of train accidents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ra ... present%29), just counting derailments that *happened*, not ones due to crashes into other vehicles or obstructions on the rails (like landslides).

Just 2014 till now:

China 1
Indonesia 1
D.R. of Congo 1
Netherlands 1
Russia 2
India 2
Canada 4
USA 18

Of the Canadian/US cases, almost all were either a UN-PAC, CN, NS, or CSX train carrying freight.

There is quite a pattern here.
Probably another aspect of the endemic problem of rotting infrastructure of public infrastructure.
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Looking further back, it seems that the Trend has started in 2012/2013, when it started do go from ~5 incidents a year, almost doubling to 8, and reaching a peak of 16 in 2014, doubling again. This year is looking to be similar to 2014, in the low tens if the trend continues...

Was there some change in regulations this could be attributed to, or is this simply a thing of the state of the tracks/cars finally eroding to the tipping point?
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Joun_Lord wrote:Now that just clearly shows how awesome we are. We don't need no stinking regulations, the Free Market will solve everything. Clearly with even less regulations the spill would have never happened because regulations made them have unsafe conditions and if it did happen people would have been able to sue Freedom Industries in the courts.
I realize this wasn't a serious argument, but what would you have sued them for without regulations in the first place?
LaCroix wrote:Was there some change in regulations this could be attributed to, or is this simply a thing of the state of the tracks/cars finally eroding to the tipping point?
That would make a fair bit of sense.
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LaCroix wrote:Of the Canadian/US cases, almost all were either a UN-PAC, CN, NS, or CSX train carrying freight.

There is quite a pattern here.
Probably another aspect of the endemic problem of rotting infrastructure of public infrastructure.
Yes, they are the class I railroads of North America of which also includes Kansas City Southern, BNSF, and Canadian Pacific. Most of the tracks and bridges used by freight railroads are owned and maintained by them, but there is certainly a backlog of infrastructure upkeep despite the billions of dollars they spend. Federal inspectors are also too few in number to inspect it all as well to enforce repairs.
LaCroix wrote:Looking further back, it seems that the Trend has started in 2012/2013, when it started do go from ~5 incidents a year, almost doubling to 8, and reaching a peak of 16 in 2014, doubling again. This year is looking to be similar to 2014, in the low tens if the trend continues...

Was there some change in regulations this could be attributed to, or is this simply a thing of the state of the tracks/cars finally eroding to the tipping point?
As I wrote before, derailments in general have decreased, but there has been a massive increases in trains carrying oil in the past half decade or so. So it is more by probability that we see these incidents occur.
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Adamskywalker007 wrote:
Joun_Lord wrote:Now that just clearly shows how awesome we are. We don't need no stinking regulations, the Free Market will solve everything. Clearly with even less regulations the spill would have never happened because regulations made them have unsafe conditions and if it did happen people would have been able to sue Freedom Industries in the courts.
I realize this wasn't a serious argument, but what would you have sued them for without regulations in the first place?
The Free Market would have allowed them to sue. Whats that you say about bought judges, laws written by corporations, and a government to powerless to enforce any contract violations that manage to come to light? Look at the jingling keys! LOOK AT THEM! The keys are the Free Market. And that answers your question.


Seriously though, I wasn't being serious. I may be a nut of some things but I'm certainly no Free Market nut. An unfettered Free Market is alot of bad ju-ju that will make any problems like WV has been hit with far, FAR worse. A nightmarish Any Randian nightmare world with the Free Market being king is almost as hostile towards the environment as it is towards poor people, elderly, and disabled. As a person who lives in an area with alot of environment, poor people, elderly, and disabled I have an inkling of how that scenario would play out and it would be terrible.
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WV GAZETTE wrote:Thursday, February 19, 2015
Update: Fires continue to hamper derailment probe

Fires continue to burn at the site of Monday’s oil-train derailment in Fayette County, hampering federal investigators as they try to begin in earnest the work of figuring out what caused the incident.

“There are still fires ongoing,” Sarah Feinberg, acting director of the U.S. Department of Transportation’s Federal Railroad Administration, said this morning. “One that previously went out re-ignited overnight.”

Feinberg said that officials have opted to let the crude-oil fires burn themselves out, rather than using firefighting foam, out of concern that the foam, when mixed with water, would carry contaminants downhill into the Kanawha River. Coast Guard officials are considering other types of chemical firefighting treatments that might help stop the blazes more quickly, she said.

