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A rant from the Apolyton forums posted by Sirotnikov. Posted here with permission.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.p ... adid=82893
Originally posted by Sirotnikov
I've just watched the Russian news reports on 2 major russian channels.

The TV policy, I remind you, is dictated by the Kremlin, since it has power over all TV stations in Russia, whether direct, through "regulations" or economical control through state-run comapnies.


The obscenely falsified facts and doctored video tapes, and provided lious commentatorship to present the American forces in a very bad light.


For instance, a taping from CNN showing white civilian cars with Iraqi militia inside, shooting at US forces, was cut, only to show the US forces firing back at the car and the car swaying to the side of the road, with the commentator explaining "Many civilians are hit, as US forces first open fire and only later ask questions".

Tapings from FOX/SKY of suspect Fedayin members being arrested at their homes are commentated: "Innocent unarmed Iraqi men are brutally kidnapped from their homes just for having expressed support of Saddam Hussein".

Tapes from different days and different time frames were edited together, and commentated in a fashion which suggested "heavy iraqi resistance". That included pictures of UK troops destroying left behind Iraqi vehicles (as seen on SKY) being commentated as if they were hit in the middle of a heavy fire fight.

Saturday's probe into Baghdad was titled "a failed american attack, rebuffed by Iraqi divisions" and a tank whose engine failed, and which was left and detonated by the US (so that not to leave usable weapons behind) was commentated as "The american forces suffered 3 casualties as the 3 troops driving this tank were killed when Iraqi forces blew it up".

A tape showing a person resisting arrest, and a UK trooper forcing him to submit, was presented as if it was normal procedure of "humiliation and beating up of unsuspecting citizens and random check points through out the country".

An interview with american renegade reporter (the same who was interviewed by Iraqi TV) was voiced over. The voice over presented it as if the commentator went on and on about how the Iraqis resisted and how the US was not prepared, but are now employing a "no holds barred" tactic to finish the job. A closer listen to the original soundtrack that was not silenced allowed me to conclude that the "no holds barred" part was a russian invention. In reality the reporter talked about the cooperation US troops are attempting with Iraqi civilians.

Videos of Iraqi trucks fleeing Baghdad were presented as "reenforcements arriving to the scene".


The incident where Russian ambassadors got in the middle of a fight between Iraqi an US forces was presented as if US forces suddenly opened fire on an unsuspecting Russian concoy. This is what all the broadcasters said, except for one Russian journalist who was interviewed, who was actually on the scene when it happenned, who admitted that they got into a middle of a gun fight, and were infact close to a concentration of Iraqi forces.


In the recent month, the russian media has made "the iraqi issue" a central one and does it's best to present the events in as anti-american light as possible.

No one cares about the thousands slaughtered in Chechnya by Russian forces, yet russian TV stations gave special coverages to the issues of "iraqi civilian casualties" where they describe bloody american fighting tactics.



This is unbelievable. I think that Kremlin wants to create a huge enemocity towards the USA among it's citizens (that have actually been USA's greatest supporters after the fall of communism), and thus justify political steps against the USA.

Furthermore, this manipulation proves that Russia is not a free country.

I thinkn Putin hopes to gain a status of the most vocal anti-USA democracy, and thus gain more influence, and hopefully leadership of the Anti-US European block.



i'm frankly appalled by the amount of lies I've seen in that half hour of russian news. Not since the calbe company terminated the agreement with BBC, do I remember such a bunch of obviuos lies in such a short time span.
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I get the feeling russia dont like us anymore.
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I get a feeling Russia hasn't really changed since pre-'91.

Regimes change, lies and enmity stays the same.
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Illuminatus Primus wrote:I get a feeling Russia hasn't really changed since pre-'91.

Regimes change, lies and enmity stays the same.
What has America done to make Russia forget the Cold War? Nothing.

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fgalkin wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:I get a feeling Russia hasn't really changed since pre-'91.

Regimes change, lies and enmity stays the same.
What has America done to make Russia forget the Cold War? Nothing.

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Master of Ossus wrote:
fgalkin wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:I get a feeling Russia hasn't really changed since pre-'91.

Regimes change, lies and enmity stays the same.
What has America done to make Russia forget the Cold War? Nothing.

Have a very nice day.
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You speak as if the US is responsible for making Russia forget the Cold War.
It's not. But it hasn't done anything to alleviate the situation in Russia, either. So why are Americans acting all surprised when they find out that Russia hates their guts.

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I guess Russia wants to rebuild walls and close the iron curtain again.
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Fgalkin, we don't owe the Russians anything.
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HemlockGrey wrote:Fgalkin, we don't owe the Russians anything.
I know, its our own fault we started believing in democracy. Just don't be surprised that we don't like America.

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fgalkin wrote:I know, its our own fault we started believing in democracy. Just don't be surprised that we don't like America.
Democracy has worked prettly for the rest of the First World. It's not our fault Russia can't hack it.
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umm... and it´s not like russia is even the biggest problem. the biggest problem is the long ass list of countries you can check out at

http://www.usembassy.gov (or something like that)

that hate usa so much that they tell you not to go there with an american passport.
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fgalkin wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:
fgalkin wrote: What has America done to make Russia forget the Cold War? Nothing.

Have a very nice day.
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You speak as if the US is responsible for making Russia forget the Cold War.
It's not. But it hasn't done anything to alleviate the situation in Russia, either. So why are Americans acting all surprised when they find out that Russia hates their guts.
Frankly, because Russia and the US have been on pretty good terms following the end of the Cold War. They've made lots of diplomatic progress in terms of disarmament, civil rights, and negotiated significant improvements in free trade and other areas.
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Master of Ossus wrote:
fgalkin wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote: You speak as if the US is responsible for making Russia forget the Cold War.
It's not. But it hasn't done anything to alleviate the situation in Russia, either. So why are Americans acting all surprised when they find out that Russia hates their guts.
Frankly, because Russia and the US have been on pretty good terms following the end of the Cold War. They've made lots of diplomatic progress in terms of disarmament, civil rights, and negotiated significant improvements in free trade and other areas.
The population still hates America, though. In Russia, the common stereotype is that all Americans are fat rich bastards. Hell, when I returned to Russia last year, and stayed at a friend's house, we couldn't even mention America outside, since it the neighbors might break in, and steal stuff, just because "Americans" stayed there for a while (this was in a rather poor neighborhood).

During the current conflict in Iraq, more than 10,000 Russians have volunteered to go to Iraq and fight the Americans.

During the Kosovo campaign, there were mass protests in Russia. Some guys actaully FIRED A GREANADE LAUNCHER at the US Embassy in Moscow (no one was hurt). They weren't found.

So, you see, even though Russia has made deals with America to get more aid, it still hates its guts.

Have a very nice day.
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