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Sweet, delicious irony: Republican opponent who accused Ilhan Omar of being a criminal charged with felony theft.

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A pro-Trump Republican candidate for Congress who is aiming to unseat Ilhan Omar in Minnesota has been charged with a felony after allegedly stealing from stores.

Danielle Stella was arrested twice this year in Minneapolis suburbs over allegations that she shoplifted items worth more than $2,300 from a Target and goods valued at $40 from a grocery store. She said she denied the allegations.

Stella, a 31-year-old special education teacher, was reported this week to be a supporter of the baseless “QAnon” conspiracy theory about Donald Trump battling a global cabal of elite liberal paedophiles.

This week Stella also described Minneapolis as “the crime capital of our country”. She has in the past complained that local police were “overworked and overburdened” and said that, if elected, she would work to reduce crime.

In a series of text messages, Stella said: “I am not guilty of these crimes. In this country I am innocent until proven guilty and that is the law.”

She added: “If I was guilty of crimes, I would never run for public office, putting myself in the public eye under a microscope to be attacked by all political sides.”

An attorney for Stella, Joshua London, declined to comment.

Stella is accused of stealing 279 items valued at $2,327.97 from a Target store in Edina, to the south-west of Minneapolis, on 8 January this year. She was arrested for the alleged theft after security staff called the police.

A criminal complaint filed to Hennepin county district court alleged Stella was seen leaving the store without paying for most of her haul, after “scanning only a few other items” that were valued at about $50.

The complaint said Stella told police in a statement she “remembers arriving at Target to purchase items but nothing else” due to post-traumatic stress disorder, and that she “normally she goes to Target with someone because of anxiety around people”.

Stella has said publicly that she was the victim of a severe violent assault in 2008. She is charged with the thefts under her former surname, which the Guardian agreed not to report because she said it could endanger her safety.

She is charged with felony theft over the incident at Target and faces a punishment of up to five years in prison and a fine of $10,000 if convicted, according to court filings.

Police and court records said a warrant was put out for Stella’s re-arrest for alleged contempt of court on 4 April, after she failed to show up for a court hearing.

Officers in nearby Bloomington then arrested Stella on 28 April after she was allegedly seen by security staff at a Cub Foods grocery store stealing a bottle of tick spray for cats, and placing other items “under her purse so that they could not be seen”.

When they checked her identification, police officers discovered the open warrant for Stella’s arrest over her failure to appear in court for the earlier alleged shoplifting, their incident report said.

The report said Stella was arrested for alleged misdemeanour theft for taking “cat merchandise” and cat food valued at $40.46. She was issued with a citation and given a date to appear in court. It was not clear whether authorities would pursue the contempt of court allegation.

Stella’s candidacy has attracted interest from the far-right conspiracy website InfoWars, which broadcast an interview with her this week. Stella laughed and nodded as the host, J Owen Shroyer, called Omar “a witch” and said: “Everything about her is a fraud.”

Describing Minneapolis during the interview as America’s “crime capital”, Stella falsely claimed that crime in the city had risen by 80% over the past year. According to Minneapolis police data, there has been a 10.7% uptick in serious crime year-on-year, following a 16.5% decline in 2018.

The rightwing commentator Todd Starnes promoted Stella in an interview earlier this month on Fox News’s streaming service Fox Nation. “We certainly wish Miss Stella the very best,” Starnes said, adding that he hoped for a “significant change in representation” in Omar’s district.

Last month Stella officially registered with the Federal Election Commission as a candidate for the Republican nomination in Minnesota’s fifth congressional district. She later spoke at the “Demand Free Speech” rally in Washington.

She has accused Omar of being a criminal for advising immigrants how to avoid agents from US Immigration and Customs Enforcement. She said in a tweet that any representatives who fail to “uphold the rule of law” should be ejected from office.

Court records say that in 2009, Stella pleaded guilty to driving while impaired from alcohol and fleeing a police officer. The latter charge was prosecuted as a felony but later classified as a gross misdemeanour as part of Stella’s plea.
So yeah. Serial shoplifter, and also a drunk driver who resisted arrest.