“It’s very much under control,” Feinberg said. “But it’s taking too long. We’re looking at some other ways to get those out so we can move on ... we’re trying to move as expeditiously as we can so we can move on to the real investigation.”

Also this morning, National Transportation Safety Board officials said their agency’s investigators are expected on the ground today at the derailment site.

“We are not planning to lead the investigation, but we are sending investigators to get an idea of how this accident may compare to others we have investigated and gather any other information that may be pertinent to safety on the rails,” said NTSB spokesman Keith Holloway.

The NTSB has put improved safety in the rail transportation of crude oil on its “Most Wanted List,” and called for better tankers and better planning of routes.

“One of the first steps industry can take is to appropriately plan and select routes to minimize the amount of hazardous materials that travel through highly populated areas,” the NTSB said. “And the use of rail technologies such as positive train control can help keep the train on the track.”

The NTSB had previously indicated that it would not be doing on-the-ground work in Fayette County.

The CSX train, which included 107 rail cars carrying crude oil from North Dakota to Virginia, derailed between Mount Carbon and Deepwater on Monday afternoon.

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WV GAZETTE wrote:Man outruns train derailment: ‘The house was blowing up behind me’

BOOMER — It’s rare a man can say he’s glad his wife is in the hospital, but it’s also not every day a train destroys his home.

Morris Bounds said his wife was supposed to come home over the weekend, but she stayed hospitalized Monday after her open-heart surgery involving four major bypasses. He’s also thankful that 15 loved ones, including grandsons, had left his Adena Village home in Fayette County the day before.

Bounds had been cleaning in anticipation of his wife’s return when, for some reason the shaken man can’t recall, he decided to go into the kitchen. He’s also glad for that, because he had a straight shot out the door when he heard a loud noise, “knew something was wrong” and looked out the window to see CSX tanker cars barreling toward him.

“I had to run out in my sock feet, no belongings whatsoever,” the 68-year-old, who’s now staying at his brother Homer’s house in Ansted, said in a phone interview.

If he were in any other room, Bounds believes, he would’ve died.

“I’ve got a bad back and bad knees and, sometimes, I can’t even walk,” Bounds said, “but the good Lord gave me strength.”

Many details about the train derailment, which occurred at edge of the Kanawha River on Monday afternoon, remain unclear, including the cause of the incident and how long it might take to clean up the area. CSX spokeswoman Melanie Cost said 27 tank cars, each carrying a possible 30,000 gallons of Bakken Shale crude oil, went off the tracks. The other cars in the more than 109-car train have been moved away.

Cost said the company hoped on Wednesday to begin placing eight of the derailed cars back on the tracks and inspecting them to see if they’re OK. The other 19 have either been punctured, caught fire or were near the fire and possibly affected by it, although she said she couldn’t describe exactly how many tankers were affected in each way because CSX is still waiting for the fires in the area to go out.

“That’s the safest thing for the community and the responders themselves,” she said of letting the fires burn. She said CSX chose not to try to fight the fires with a water/foam mixture for fear that would send oil into waterways and further contaminate the environment.

Bounds said he doesn’t know if it was a tank car, as some reports have stated, that smashed his home of 25 years or the large piece of rail that now lies where the house once stood. He said tankers did crash into his garage.

He said most of his yard was engulfed in flames when he ran out but that there was a path through the snow to safety. He said he probably made it 10 feet out the house before it exploded.

“The house was blowing up behind me,” he said. “The walls were coming in.”

Carl Rose said he saw Bounds run out of his home, barely missing the flames and tank cars, which were still derailing as he fled. He said spilled oil formed a horseshoe of fire around the house.

“The cars were still shooting off the track as he was running out his front door,” Rose said.

Rose, 41, of Cincinnati, Ohio, grew up in the nearby community of Gauley Bridge and was visiting his mother, Shirley, in Boomer Bottom, on the day of the crash.

Shirley Rose, 75, lives across the Kanawha from the derailment site, where reporters haven’t been allowed. From her porch on Wednesday, the family could see workers move about as some plumes of black and gray smoke still rose above charred trees, about the same color as the cluster of tanker cars.

The snow — which on Wednesday ranged from light flurries to whiteout downfalls — dusted the pile of black tankers, some of which tilted over the slope of the hill. A piece of track was bent down the incline toward the river, much of which was covered in ice and snow like the surrounding mountains.

