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Anti-war extremists make complete jack-asses and public nuisances out of themselves by blocking traffic etc with massive public protests.

Pro-war extremists do not create disruptive public protests, but instead they attempt to threaten or cause actual economic harm to those who oppose the war, mostly through the use of boycotts, high-profile firings, etc.

Ignorant Jack-asses vs Vindictive Assholes. What's worse?
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Darth Wong wrote:Anti-war extremists make complete jack-asses and public nuisances out of themselves by blocking traffic etc with massive public protests.

Pro-war extremists do not create disruptive public protests, but instead they attempt to threaten or cause actual economic harm to those who oppose the war, mostly through the use of boycotts, high-profile firings, etc.

Ignorant Jack-asses vs Vindictive Assholes. What's worse?
Tough question. I would learn towards the Ignorant Jack-asses, personally; vomit and feces in the streets arouse my ire more than the economic persecution of some celebrities and well, France.
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Anti-War extremists are attention whores. They don't get anything done, can annoy the fuck out people (imagine being late for work cause of these assholes), and can perform fairly disgusting acts of 'protest' (think vomit-ins).

Pro-War extremists not only cause people annoyance when they can't go to the place they want to go because of a boycott, but also because these retards are actually hurting the economy of their local area (its impossible for the relatively few boycotts out there to threaten the nation-wide economy).

That said, either one can do minor damage. I couldn't real pick between the two however..
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Darth Wong wrote:Anti-war extremists make complete jack-asses and public nuisances out of themselves by blocking traffic etc with massive public protests.

Pro-war extremists do not create disruptive public protests, but instead they attempt to threaten or cause actual economic harm to those who oppose the war, mostly through the use of boycotts, high-profile firings, etc.

Ignorant Jack-asses vs Vindictive Assholes. What's worse?

I'm going with Vindictive Assholes. The Anti-war extremists can be dealt with under standing laws (and a smidgen of ass whoopen :D ). The Pro-war extremeists are using a form of extortion to stick it to others who saw/see things differently. This one bothers me more because that style of thinking can balloon out of control. It's not like the US hasn't done similar kinds of things before (blacklists). I just see the potential for losing freedoms in some form or another because of the Vindictive Assholes.

The Pro-War people doing extreme stuff seem to alienate more moderate anti-war people almost as much as they do people who disagree with them.
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Like picking the fire or the frying pan...

One side is grand annoyance, the other is annoyance on a possible personal level.

I'm leaning to personal level becuase it can be more harm then a bunch of attention whores who think they are doing something by blocking traffic(possibilty but rarer.)
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Thus far I think the pro-war crowd has done more damage than the anti-war crowd.
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Anti war, since there's no escaping their blockings of streets and such. At least with Pro-war extremists you can avoid their actions fairly easily by being or at least acting pro war. Acting anti war wont get me out of a traffic jam.
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Well, the anti-war crowd (I'm thinking France and Germany here) have boycotted American/British goods.
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Anti-war, most definitely. Pro war is, well, not buying celebrities crap and boycotting France. Not exactly a big economic impact, but, hey, personally, I think France deserves it, but that is a whole other thread.

Anti-war protestors also block emergency services such as ambulances and fire response teams, destroy public property, and draw police to protests for crowd control, taking them away from other positions.
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Uther wrote:Well, the anti-war crowd (I'm thinking France and Germany here) have boycotted American/British goods.
True, although I was under the impression that it was retaliatory. In any case, I was thinking more of the anti-war and pro-war extremists in America, not worldwide.

It's interesting, though, to note that we never hear about any countervailing protests or actions by the pro-war people in Germany or France. Are there none? Is there more uniformity of opinion over there?
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weemadando wrote:Thus far I think the pro-war crowd has done more damage than the anti-war crowd.
Haven't seen any pro-war/support the troops rallies turn into mobs or riots,yet, as anti-war protests are notorious for doing.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Uther wrote:Well, the anti-war crowd (I'm thinking France and Germany here) have boycotted American/British goods.
True, although I was under the impression that it was retaliatory. In any case, I was thinking more of the anti-war and pro-war extremists in America, not worldwide.

It's interesting, though, to note that we never hear about any countervailing protests or actions by the pro-war people in Germany or France. Are there none? Is there more uniformity of opinion over there?
It is rare that pro-war rallies ever recieve any news or media coverage here in the US. For comparison, the Knoxville News Sentinel recently ran a front page story about an anti-war rally, yet the only news of a pro-war rally was buried in the back section.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Uther wrote:Well, the anti-war crowd (I'm thinking France and Germany here) have boycotted American/British goods.
True, although I was under the impression that it was retaliatory. In any case, I was thinking more of the anti-war and pro-war extremists in America, not worldwide.
And some pro-war jerks in the US are sooo dumb they boycott Canadian goods and businesses. :roll:
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Nathan F wrote:
weemadando wrote:Thus far I think the pro-war crowd has done more damage than the anti-war crowd.
Haven't seen any pro-war/support the troops rallies turn into mobs or riots,yet, as anti-war protests are notorious for doing.
They are notorious for doing that because actions of others can escalate the tensions. Police are notorious for using excessive force, causing riots to appear out of peaceful marches.
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Nathan F wrote:
weemadando wrote:Thus far I think the pro-war crowd has done more damage than the anti-war crowd.
Haven't seen any pro-war/support the troops rallies turn into mobs or riots,yet, as anti-war protests are notorious for doing.
They are notorious for doing that because actions of others can escalate the tensions. Police are notorious for using excessive force, causing riots to appear out of peaceful marches.
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Ted wrote:
Nathan F wrote:
weemadando wrote:Thus far I think the pro-war crowd has done more damage than the anti-war crowd.
Haven't seen any pro-war/support the troops rallies turn into mobs or riots,yet, as anti-war protests are notorious for doing.
They are notorious for doing that because actions of others can escalate the tensions. Police are notorious for using excessive force, causing riots to appear out of peaceful marches.
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Anti-war side probably does the most damage from an objective standpoint. Blocking traffic in a major city causes more economic harm than freedom ticklers and refusing to sell to Canadians on eBay. And frankly, I think a lot of the idotic pro-war sentiment is partly a backlash against the anti-war extremeists who fairly or not get the most coverage and moron celebrities flapping their pie holes.