Say, what was that thing Republicans like to go on about? About earning what you get and not being a parasite?
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Stella is accused of stealing 279 items valued at $2,327.97 from a Target store in Edina, to the south-west of Minneapolis, on 8 January this year. She was arrested for the alleged theft after security staff called the police.
Holy crap - what did she do, drag a U-Haul trailer into the store behind her? How many carts of stuff at Target does it take to run up a $2,327.97 tab? And all in one day?
The complaint said Stella told police in a statement she “remembers arriving at Target to purchase items but nothing else” due to post-traumatic stress disorder, and that she “normally she goes to Target with someone because of anxiety around people”.
Let me get this straight... she has PTSD and social anxiety around crowds of people so severe it can cause a memory blackout and she's going into politics?
Stella has said publicly that she was the victim of a severe violent assault in 2008.
And... so what? I mean, I'm sorry about she was assaulted but most crime victims do not react by going on stealing spree.
She is charged with the thefts under her former surname, which the Guardian agreed not to report because she said it could endanger her safety.
She changed her name to escape the consequences of her actions? Well... that's fraud, actually.
Describing Minneapolis during the interview as America’s “crime capital”
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What the hell? Are there any Republicans running who AREN'T criminals? Isn't anyone vetting these people? Is this any way to run a proto-fascist political party?
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Broomstick wrote: 2019-07-28 05:21pm What the hell? Are there any Republicans running who AREN'T criminals? Isn't anyone vetting these people? Is this any way to run a proto-fascist political party?
George W Bush got reelected despite being a war criminal, and Republicans still apologise for him. Trump is literally Donald Trump, and even the Republicans who claim to hate him will defend his positions. The us/them of US politics mean that you either take the flawed one on your side versus the evil agent of Goldstein on the other.

The only time a failure to vet has really hamstrung the GOP significantly (off the top of my head) was Palin in 2008, but if the rest of the campaign wasn't such a shitshow it probably wouldn't have been an issue.
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Broomstick wrote: 2019-07-28 05:21pmWhat the hell? Are there any Republicans running who AREN'T criminals? Isn't anyone vetting these people? Is this any way to run a proto-fascist political party?
I'm pretty sure being a criminal is a prerequisite for that job.
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Criminality is part and parcel of fascism/proto-fascism. Fascism succeeds, when it does, because enough people are willing to overlook the blatant criminality because they fear and hate minorities/foreigners more.
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Broomstick wrote: 2019-07-28 05:21pm
Stella is accused of stealing 279 items valued at $2,327.97 from a Target store in Edina, to the south-west of Minneapolis, on 8 January this year. She was arrested for the alleged theft after security staff called the police.
Holy crap - what did she do, drag a U-Haul trailer into the store behind her? How many carts of stuff at Target does it take to run up a $2,327.97 tab? And all in one day?
Electronics, probably. Snag a few smart watches, for example...
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Napoleon the Clown wrote: 2019-07-30 12:15am
Broomstick wrote: 2019-07-28 05:21pm
Stella is accused of stealing 279 items valued at $2,327.97 from a Target store in Edina, to the south-west of Minneapolis, on 8 January this year. She was arrested for the alleged theft after security staff called the police.
Holy crap - what did she do, drag a U-Haul trailer into the store behind her? How many carts of stuff at Target does it take to run up a $2,327.97 tab? And all in one day?
Electronics, probably. Snag a few smart watches, for example...
Jewelery is another possible option though I don't know if any "proper" (as in costing more then few dollars a peice and not made from cheap plastic) jewelery is sold at Target.
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Lord Revan wrote: 2019-07-30 12:21am
Napoleon the Clown wrote: 2019-07-30 12:15am
Broomstick wrote: 2019-07-28 05:21pm
Holy crap - what did she do, drag a U-Haul trailer into the store behind her? How many carts of stuff at Target does it take to run up a $2,327.97 tab? And all in one day?
Electronics, probably. Snag a few smart watches, for example...
Jewelery is another possible option though I don't know if any "proper" (as in costing more then few dollars a peice and not made from cheap plastic) jewelery is sold at Target.
I reread the article. Apparently she stole a lot of stuff. So probably mostly a bunch of cheap shit. That's an average value of about $8.34. There's plenty of tiny shit at Target. Throw in a few high dollar value items and most of the cheap shit could be from the dollar section.
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So, let me get this straight....

She claims to have PTSD strong enough, she brings someone shopping with her to help her cope, and she expected to function as a Congressperson?

Yeah, that will really work, no matter what her beliefs are!
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Solauren wrote: 2019-07-30 05:20pm So, let me get this straight....

She claims to have PTSD strong enough, she brings someone shopping with her to help her cope, and she expected to function as a Congressperson?

