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US Marijuana crop now more valuable than corn!!

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Corn. America's largest and most valuable agricultural product? not anymore:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,1 ... 80,00.html
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Pot brings in a better price from the stoners.
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Col. Crackpot wrote:Corn. America's largest and most valuable agricultural product? not anymore:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,1 ... 80,00.html
It's always been that way. Black market goods which are easy to produce will always have a higher demand and thus higher price than legal ones.
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Durandal wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:Corn. America's largest and most valuable agricultural product? not anymore:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,1 ... 80,00.html
It's always been that way. Black market goods which are easy to produce will always have a higher demand and thus higher price than legal ones.
still, the fact that pot is now the most valuable agricultual product in the US is quite amusing. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Wes Clark!
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right, time to legalize and tax.
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Enforcer Talen wrote:right, time to legalize and tax.
exactly. i guarentee that Phillip Morris could produce packs of Marlboro Ganja TM at a tenth of the cost of the black market street value. then just tax the shit out of it. The potheads are happy because their pot is cheaper. The government is happy because they get billions of dollars in new tax revenue...part of which could be sent to drug rehab centers. the Coast Guard is happy because they can devote their resources to something important like <gasp!> stopping terrorists and piracy!
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Yeah, I'm beginning to agree with the legalize and tax argument.

Not to mention that legalizing it would free up the DEA to focus on more hazardous and addictive drugs, like cocaine and heroin.
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And not to mention it would free up prison space, actually make the government money with the taxes on it, and perhaps take the "thrill" out of using an illegal drug.
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Col. Crackpot wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:right, time to legalize and tax.
exactly. i guarentee that Phillip Morris could produce packs of Marlboro Ganja TM at a tenth of the cost of the black market street value. then just tax the shit out of it. The potheads are happy because their pot is cheaper. The government is happy because they get billions of dollars in new tax revenue...part of which could be sent to drug rehab centers. the Coast Guard is happy because they can devote their resources to something important like <gasp!> stopping terrorists and piracy!
A tenth? Marijuana is a plant which can be grown in almost any environment, as long as there is a light source. It's extremely cheap to produce. Phillip Morris could sell a pack of marijuana cigarettes or joints for roughly the same amount as they do regular cigarettes. Those twenty joints would be filled with probably 1/2 and ounce of marijuana, which runs on the street for upward of $100 to $150, depending on quality and location. For $5 per pack, you're looking at a 2000% decrease in the street price at the very least. Given that people are willing to pay $30 for 1/8 of an ounce, that leaves plenty of room for taxation.

The government is missing out on a big source of income here. Too bad they're too stupid to realize it.
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Perhaps we should outlaw corn as to raise the price higher. How does the "corn mafia" sound to you people?
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Oh, fun!

I think it should be legalized and regulated. This is the ONLY area where I could support 'exorbitant' taxes on something. It really needs regulating, because sometimes you get duds, and other times you might get something laced with a hardcore drug like PCP or crack... :evil:
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A plant I can grow on my windowsill is worth more than gold.

That's really fucking sad. And here we had the DARE officer come in to school and explain why drug possesion should be a felony...stupid, stupid, stupid.
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HemlockGrey wrote:A plant I can grow on my windowsill is worth more than gold.

That's really fucking sad. And here we had the DARE officer come in to school and explain why drug possesion should be a felony...stupid, stupid, stupid.
Too bad the DARE people only go into the lower grades (of course, it's easier to indoctrinate children into the "drugs are bad ... mmkay?" mantra than young adults). I'd love to see some arrogant high schooler stand up and explain the economic benefits that could be reaped from legal taxation of drug traffic to the DARE officer.

Of course, legalized drugs would put most of those people out of work.
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Enforcer Talen wrote:right, time to legalize and tax.
Seriously. you talk about easing economic problems. First, the government would make more money off taxation,but at the same time, prices would fall because its not illegal, meaning stoners have more money to spend, thus stimulating the economy.
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Fremen_Muhadib wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:right, time to legalize and tax.
Seriously. you talk about easing economic problems. First, the government would make more money off taxation,but at the same time, prices would fall because its not illegal, meaning stoners have more money to spend, thus stimulating the economy.
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Durandal wrote:Drugs are bad ... mmmkay?
They are. But in this case the harm isn't worth the effort to prohibit it.
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Great legalize pot so that the government had to support that price too!
There is not a single commodity that has not at one time or another had its prices supported by the government, meaning the government pays the farmers to grow the crops, because they can't make enough money from the crop to keep the farm up and running with out government price supports.
We don't need to add something like pot to that equation. We actually need the food to survive, but not pot!
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Death from the Sea wrote:Great legalize pot so that the government had to support that price too!
There is not a single commodity that has not at one time or another had its prices supported by the government, meaning the government pays the farmers to grow the crops, because they can't make enough money from the crop to keep the farm up and running with out government price supports.
We don't need to add something like pot to that equation. We actually need the food to survive, but not pot!
You missed the part about how anyone can grow marijuana in almost any kinds of conditions, didn't you?
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Too bad the DARE people only go into the lower grades (of course, it's easier to indoctrinate children into the "drugs are bad ... mmkay?" mantra than young adults). I'd love to see some arrogant high schooler stand up and explain the economic benefits that could be reaped from legal taxation of drug traffic to the DARE officer.
We were asked to write down whether we think drug possession should be a felony or a misdemeaner, and I wrote 'Neither, it is a victimless crime and should not be illegal at all.'

The guy's been shadowing me around the school. It's fucking scary.
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HemlockGrey wrote:
Too bad the DARE people only go into the lower grades (of course, it's easier to indoctrinate children into the "drugs are bad ... mmkay?" mantra than young adults). I'd love to see some arrogant high schooler stand up and explain the economic benefits that could be reaped from legal taxation of drug traffic to the DARE officer.
We were asked to write down whether we think drug possession should be a felony or a misdemeaner, and I wrote 'Neither, it is a victimless crime and should not be illegal at all.'

The guy's been shadowing me around the school. It's fucking scary.
Holy fuck, are you serious? That's fuckin' hilarious! :D
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Death from the Sea wrote:Great legalize pot so that the government had to support that price too!
There is not a single commodity that has not at one time or another had its prices supported by the government, meaning the government pays the farmers to grow the crops, because they can't make enough money from the crop to keep the farm up and running with out government price supports.
We don't need to add something like pot to that equation. We actually need the food to survive, but not pot!
Why would we have to do that? Simply make it a business (like tobacco should be as well) where there's no government subsidies. If you want to farm pot then you have to worry about the profit margin.
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Holy fuck, are you serious? That's fuckin' hilarious!
Dead serious. I half-expect them to raid my locker any day now. 'course, they won't find anything, but still...
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Durandal wrote:
Death from the Sea wrote:Great legalize pot so that the government had to support that price too!
There is not a single commodity that has not at one time or another had its prices supported by the government, meaning the government pays the farmers to grow the crops, because they can't make enough money from the crop to keep the farm up and running with out government price supports.
We don't need to add something like pot to that equation. We actually need the food to survive, but not pot!
You missed the part about how anyone can grow marijuana in almost any kinds of conditions, didn't you?
That just means more people would grow it driving the price so far down that farmers couldn't produce enough to keep up with basic farm needs.
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Durandal wrote:Those twenty joints would be filled with probably 1/2 and ounce of marijuana, which runs on the street for upward of $100 to $150, depending on quality and location. For $5 per pack, you're looking at a 2000% decrease in the street price at the very least. Given that people are willing to pay $30 for 1/8 of an ounce, that leaves plenty of room for taxation.
Jesus christ. Your street prices are fucking insane.
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