All that being said, the stuff that comes out of the mouth of the pro-war nitwits for some reason REALLY goes up my ass. Maybe it's because they're clueless pigdickers who make the pro-war side look stupid. I watched a student debate on the war at my college and it was my side I wanted to beat with a shoe--they weren't prepared for the same fucking liberal arguments everybody has heard over and over and over again. Christ. Never send an accounting major to do a polisci major's job.
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RedImperator wrote:Anti-war side probably does the most damage from an objective standpoint. Blocking traffic in a major city causes more economic harm than freedom ticklers and refusing to sell to Canadians on eBay. And frankly, I think a lot of the idotic pro-war sentiment is partly a backlash against the anti-war extremeists who fairly or not get the most coverage and moron celebrities flapping their pie holes.

All that being said, the stuff that comes out of the mouth of the pro-war nitwits for some reason REALLY goes up my ass. Maybe it's because they're clueless pigdickers who make the pro-war side look stupid. I watched a student debate on the war at my college and it was my side I wanted to beat with a shoe--they weren't prepared for the same fucking liberal arguments everybody has heard over and over and over again. Christ. Never send an accounting major to do a polisci major's job.
Hey, I resent that. :evil:
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RedImperator wrote:Anti-war side probably does the most damage from an objective standpoint. Blocking traffic in a major city causes more economic harm than freedom ticklers and refusing to sell to Canadians on eBay. And frankly, I think a lot of the idotic pro-war sentiment is partly a backlash against the anti-war extremeists who fairly or not get the most coverage and moron celebrities flapping their pie holes.

All that being said, the stuff that comes out of the mouth of the pro-war nitwits for some reason REALLY goes up my ass. Maybe it's because they're clueless pigdickers who make the pro-war side look stupid. I watched a student debate on the war at my college and it was my side I wanted to beat with a shoe--they weren't prepared for the same fucking liberal arguments everybody has heard over and over and over again. Christ. Never send an accounting major to do a polisci major's job.
Hey, I resent that. :evil:
Hasty generalization on my part. The two nitwits on the conservative side in the debate were accounting majors, and they conceeded points (usually be default) that even an antiwar polisci major would have refuted. Scratch that--they conceeded points any conservative who doesn't limit his news sources to Rush Limbaugh could have refuted.
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Heh, no harm done. In any case, pro-war accounting majors are likely going to understand economics a little better than antiwar people, so they should have no real trouble dealing with the stock "war for oil" arguments.
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Bah, why give a libarts major the job that an engineer could do 10 times better.

Wait, that goes for anything.... :twisted:

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Darth Wong wrote:Anti-war extremists make complete jack-asses and public nuisances out of themselves by blocking traffic etc with massive public protests.

Pro-war extremists do not create disruptive public protests, but instead they attempt to threaten or cause actual economic harm to those who oppose the war, mostly through the use of boycotts, high-profile firings, etc.

Ignorant Jack-asses vs Vindictive Assholes. What's worse?
Wait, this isn't a proper comparison, is it? Aren't you pitting general public "Ignorant Jack-asses" with corporate "Vindictive Assholes"?
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Durran Korr wrote:Heh, no harm done. In any case, pro-war accounting majors are likely going to understand economics a little better than antiwar people, so they should have no real trouble dealing with the stock "war for oil" arguments.
You'd think that, wouldn't you? Unfortunately, these were accounting majors. Apparently they'd aced double entry bookkeeping but were a little fuzzy on macroeconomics. Their response to the oil argument was a combination of "So what?" and "You're a doodyhead".
Nathan F wrote:Bah, why give a libarts major the job that an engineer could do 10 times better.

Wait, that goes for anything.... :twisted:

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You'd think that, wouldn't you? Unfortunately, these were accounting majors. Apparently they'd aced double entry bookkeeping but were a little fuzzy on macroeconomics. Their response to the oil argument was a combination of "So what?" and "You're a doodyhead".
Ah, double-entry accounting, the easy stuff, before they unless the horrors of Tax I on you.
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RedImperator wrote:
Nathan F wrote:Bah, why give a libarts major the job that an engineer could do 10 times better.

Wait, that goes for anything.... :twisted:

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You're on thin ice, math monkey. Go tinker with something.

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