Yeah, that will really work, no matter what her beliefs are!
Why shouldn't someone with PTSD be trusted to be a Congressperson?
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Depends on how the PTSD manifests.

In this case, large groups of people freak her out. What is Congress if not a large (and often hostile) group of people.

If going to session isn't feasible for her, she shouldn't run.

Also, I was mocking her 'excuse' for shoplifting 2G in junk.
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Solauren wrote: 2019-07-30 06:20pm Depends on how the PTSD manifests.

In this case, large groups of people freak her out. What is Congress if not a large (and often hostile) group of people.

If going to session isn't feasible for her, she shouldn't run.

Also, I was mocking her 'excuse' for shoplifting 2G in junk.
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Straha wrote: 2019-07-30 06:24pm
Solauren wrote: 2019-07-30 06:20pm Depends on how the PTSD manifests.

In this case, large groups of people freak her out. What is Congress if not a large (and often hostile) group of people.

If going to session isn't feasible for her, she shouldn't run.

Also, I was mocking her 'excuse' for shoplifting 2G in junk.
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Agreed. Unless she can be proven to be faking the PTSD (in which case rip into her by all means), then why go for such a low blow when there are so many other things you can mock and condemn this sorry excuse of a candidate for?
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Given...
.. The people I know that actually have PTSD or a similar high stress disorder, would never forget something that was helping them cope...
.. This is the first time that I'm aware of her claiming PTSD, and it just happens to be in association with a defense for a crime...

I'm fairly comfortable saying that I believe she's faking it as a legal defense/to invoke sympathy, and I'm dismissing her claims as fraudulent.
However, if proven otherwise, I will easily and fully retract that statement.
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Solauren wrote: 2019-07-30 09:43pm Given...
.. The people I know that actually have PTSD or a similar high stress disorder, would never forget something that was helping them cope...
.. This is the first time that I'm aware of her claiming PTSD, and it just happens to be in association with a defense for a crime...

I'm fairly comfortable saying that I believe she's faking it as a legal defense/to invoke sympathy, and I'm dismissing her claims as fraudulent.
However, if proven otherwise, I will easily and fully retract that statement.

Are you a medical professional? And, if yes, have you treated her in a professional capacity?
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Nope. I don't claim to.

I'm calling it suspect due to the timing, and her previous claims about her opponent.

A quick look at her Wikipedia entry shows
The initial charges she is facing are from January 2019. She now faces the possibility of 5 years in prison.
She claims she was assaulted in 2008, and has PTSD from it. She claimed this July 27, 2019.

Like I said, the timing is suspect. However, I will give her the benefit of the doubt now. Statement withdrawn.

However, if she does have PTSD, wouldn't the Republican vetting process have 'flagged' that, and she be pointing it out as part of her election campaign?
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If you aren't a medical professional then you are in no position to pass judgment on whether or not she has PTSD. To question whether or not someone you've never met and fundamentally do not know has a disability is a piece of shit move. Especially when the goal is to mock them for it. Be better.
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Straha wrote: 2019-07-30 09:57pm If you aren't a medical professional then you are in no position to pass judgment on whether or not she has PTSD. To question whether or not someone you've never met and fundamentally do not know has a disability is a piece of shit move. Especially when the goal is to mock them for it. Be better.
Please see edited entry immediately above.
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Solauren wrote: 2019-07-30 10:04pm
Straha wrote: 2019-07-30 09:57pm If you aren't a medical professional then you are in no position to pass judgment on whether or not she has PTSD. To question whether or not someone you've never met and fundamentally do not know has a disability is a piece of shit move. Especially when the goal is to mock them for it. Be better.
Please see edited entry immediately above.
Yeah, 'giving her the benefit of the doubt' and 'statement withdrawn' is a fucking weakass move.

If you're going to judge her, judge her for her contemptible rhetoric and risible stances that she takes.

However, to insinuate as you have that people with PTSD are somehow incapable of serving in elected office and should be screened out, and to take the position that lay strangers can even contemplate passing judgment on people to ascertain whether they're faking disability does nothing but stigmatize people who already suffer and helps to normalize the discrimination they already face. If you're going to walk your statement back at the least show some contrition in the process.
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If someone's PTSD is so severe/manifests such that she can't do ordinary shopping without assistance it's a reasonable question to ask if that is sufficiently impairing to impact her ability to do the job of being an elected representative. It's not other people "diagnosing" her from afar, SHE is the one saying she has PTSD. If she's claiming such a problem then it's reasonable to ask if it's severe enough to qualify as a disability and if so how that would impact her ability to do the job she is asking for. Plenty of people with PTSD manage to take care of themselves, keep their lives organized, and hold down a job, sometimes even a demanding job. Other people are left crippled by it. It's entirely reasonable, since she has stated she has PTSD, to ask where along that spectrum she lives.

