PM: Extra sniffer dogs and fencing to be sent to Calais

[EnterpriseSovereign]

Extra sniffer dogs and fencing will be sent to France and Ministry of Defence land will be used to ease congestion to try to help deal with the Calais migrant crisis, David Cameron has announced.

The pledge follows a further night of disruption in Calais in which hundreds of migrants, including children, attempted to gain access to the Channel Tunnel.

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It's gonna take a hell of a lot more than that to deal with this problem.

[Dartzap]

Ayup. And him calling them a 'swarm' won't help either.

The French will be demanding we let them In somewhat louder if it carries on. Can't say I blame them either.

[Thanas]

How about the UK finally pull their weight and help their partner in the refugee crisis they largely created themselves with their intervention in Libya?

[EnterpriseSovereign]

There are calls to "sort out the situation in their home countries", which is grossly oversimplifying the causes. The French don't exactly have much interest in keeping the migrants from leaving to reach the UK- looking at the geography of the Mediterranean I have to wonder how effective the French border controls are against the immigrants coming in from places like Italy.

[madd0ct0r]

Why would Cameron want to change the situation? He literally has the brown hordes at the gates, every jack boot in the UK will be will be doing high kicks to keep the tories in power.

[Sea Skimmer]

How about the UK finally pull their weight and help their partner in the refugee crisis they largely created themselves with their intervention in Libya?

France in fact flew the most combat sorties of anyone in Libya including the US, and fired the most naval gunfire, and dropped the first bombs and without notice to any other state of doing so.

[Thanas]

How about the UK finally pull their weight and help their partner in the refugee crisis they largely created themselves with their intervention in Libya?

France in fact flew the most combat sorties of anyone in Libya including the US, and fired the most naval gunfire, and dropped the first bombs and without notice to any other state of doing so.

Does that absolve the UK of their responsibility, especially when France is taking in more than double the numbers of the UK right now?

EDIT: Absolve, not involve.

[Zaune]

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[Simon_Jester]

How about the UK finally pull their weight and help their partner in the refugee crisis they largely created themselves with their intervention in Libya?

France in fact flew the most combat sorties of anyone in Libya including the US, and fired the most naval gunfire, and dropped the first bombs and without notice to any other state of doing so.

Does that absolve the UK of their responsibility, especially when France is taking in more than double the numbers of the UK right now.

It does not, but it does raise questions as to the thought process required to say the British "largely created" the refugee crisis when they didn't even do a plurality of the shooting.

Suppose me and a bunch of friends carry bags of gravel from the car. I carry four of them, while a few friends carry five or six, and a few other friends carry two or three. Now there is a crisis related to all this gravel being in the wrong place. Can someone say I "largely carried" the gravel? Would that be fair, accurate, or unbiased?

Certainly I should take a share of the responsibility in solving the crisis. It might even be fitting and proper that I take a share of responsibility equal to that of those who did more than I. After all, I didn't object, and it may well be that they did more than me purely because it was in their power to do more, not because they somehow 'caused' the problem.

But it is, as a matter of brute fact, untrue that I "largely created" the crisis, if I didn't even do a plurality of the work, let alone a majority.

[Thanas]

It does not, but it does raise questions as to the thought process required to say the British "largely created" the refugee crisis when they didn't even do a plurality of the shooting.

They certainly were in the top three of air strikes. Of the European nations, Britain and France were the instigators. Only one of these nations is now refusing to own up to their part in it. Whether the British had 30% or 25% of the strikes does not matter and anybody who claims it does is ignoring the main point, which is that the UK loves creating chaos but slinks out whenever it comes to dealing with the effects of the chaos.

EDIT: And the data isn't that clear cut either, UK for example flew more sorties than France did under the NATO umbrella.

[cosmicalstorm]

The more people they accept, the more will be coming in a few months. Africa is going to produce a billion additional humans in the next decade. For all its worth the UK could run a shuttle service of trains and planes around the clock and that would not put more than a dent in it.

[Zaune]

The more people they accept, the more will be coming in a few months. Africa is going to produce a billion additional humans in the next decade. For all its worth the UK could run a shuttle service of trains and planes around the clock and that would not put more than a dent in it.