Yellow containment booms were set in the river as a precaution, Cost said. She said it’s unclear how much oil might have leaked and the West Virginia Department of Environmental Protection has not indicated that any oil made it into the river or connecting Armstrong Creek. Contrary to prior reports, she said no tank cars entered either the river or the creek.

Vacuum trucks were recovering oil from the scene Wednesday.

Carl Rose, his mother, his 8-year-old daughter, Maddie, and a nephew, Louis, were looking out the windows on the frigid Monday afternoon of the incident at the ice floes in the Kanawha. They saw the train coming and disappear into a patch of woods.

“I said, ‘I can’t see it coming out of those trees,’ ” Rose recalled. “And, of course, it wasn’t.”

Instead, he saw the cars coming off the tracks as trees shook and snow flew.

It’s unclear how many people were displaced by the incident, which witnesses said caused explosions throughout Monday night. Cost said CSX is aware of 100-125 people evacuated who aren’t yet allowed to return to their homes. Although shelters initially had been opened, she said the evacuees are all now in hotel rooms that CSX is renting for them. They’re also being provided with food, medicine, pet care and other resources.

Boomer volunteer firefighter Tyler Holcomb, who also lives in Boomer Bottom and said the fire plume was taller than the mountain behind it, said there also was a temporary evacuation of the more than 100 residents of Boomer Bottom. He said most people returned home Tuesday.

Cost said water has been restored to all residents in the area now that West Virginia American Water has reopened the water intake for its Montgomery treatment plant, which serves 2,000 customers. She expected the routine boil-water advisory to be lifted as of Wednesday afternoon.

Bounds said he didn’t know so many people had “good hearts” until the derailment and fire took almost everything from him. People have been offering him help, he said.

“Not a thing left. Not one thing,” Bounds said. “Just the clothes on my back and sock feet.”

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One thing is nagging at me. Why've we heard nothing about the engineer and train crew? Where are they?
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And the lawsuits begin ---
WV GAZETTE wrote:CSX, water company sued over train derailment and response

Two Fayette County restaurants and two shareholders in those restaurants sued CSX and West Virginia American Water Company on Wednesday, two days after a train carrying crude oil derailed, caught fire and exploded in western Fayette County, leaving hundreds of residents and businesses temporarily without water.

Franco’s Pizzeria; Not Frank’s Pizza; Todd Webb, and Barry Blackburn, all of Fayette County, are named as plaintiffs in the lawsuit, which asks to be granted class-action status on behalf of thousands of people who were displaced or left without water. Webb is an official of Franco’s, and Blackburn is an official of Not Frank’s, according to the secretary of state’s website.

The lawsuit claims CSX and a subsidiary company, CSX Transportation, were negligent in their operation of the train, which was carrying 107 tank cars with Bakken Shale crude oil. The train derailed between Mount Carbon and Deepwater on Monday.

Between 14 and 17 of the tanker cars derailed, spilling thousands of gallons of highly flammable Bakken crude oil onto the ground and into the Kanawha River, the lawsuit alleges. One house was also set ablaze, and about 200 families had to be evacuated from the area.

When West Virginia American Water shut off the intake to its Montgomery treatment plant, the water company didn’t have a reasonable amount of water reserve in its system, the lawsuit alleges. As a result, water service was interrupted for Montgomery, Smithers, Cannelton, London, Handley and Hughes Creek.

Laura Jordan, spokeswoman for the water company, said the company was aware of the lawsuit but had not yet analyzed its allegations. The company responded quickly to the incident in Fayette County, she said.

Melanie Cost, a spokeswoman for CSX in West Virginia, couldn’t be reached late Wednesday afternoon.

Earlier Wednesday, the water company said in a statement that tank levels in the Montgomery system indicated that all customers had water service restored. The entire system remained under a boil-water advisory as of late Wednesday afternoon.

The plaintiffs have suffered damages from the loss of “normal personal pursuits,” business activities and opportunities, among other things, the lawsuit states.

The lawsuit was filed in Fayette Circuit Court by attorneys James Peterson, R. Edison Hill, Aaron Harrah, Anthony Majestro, Timothy Bailey, Mark Burney and Anthony Salvatore. It has been assigned to Circuit Judge John Hatcher.

The lawsuit is brought on behalf of all people and businesses who are customers of West Virginia American Water in the affected areas, and could consist of more than 100,000 members, attorneys wrote in the complaint.

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