But you are correct that that evaluation comes after analyzing her statements and policy positions.
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Broomstick wrote: 2019-07-31 04:55am If someone's PTSD is so severe/manifests such that she can't do ordinary shopping without assistance it's a reasonable question to ask if that is sufficiently impairing to impact her ability to do the job of being an elected representative. It's not other people "diagnosing" her from afar, SHE is the one saying she has PTSD. If she's claiming such a problem then it's reasonable to ask if it's severe enough to qualify as a disability and if so how that would impact her ability to do the job she is asking for. Plenty of people with PTSD manage to take care of themselves, keep their lives organized, and hold down a job, sometimes even a demanding job. Other people are left crippled by it. It's entirely reasonable, since she has stated she has PTSD, to ask where along that spectrum she lives.
Why do you think you are in a place to pass informed judgment on someone you've never met's mental health?
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Broomstick wrote: 2019-07-31 04:55am If someone's PTSD is so severe/manifests such that she can't do ordinary shopping without assistance it's a reasonable question to ask if that is sufficiently impairing to impact her ability to do the job of being an elected representative. It's not other people "diagnosing" her from afar, SHE is the one saying she has PTSD. If she's claiming such a problem then it's reasonable to ask if it's severe enough to qualify as a disability and if so how that would impact her ability to do the job she is asking for. Plenty of people with PTSD manage to take care of themselves, keep their lives organized, and hold down a job, sometimes even a demanding job. Other people are left crippled by it. It's entirely reasonable, since she has stated she has PTSD, to ask where along that spectrum she lives.

But you are correct that that evaluation comes after analyzing her statements and policy positions.
Personally, I am not in favor of barring people from serving as political representatives because they have a public PTSD flashback, or indeed of talking about disabilities in this fashion, as if infantilizing disabled people is just to be assumed as normative. I, of course, can point to the misunderstanding of PTSD displayed here, but that is ultimately irrelevant, because it would be just as illegitimate to say this about people with depression or schizophrenia or executive dysfunction or paraplegia or diabetes or chronic fatigue syndrome. Disabled people have no less right to participate in society and government than anyone else. Nor are we mannequins for people to gawk and speculate about.
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Re: Sweet, delicious irony: Republican opponent who accused Ilhan Omar of being a criminal charged with felony theft.

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Effie wrote: 2019-07-31 01:03pm Personally, I am not in favor of barring people from serving as political representatives because they have a public PTSD flashback, or indeed of talking about disabilities in this fashion, as if infantilizing disabled people is just to be assumed as normative. I, of course, can point to the misunderstanding of PTSD displayed here, but that is ultimately irrelevant, because it would be just as illegitimate to say this about people with depression or schizophrenia or executive dysfunction or paraplegia or diabetes or chronic fatigue syndrome. Disabled people have no less right to participate in society and government than anyone else. Nor are we mannequins for people to gawk and speculate about.
I am all for having the disabled participate in society in all possible ways, BUT -- you have to be qualified and capable of performing a job that you are seeking.

My late spouse, due to spinal damage, was NEVER going to get a job as a ballet dancer (just as well he never wanted one). Had he applied to be a member of a ballet troupe denying him that job would not have been "infantalizing" him. It would have been because he was not physically capable of doing the job.

Good luck being a piano tuner if you're completely deaf, or a bus driver if you're legally blind. You're not capable of doing the job and that's not being mean or infantalizing someone.

Mental illness is more problematic both because of misunderstanding and because most of it occurs on a spectrum. Some depressed people are capable of high-functioning, holding down demanding careers, taking care of other people, and being highly responsible successful adults. Others are crippled by depression to the point of being incapable of taking care of themselves on even a basic physical level. The latter are deserving of sympathy, care, and treatment but they aren't capable of holding down a job until their condition improves.

Likewise, PTSD runs a considerable range. I'm pretty sure my uncles who served as front-line troops in WWII suffered from what we now called PTSD, and being career police officers for decades after that probably didn't help their mental state, either, but all of them were high-functioning people - whatever level of PTSD they suffered from it didn't not impair them as far as daily activities of living or holding down a job. On the other hand, there are people utterly crippled by PTSD who, again, deserving sympathy, care and treatment but aren't capable of holding down a job until their condition improves.