Does that excuse us refusing to do what we can for these people?

[Simon_Jester]

The "billion in a decade" figure is a considerable exaggeration based on the cursory research I've been able to do (the UN is predicting more like half that). I don't know where you got that number from, cosmicalstorm.

That said, there's a valid point there. Africa's population is growing very rapidly and will continue to do so for at least another generation or two. It will not be possible for all, or even most, of the growing population of teenage and twenty-something Africans to seek better economic opportunities on other continents.

That's a reality that will have consequences for the entire human species over the next 20-30 years and beyond, and cosmicalstorm wasn't wrong to mention it, and it should be addressed, I think.

What cosmicalstorm overlooks is that the current situation is NOT so simple as "all the African population boom babies are coming to Europe." The vast majority of the young Africans making up this population boom are staying in their native countries, even when those countries become massively overpopulated, even when economic opportunities in those countries are extremely sparse.

Overpopulation is not the direct cause of the refugee movements.

The refugees tend to come from specific individual countries that are undergoing intense warfare or disturbances. They're coming from the Ukraine (many of those go to Russia)... which should be white enough even for cosmicalstorm. They're coming from Iraq and Syria, which aren't African countries, though again, many of those refugees go to Turkey, not to Europe. But many of the Syrian refugees instead flee into the Mediterranean and come ashore in Greece, or possibly in other European countries.

Refugees are also coming from Afghanistan, another Middle Eastern country that isn't particularly recognizable as 'African' unless one adopts really weird and incorrect racial theories. I fondly hope cosmicalstorm does not adopt such theories.

They're also coming from Eritrea, which is African... and a brutal dictatorship, hence the refugee issues. And from Libya, though that was not specifically mentioned in the UNHCR report... but both Eritrea and Libya are in a real sense ethnically as much a part of the Arab world as they are of 'Africa.'

So there is NOT a demographic flood of sub-Saharan Africans pouring into Europe. And that may never happen.

The current refugee problem has more to do with a series of wars, brutal and incompetent governments, and civil wars wracking the Muslim world, specifically. One may argue that one of the root causes of all that violence is the combination of stagnant economies and rapidly growing populations, but this is a more subtle argument and not the one cosmicalstorm is advancing.

Since he appears to be basing his ideas on the assumption that it is simply a matter of Africa trying to export its 'surplus population' to Europe.

[cosmicalstorm]

Large parts of Africa and the middle east are terribly broken due to a large number of problems like resource based economy, centuries of british, US and communistic divide and conquer based imperialistic intervention, religious zealotry, women viewed as walking wombs, population explosion, rampant environmental destruction like desertification, socialist experimentation and god knows what else. I don't expect it to be calm in a long time.

Not broken because of inferior genetics. Definetly a lot of broken culture though but is that cause or effect?

Start using all this military infrastructure for something useful, literally bomb entire countries with dollarbills, condoms, schoolbooks, family planning, deworming pills, HIV meds, mosquito nets, give them free internet, do whatever is the most effective thing to help them with rampant corruption. Fuck all french farmers and scrap every artificial trade barrier.

Instead of these things that would service hundreds of millions we will accept AT BEST a few million mostly young men into the Euro zone. They will be enough to politically destabilize Europe. They will launch nationalists into power and end the entire welfaresystem in some countries.

Any efficient foreign aid to compensate for our colonial past?

Forget about that.
Sweden is already, under socialist rule, nixing that to pay the run away rocket that is asylum related costs.

The weird mix of nationalists and Hizb'Tahir parties who will rule Europe of the next decade will scrap it.

[Metahive]

Come together, children! It's storytime again! Today Cosmical Ali tells us all how them dang' dirty furriners are going to flood in and bring ruin to us all here in our shining city on the hill!


*bleh, but he told that same story last week!*

*shut up, under Sharia Law I can totally stone you to death for this, Inshallah!*

[cosmicalstorm]

Do give me the version of European politics for the next decade that you believe will come true, Metahive.

