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16 wounded in 12 shooting incidents over long weekend in Toronto.

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Toronto police Chief Mark Saunders said a nightclub shooting that left five people injured early Monday is "very bothersome," but given the number of witnesses, the crime is "very solvable."

During a news conference following a violent Simcoe Day weekend in the city, Saunders said that from Saturday to Monday, police were called to 11 separate firearm incidents.

Shortly before 5 p.m. ET on Monday, police responded to a 12th gun-related incident in the Lawrence Heights area just south of Yorkdale shopping mall. One man was taken to hospital with gunshot injuries, which Toronto police and paramedics say were serious but non-life-threatening. A second victim made it to hospital on their own, police said.

Several hours later, police said multiple gunshots were heard in an area in the city's northwest. Police located one victim suffering from gunshot wounds. The victim's injuries are not believed to be life-threatening, police say.

A total of 16 people were left with gunshot wounds over the long weekend.

Thirty-three per cent of those incidents happened in the northwest end of the city, Saunders said.

Along with the nightclub shooting in suburban North York, the incidents included:

A Sunday morning shooting at an Airbnb-rented mansion on the Bridle Path, an upscale residential area in North York, that left one person injured.
Gunshots in Liberty Village, a condo-dominated area of downtown, that left one male victim with non-life-threatening injuries.
Two victims injured at the busy downtown intersection of Church and Adelaide streets.
Two victims shot in the area of Dufferin Street and Lawrence Avenue West, in the city's northwest end.

Police said they found five victims at the nightclub, including one male in life-threatening condition and four others, including two females, in non-life-threatening condition. A spokesperson for Toronto police said Monday afternoon that two more victims from the nightclub later showed up in hospital, revising the total number of victims from five to seven.

But police later said they have not been able to confirm that the two additional people who turned up at hospital with gunshot wounds were shot at the nightclub, revising the total number of victims back to five.

Police have yet to release details about the victims, including ages and identities.

"I find this one very bothersome," Saunders said.

Staff Sgt. Stacey Davis of the Toronto Police Service said multiple calls came in just after 2 a.m. ET from the District 45 lounge on Finch Avenue West near Keele Street.

Davis said there was an altercation near the back of the club's interior when shots were first fired.

Two victims left the club before police arrived and took themselves to hospital.

Davis said that after the shooting, patrons leaving the nightclub were in emotional distress.

"It's very concerning … the club was packed with patrons."

Saunders said investigators found shell casings inside and outside the club. They are reviewing security camera footage from inside the club to get a better sense of what happened and to identify a suspect or suspects. He also asked witnesses to call 31 Division or Crime Stoppers.

"We think this one is very solvable," he said. "There were a lot of people that were there."

Saunders told reporters he is putting "additional resources" into areas where he feels a police presence may help deter further gunplay. He did not elaborate on what that would look like.

On Monday, Mayor John Tory released a statement calling the recent rash of gun violence "absolutely unacceptable."

"I know Toronto police are working non-stop to find those responsible for these shootings and to bring them to justice," Tory said. "I urge anyone with information that could help investigators solve these shootings to call police or Crime Stoppers."

Tory also repeated his calls for a handgun ban. City council debated a handgun ban in June, despite the fact different levels of government have to be involved.
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Toronto is a very large city with a very low crime rate by North American standards. Its not at all unusual for it to have a random spike of murders and gun violence without it being reflective of any wider trend. It isn't reflective of any kind of imagined Americanization that you're so worried about, except the tendency to feebly connect whatever happens here to the issue du jour for American chattering classes.
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Coop D'etat wrote: 2019-08-06 01:15pm Toronto is a very large city with a very low crime rate by North American standards. Its not at all unusual for it to have a random spike of murders and gun violence without it being reflective of any wider trend. It isn't reflective of any kind of imagined Americanization that you're so worried about, except the tendency to feebly connect whatever happens here to the issue du jour for American chattering classes.
IMO gun violence has been going up over the past few years in Toronto, though the majority of it appears to be related to gang violence. The odds of someone being randomly murdered in Toronto are pretty low, though mass shootings and the occasional terrorist attack are a thing now.

IMO this spike has a lot to do with the overall failure in our efforts to reduce poverty, as well as our failure to address gang violence. We cut funding to these areas whenever possible, yet act all shocked and appalled at the inevitable spike in crime that follows.

Lather, rinse, repeat, and it’s really getting rather tiresome.
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Tribble wrote: 2019-08-06 01:50pm
Coop D'etat wrote: 2019-08-06 01:15pm Toronto is a very large city with a very low crime rate by North American standards. Its not at all unusual for it to have a random spike of murders and gun violence without it being reflective of any wider trend. It isn't reflective of any kind of imagined Americanization that you're so worried about, except the tendency to feebly connect whatever happens here to the issue du jour for American chattering classes.
IMO gun violence has been going up over the past few years in Toronto, though the majority of it appears to be related to gang violence. The odds of someone being randomly murdered in Toronto are pretty low, though mass shootings and the occasional terrorist attack are a thing now.

IMO this spike has a lot to do with the overall failure in our efforts to reduce poverty, as well as our failure to address gang violence. We cut funding to these areas whenever possible, yet act all shocked and appalled at the inevitable spike in crime that follows.

Lather, rinse, repeat, and it’s really getting rather tiresome.
It went up in the early 2000s and then went right back down again despite a fair bit of press hyperventilation on the subject of gun violence. Last couple years it upticked again, but there is no particular reason to think its part of a significant pattern rather than stochaistic variation. The base rate is sufficiently low and the population measured sufficiently high that periodic random spikes are pretty much to be expected. In general, violent crime is trending towards.
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The Romulan Republic wrote: 2019-08-06 04:58am Why does it seem like Canada is becoming more like the US in all the worst ways?
It's Caribana weekend, or as my cop buddy calls it, Crime-a-bana. There's almost always a bunch of crime sprees & shootings on this weekend, the last few years have been below average, this year is one of the worse ones. I wouldn't read too much into it unless future Caribana weekends confirm the trend.
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Also, how many of the shooters and victims were local, and how many were tourists? That's something that needs to be considered as well.
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