So... if a candidate for public office states she has PTSD it's entirely reasonable to ask "is her PTSD sufficiently impairing to interfere with her job duties". That's not asking for details or treating the disabled/ill differently from anyone else, it's asking if someone is capable of doing the job.
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Re: Sweet, delicious irony: Republican opponent who accused Ilhan Omar of being a criminal charged with felony theft.

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Broomstick wrote: 2019-08-01 11:30am
Effie wrote: 2019-07-31 01:03pm Personally, I am not in favor of barring people from serving as political representatives because they have a public PTSD flashback, or indeed of talking about disabilities in this fashion, as if infantilizing disabled people is just to be assumed as normative. I, of course, can point to the misunderstanding of PTSD displayed here, but that is ultimately irrelevant, because it would be just as illegitimate to say this about people with depression or schizophrenia or executive dysfunction or paraplegia or diabetes or chronic fatigue syndrome. Disabled people have no less right to participate in society and government than anyone else. Nor are we mannequins for people to gawk and speculate about.
I am all for having the disabled participate in society in all possible ways, BUT -- you have to be qualified and capable of performing a job that you are seeking.

My late spouse, due to spinal damage, was NEVER going to get a job as a ballet dancer (just as well he never wanted one). Had he applied to be a member of a ballet troupe denying him that job would not have been "infantalizing" him. It would have been because he was not physically capable of doing the job.

Good luck being a piano tuner if you're completely deaf, or a bus driver if you're legally blind. You're not capable of doing the job and that's not being mean or infantalizing someone.

Mental illness is more problematic both because of misunderstanding and because most of it occurs on a spectrum. Some depressed people are capable of high-functioning, holding down demanding careers, taking care of other people, and being highly responsible successful adults. Others are crippled by depression to the point of being incapable of taking care of themselves on even a basic physical level. The latter are deserving of sympathy, care, and treatment but they aren't capable of holding down a job until their condition improves.

Likewise, PTSD runs a considerable range. I'm pretty sure my uncles who served as front-line troops in WWII suffered from what we now called PTSD, and being career police officers for decades after that probably didn't help their mental state, either, but all of them were high-functioning people - whatever level of PTSD they suffered from it didn't not impair them as far as daily activities of living or holding down a job. On the other hand, there are people utterly crippled by PTSD who, again, deserving sympathy, care and treatment but aren't capable of holding down a job until their condition improves.

So... if a candidate for public office states she has PTSD it's entirely reasonable to ask "is her PTSD sufficiently impairing to interfere with her job duties". That's not asking for details or treating the disabled/ill differently from anyone else, it's asking if someone is capable of doing the job.
Words cannot express how little interest I have in your personal anecdotes.

Your entire argument here is built around the idea that disabled people don't know what's best for ourselves and thus cannot be trusted to take on tasks within our abilities and thus it is entirely legitimate for our lives to be under scrutiny if we become public figures lest we prove "too disabled" to be a legislator. This is infantilizing, because it renders us less than fully adult humans. I can only really speak for myself, but it is infuriating to see people engage in, and a substantial number of other disabled people seem to agree with me.
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Re: Sweet, delicious irony: Republican opponent who accused Ilhan Omar of being a criminal charged with felony theft.

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Effie wrote: 2019-08-01 12:06pmWords cannot express how little interest I have in your personal anecdotes.

Your entire argument here is built around the idea that disabled people don't know what's best for ourselves and thus cannot be trusted to take on tasks within our abilities and thus it is entirely legitimate for our lives to be under scrutiny if we become public figures lest we prove "too disabled" to be a legislator. This is infantilizing, because it renders us less than fully adult humans. I can only really speak for myself, but it is infuriating to see people engage in, and a substantial number of other disabled people seem to agree with me.
It is not infantilizing, at least for the reason you state. There are a lot of fully adult humans who I consider to be unfit for public office (like Trump), and I have no idea if they have legitimate disabilities. It's beside the point. You say that the argument is "built around the idea that disabled people don't know what's best for ourselves", but I'd say that it is you that don't know what is best for everyone else if you think the question cannot be asked of someone seeking public office. It is "entirely legitimate" for the life of ANYONE seeking public office to be under scrutiny.
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