This board might still be here, if we are alive and can remember, we can go back here and see who was closest to the truth

As I said, this whole open borders dream is probably not going to work out very well. It's certainly going to lose political support rapidly in the next couple of elections.

[Ziggy Stardust]

The "billion in a decade" figure is a considerable exaggeration based on the cursory research I've been able to do (the UN is predicting more like half that). I don't know where you got that number from, cosmicalstorm.

Well, he is either just lying through his teeth, or getting the numbers mixed-up that he saw on a cursory Google search to validate his pre-conceived opinion.

The common projection is that the African continent will add another billion to its population by 2050. Which, as you can quickly figure out, is more than a decade from now. UN projections for a decade a now range from an increase of about 200,000 to an increase of about 350,000. However, there is a large degree of uncertainty built into these figures. Even beyond natural statistical questions like how to accurately predict the trends in life-expectancy and fertility rates on a rapidly but unevenly developing continent, there's the problem that even current estimates of the population size are based on incredibly uncertain projections. Many African countries do not conduct reliably censuses: Eritrea, Sudan, and D.R. Congo haven't even conducted a national census in the past decade. Angola has only conducted two census in the past thirty years. There are some claims that Nigeria hasn't had a single valid or accurate census in its entire history as a nation (differences between different estimates of the country's population in 2000 alone vary by more than 20 million!).

[Simon_Jester]

The "billion in a decade" figure is a considerable exaggeration based on the cursory research I've been able to do (the UN is predicting more like half that). I don't know where you got that number from, cosmicalstorm.

Well, he is either just lying through his teeth, or getting the numbers mixed-up that he saw on a cursory Google search to validate his pre-conceived opinion.

I did a cursory Google search... and got a figure of about half a billion by 2025 or so, based on some rough calculations.

Of course, cosmicalstorm purely stinks when it comes to correctly evaluating secondary sources and applying the implications of those sources logically.

[Just because I think his point that the African population is growing rapidly and that it could easily generate more refugees than Europe can assimilate is legitimate and merited a response, doesn't mean I respect him]

The common projection is that the African continent will add another billion to its population by 2050. Which, as you can quickly figure out, is more than a decade from now. UN projections for a decade a now range from an increase of about 200,000 to an increase of about 350,000.

I assume you mean to tack another three zeroes onto those numbers?

[Interesting point in the rest of the post about how many African nations do not conduct accurate censuses on a regular basis]

[Ziggy Stardust]

Yes, that should be 200 and 350 million, respectively. I was tired.

[Metahive]

Do give me the version of European politics for the next decade that you believe will come true, Metahive.

This board might still be here, if we are alive and can remember, we can go back here and see who was closest to the truth

As I said, this whole open borders dream is probably not going to work out very well. It's certainly going to lose political support rapidly in the next couple of elections.

*breaks out magic crystal ball*

I see...mosques, terrible mosques everywhere, flying the Green Svastika Flag of the Hitlerprophet! Everyone is brown and praying to strange gods! IA IA Chtulallah ftaghn Heil!

OMG, you were totally right! I'm off...off to convert to Nazislam, I want to play for the winning team after all.

/taking the piss

Instead of these things that would service hundreds of millions we will accept AT BEST a few million mostly young men into the Euro zone. They will be enough to politically destabilize Europe. They will launch nationalists into power and end the entire welfaresystem in some countries. [...]

The weird mix of nationalists and Hizb'Tahir parties who will rule Europe of the next decade will scrap it.

Okay, everyone pay attention to especially this genius lines here and soak in the vast amounts of fail. To sum it up Nazi 2.0 and ISE (Islamic State of Europastan) will (jointly?) rule the West because Europe is busy accepting ever growing hordes refugees instead of spending money to fix all the problems in Africa and the Middle East forever. I especially like how totally not naive this line of thought is and how Cosmical Ali is totally right in thinking that saying that he's afraid of the Right Wing will somehow obscure how he's spouting PEGIDA propaganda non-stop. /sarcasm

[K. A. Pital]

To be fair, even if he buys the PEGIDA shit, doesn't mean he can't be concerned about it getting power. Buying nationalist propaganda does not necessarily means wanting them to be in power. He could really be afraid of them in power (ignoring for the time being the realism of that).

[cosmicalstorm]

Here is another outbreak of my feverish imagination

Police Warn of No-Go Zones in Germany

by Soeren Kern
August 1, 2015 at 5:00 am
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6264/ ... es-germany

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"There are districts where immigrant gangs are taking over entire metro trains for themselves. Native residents and business people are being intimidated and silenced... The reasons for this: the high rate of unemployment, the lack of job prospects for immigrants without qualifications for the German labor market and ethnic tensions among migrants." — Der Spiegel.

"Every police commissioner and interior minister will deny it. But of course we know where we can go with the police car....[O]ur colleagues can no longer feel safe there in twos, and have to fear becoming the victim of a crime themselves. We know that these areas exist. Even worse: in these areas, crimes no longer result in charges. They are left to themselves. Only in the worst cases do we in the police learn anything about it. The power of the state is completely out of the picture." — Bernhard Witthaut, Chief Police Commissioner of Germany.

"The gangs traffic in heroin and cocaine, run brothels or are active in the contraband smuggling business. The brutality with which they carry out their activities has made them very powerful, the police are afraid of them. The state is passive with respect to these clans, the politicians ignore the phenomenon... This negligence has, over the years, enabled the emergence of a criminal parallel society. This would not have happened if the authorities had acted early and decisively." — Der Spiegel.

"When I say that steps must be taken to ensure immigrants comply with rules and regulations, I'm immediately branded as a far right extremist. But order is exactly what is needed." — Volker Mosblech, Duisburg City Councilman.

Spiraling levels of violent crime perpetrated by immigrants from the Middle East and the Balkans are turning parts of Duisburg, a key German industrial city, into "areas of lawlessness" — areas that are becoming de facto "no-go" zones for police, according to a confidential police report that was leaked to the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel.

The report, produced by the police headquarters of North Rhine-Westphalia, the most populous state of Germany (and also the state with the largest Muslim population in Germany), warns that the government is losing control over problem neighborhoods and that the ability of police to maintain public order "cannot be guaranteed over the long term."

Duisburg, which has a total population of around 500,000, is home to an estimated 60,000 mostly Turkish Muslims, making it one of the most Islamized cities in Germany. In recent years, however, thousands of Bulgarians and Romanians (including Sinti and Roma "gypsies") have flocked to Duisburg, creating a volatile ethno-religious cauldron.

According to Der Spiegel:

"There are districts where immigrant gangs are taking over entire metro trains for themselves. Native residents and business people are being intimidated and silenced. People taking trams during the evening and nighttime describe their experiences as 'living nightmares.' Policemen, and especially policewomen, are subject to 'high levels of aggressiveness and disrespect.'

"In the medium term, nothing will change, according to the report. The reasons for this: the high rate of unemployment, the lack of job prospects for immigrants without qualifications for the German labor market and ethnic tensions among migrants. The Duisburg police department now wants to reinforce its presence on the streets and track offenders more consistently.

"Experts have warned for some time that problem neighborhoods could become no-go areas. The president of the German Police Union, Rainer Wendt, told Spiegel Online years ago: 'In Berlin or in the north of Duisburg there are neighborhoods where colleagues hardly dare to stop a car — because they know that they'll be surrounded by 40 or 50 men.' These attacks amount to a 'deliberate challenge to the authority of the state — attacks in which the perpetrators are expressing their contempt for our society.'"

The leak of the document comes amid a spike in attacks on police by mobs of immigrants, not only in Duisburg, but across the country.

In the Duisburg neighborhood of Marxloh, for example, a horde of Lebanese immigrants on June 29 attacked two police officers who were attempting to arrest two men for smoking cannabis on a public sidewalk. Within minutes, the officers were surrounded by more than 100 men who tried to prevent the arrests from taking place. Ten squad cars and dozens of police reinforcements were required to rescue the two officers.

Also in Marxloh, two men who got into a fight on June 24 used their cellphones to call their friends for backup support. Within minutes, more than 300 people had gathered at the scene. At least 100 police officers attempted to separate the two groups, but the mob quickly turned on the police. According to Duisburg police spokesperson Ramon van der Maat, "It happens time and time again, we are called to an incident that at first does not seem so bad. But then we need nine, ten or eleven police cars to restore order."

In Gelsenkirchen, another city in North Rhine-Westphalia, two police officers on July 24 tried to pull over a driver who ran a stoplight. The driver got out of the car and attempted to flee on foot. When police caught up with him, more than 50 people appeared from virtually nowhere to prevent the suspect's arrest. A 15-year-old attacked a policeman from behind and began strangling him, rendering him unconscious. Massive amounts of police reinforcements and pepper spray were needed to bring the situation under control.

In Berlin, some 30 members of rival immigrant gangs got into a fight on June 24 outside a nightclub in the Neukölln district of Berlin. After police arrived, the mob began attacking the officers. More than 60 police officers were needed to restore order.

Also in Berlin, dozens of police officers were deployed to break up a brawl between 50 members of two rival immigrant families at a public playground in Neukölln on June 4. The melee began when two young boys got into a fight, which quickly spiraled out of control after adult family members got involved on behalf of each of the boys.

One day earlier, more than 90 police officers were deployed to break up a fight between 70 members of rival immigrant clans at a public playground in Moabit, an inner city neighborhood in Berlin. The fight began when two women got into an argument over a man, and turned violent after more and more family members got involved. Two police officers were injured.

On June 8, more than 50 police officers were deployed to break up a brawl at a wedding reception for Bosnian immigrants in the Tempelhof district of Berlin. The melee began when two wedding guests got into an argument that led to fisticuffs. Within moments, more than a dozen other people joined in. As soon as the police arrived, however, the rival clans stopped fighting each other and began attacking the officers. One of the wedding guests hit a police officer over the head with a chair; the officer was critically wounded. Other officers were attacked with bottles, while still others were spit upon and verbally abused.

In an interview with the German newsmagazine Focus, the head of the police union in North Rhine-Westphalia, Arnold Plickert, warned of the emergence of no-go zones in the cities of Cologne, Dortmund, Duisburg and Essen. "Several rival rocker groups as well as Lebanese, Turkish, Romanian and Bulgarian clans are fighting for supremacy of the streets," he said. "They make their own rules; here the police have nothing more to say."

In an August 2011 interview with the newspaper Der Westen, Bernhard Witthaut, Chief Police Commissioner of Germany, revealed that immigrants have been imposing "no-go" zones in German cities at an alarming rate.

The interviewer asked Witthaut: "Are there urban areas — for example in the Ruhr — districts and housing blocks that are 'no-go areas,' meaning that they can no longer be secured by the police?" Witthaut replied:

"Every police commissioner and interior minister will deny it. But of course we know where we can go with the police car and where, even initially, only with the personnel carrier. The reason is that our colleagues can no longer feel safe there in twos, and have to fear becoming the victim of a crime themselves. We know that these areas exist. Even worse: in these areas, crimes no longer result in charges. They are left to themselves. Only in the worst cases do we in the police learn anything about it. The power of the state is completely out of the picture."

The threat posed by immigrant clans has been growing for many years. In October 2010, Der Spiegel published an article — "Large Arab Families: The State Cowers in Fear of Criminal Clans" — which warned of the emergence in Germany of a "parallel society of criminality" run by "immigrant mafia clans with thousands of members" who are "taking advantage of legal loopholes, social welfare services and international contacts with dominant organized crime groups." The article said the state was helpless to confront the problem because German authorities were "pussyfooting around."

According to Der Spiegel:

"The gangs traffic in heroin and cocaine, run brothels or are active in the contraband smuggling business. The brutality with which they carry out their activities has made them very powerful, the police are afraid of them. The state is passive with respect to these clans, the politicians ignore the phenomenon.

"This negligence has, over the years, enabled the emergence of a criminal parallel society. This would not have happened if the authorities had acted early and decisively: As early as 2004, a Commission of the Federal Criminal Police (BKA) warned that the ethnic groups were out of control and also warned about the so-called Mhallamiye-Kurds [an Arab-speaking ethnic group with roots in southern Anatolia], including the Bremen-based clan known as Family M.

"At the time, special investigators from federal and state governments criticized the lack of any efforts at integration and attacked the German judiciary. It was said that due to misconceived tolerance, the courts exacerbated the problems with their persistent lenience.

"The report warned of 'insular ethnic subcultures that were already firmly established under considerable abuse of the existing weaknesses of the federal government's immigration and asylum law.'

"Today these criminal structures are so entrenched that they 'could only be partially dismantled,' and this only with the support and cooperation of 'all relevant authorities, judicial assistance and the expansion of criminal tactical investigative measures.' In other words: actually never."

The article reveals that some delinquents possess more than a dozen different identities, and that it is common for them to continue collecting social welfare benefits because German privacy laws prevent police from being informed of a suspect's whereabouts.

According to a police investigator interviewed by Der Spiegel, the immigrant clans "view German society as one to be plundered; they see us as born losers." This is unlikely to change anytime soon, he added, because there are nearly 1,000 children in the clans in Bremen alone.

In her book titled "The End of Patience," the late German juvenile court judge Kirsten Heisig warned about the growing danger posed by the so-called ethno-clans:

"A family, father, mother, 10 to 15 children, in some cases up to 19 children, emigrated from Lebanon. Some children were born in the 'homeland,' others in Germany. Before the mothers give birth to their last child, they already have grandchildren. Therefore, a clan increases at breathtaking speed. In official documents, the nationality of the families is given as 'stateless,' 'unknown,' 'Lebanese' or increasingly 'German.' It refers to government social welfare transfers and child benefits.

"An extended family easily generates hundreds of police investigations. If drug trafficking or other illegal transactions intrude on the turf of a rival clan or even of gangs from different ethnic backgrounds, the problem is solved by killing each other, or at least attempting to do so.

"The female family members are focused predominantly on theft while the males commit crimes from all sectors of the Penal Code: drug and property crimes, threats, robbery, extortion, bodily harm, sexual offenses and pimping to murder. The children grow up largely unchecked in these criminal structures."

According to Roman Reusch, a former top public prosecutor in Berlin, young people born into the immigrant clans "are consistently trained to become professional criminals." He said the youths were growing up in an environment in which "the most serious crimes are completely normal." He added: "They have developed a self-service mentality. They are determined to take whatever they want, whenever they want, and as often as they want." This makes them an "ideal reservoir for the foot soldiers of organized crime."

After Reusch attempted to initiate a crackdown on the clans, he was summarily removed from his post. His politically correct successor had a clear message for how he would henceforth deal with the criminals: "I do not like the word 'toughness.'"

Back in Duisburg, the newspaper Rheinische Post offered a glimpse into the reality of German multiculturalism by means of an interview with a streetcar driver. "I wish I would not have to drive the train through this neighborhood [Marxloh]," he said, adding that he often has to apply the brakes because immigrant children are playing on the tracks. "If they are chased away by the police, they are immediately back again as soon as the officers are gone."

As for those riding the trains, there are far more fare evaders than paying passengers, because conductors are afraid they will be assaulted if they ask immigrants to present their tickets.

Duisburg city councilman Volker Mosblech expressed his frustration with the intractability of the situation in Marxloh: "When I say that steps must be taken to ensure immigrants comply with rules and regulations, I'm immediately branded as a far right extremist. But order is exactly what is needed."

Nearly a half-decade ago, Chancellor Angela Merkel admitted that German multiculturalism has "utterly failed." Speaking to a meeting of her center-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU) in Potsdam in October 2010, Merkel said:

"We are a country which at the beginning of the 1960s actually brought [Muslim] guest workers to Germany. Now they live with us and we lied to ourselves for a while, saying that they will not stay and that they will have disappeared again one day. That is not the reality. This multicultural approach — saying that we simply live side by side and are happy about each other — this approach has failed, utterly failed."

At the time, many voters had hoped that Merkel's comments would transform the debate over mass immigration to Germany. Since then, however, immigration, especially from the Muslim world, has continued unabated.

Germany is now home to the largest number of immigrants (8.2 million) of any member state of the European Union. Germany also has the second-largest Muslim population (5 million) in the EU.


German police in riot gear, accompanied by armored vehicles and water cannons, charge into a street battle between Kurds and radical Islamists in Hamburg, Oct. 8, 2014. (Image source: N24 video screenshot)
Germany continues to be the recipient of the largest number of asylum applications in the EU. Germany received more than 200,000 asylum-seekers in 2014, and that number is expected to more than double by the end of 2015.

According to the latest statistics, more than 179,000 people applied for asylum in Germany during the first six months of 2015. Most were from Afghanistan, Albania, Iraq, Kosovo, Serbia and Syria.

Soeren Kern is a S

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6264/ ... es-germany

Swedish area of Husby last summer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJyR_JBvxgM

[Starglider]

It is unequalitarian to disproportionately assist the disproportionately able-bodied young cis males who happen to turn up in Europe rather all less fortunate people in all other parts of the world. Or is this something to do with carbon cost and ecological genocide inherent in sending aid overseas? I confess I can't keep track of when localist bias is and isn't acceptable in contemporary socialist orthodoxy.

[Zaune]

How about I put in terms that even my Daily Express-reading grandmother could probably agree with: Someone has to pick our crops, clean our houses and wipe the arses of our Alzheimer's-ravaged senior citizens, and if we don't bring in foreigners to do it we'll be stuck with the handful of English people too proud or too stupid to bullshit their way through a Jobcentre interview.

[Metahive]

Since I'm an avid reader of Der Spiegel I'll comment on this:

There are districts where immigrant gangs are taking over entire metro trains for themselves. Native residents and business people are being intimidated and silenced... The reasons for this: the high rate of unemployment, the lack of job prospects for immigrants without qualifications for the German labor market and ethnic tensions among migrants." — Der Spiegel.

Okay, dudes, here's the quoted Der Spiegel article in the original german (just guessing considering the "gatestoneinstitute" didn't specify where exactly they got it from but the translation fits for the most part)

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/n ... 45222.html

Duisburg: NRW-Polizei warnt vor rechtsfreien Räumen

Einschüchterungen, Bedrohungen, Gewalt: In einer vertraulichen Analyse warnt die Duisburger Polizei nach SPIEGEL-Informationen vor No-go-Areas. Die öffentliche Ordnung sei "akut gefährdet".

Die nordrhein-westfälische Polizei fürchtet die Entstehung rechtsfreier Räume in Ballungszentren. Wie aus einem vertraulichen Papier des Duisburger Präsidiums hervorgeht, droht der Staatsmacht die Kontrolle über Problembezirke der Stadt zu entgleiten. Die Pflicht der Polizei, die öffentliche Ordnung aufrechtzuerhalten, sei in bestimmten Gegenden "langfristig nicht gesichert" und "akut gefährdet", heißt es nach SPIEGEL-Informationen in der Analyse.

Es gebe Bezirke, in denen Banden bereits ganze Straßenzüge für sich reklamierten. Anwohner und Geschäftsleute würden eingeschüchtert und schwiegen aus Angst. Straßenbahnlinien nähmen die Menschen abends und nachts "als Angsträume wahr". Polizisten und vor allem weibliche Beamte sähen sich einer "hohen Aggressivität und Respektlosigkeit" gegenüber.
Mittelfristig werde sich an der Lage auch nichts ändern, so der Bericht. Dem stünden unter anderem die hohe Arbeitslosigkeit, die Perspektivlosigkeit von Zuwanderern ohne Qualifikationen für den deutschen Arbeitsmarkt und ethnische Spannungen unter den Migranten entgegen. Die Duisburger Polizei will nun mehr Präsenz auf der Straße zeigen und Straftäter konsequenter verfolgen.

So a couple of comments:

1.It's about one specific part of one city, Duisburg, not Germany in general

2.The "immigrants" it talks about are Roma, not refugees from the Middle East or Africa

3.There's another part to this article that points out that the districts this happen in are utterly neglected by the city government, the Roma living there are basically wasting away in urban ruins

So once again Cosmical Ali is caught in flagrantly trying to spread misinformation with the purpose of increasing xenophobia and racism.

I'm so utterly tired of this shit!