11-22-1963

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-05-09 04:37pm

My dad is a big Kennedy Conspiracy Nut, My mom is not.

So I am just going to post a little poll to see how the rest of the board feels....

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2003-05-09 04:43pm

Landslide Lyndon

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-05-09 04:48pm

I don't think Oswald acted alone, but I believe he was the only shooter. Where never going to know the full story.

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2003-05-09 04:50pm

Heh, what the hell, Oswald acted alone.

(on the other hand, maybe it was Castro, in association with Marilyn, both of which contracted Oswald, from a secret CIA snipper program, with Mafia money.)

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-05-09 05:11pm

We`ll know who really killed Kennedy in 2030.

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2003-05-09 06:12pm

Blah Red Dwarf has the answer.

Kennedy killed Kennedy!

Go watch that episode!

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-05-09 08:43pm

Faram wrote:Blah Red Dwarf has the answer.

Kennedy killed Kennedy!

Go watch that episode!

No no no no, your wrong, Angel has the answer. Oswald did it alone, Jasmine said so.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-05-09 08:48pm

It was "They"!

I think it was Lee Harvey Oswald, who probably had some grudge against Kennedy. Perhaps Kennedy used to beat him up for his lunch money or something.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-05-09 08:50pm

If Oswald had not been killed by Jack Ruby and if Jack Ruby had not been killed by (filled in the blank) we would allready know who arranged the whole damn thing.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-05-09 09:03pm

Faram wrote:Blah Red Dwarf has the answer.

Kennedy killed Kennedy!

Go watch that episode!

I was about to quote it

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-05-09 09:08pm

Faram wrote:Blah Red Dwarf has the answer.

Kennedy killed Kennedy!

Go watch that episode!

"You want me to - assassinate myself?"

"Yeah, it will drive the conspiracy nuts crazy, but why not?"

Lord Sander · Post by **Lord Sander** » 2003-05-09 09:11pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:I don't think Oswald acted alone, but I believe he was the only shooter. Where never going to know the full story.

So the magic bullet theory.. was true?

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-05-09 10:37pm

Montcalm wrote:If Oswald had not been killed by Jack Ruby and if Jack Ruby had not been killed by (filled in the blank) we would allready know who arranged the whole damn thing.

IIRC Ruby died of cancer in prison. Though it was thought to be a bit suspicious.

I think it was a collusion between the mob and the CIA, I figure because the mob had interest in Cuba as a lot of mob shit used to happen there before communism took over. And the CIA for almost the same reason, JFK was going for peace with the Soviets.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-05-09 10:43pm

Lord Sander wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:I don't think Oswald acted alone, but I believe he was the only shooter. Where never going to know the full story.
So the magic bullet theory.. was true?

No chance in hell. Each shot appeared to come from a different direction too. The TSBD was behind JFK, and that would mean the shot that took out the back of his skull would have had to do a U-turn. If it was the mob that killed him that would also explain Jack Ruby's popping Oswald before he could testify publically.

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-05-09 10:55pm

The cigarette smoking man shot Kennedy from a stormwater drain!

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-05-09 11:14pm

weemadando wrote:The cigarette smoking man shot Kennedy from a stormwater drain!

LOL, I remember watching that in Moder History when we studied this. We then had a 20 minute discussion on why that was wrong.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-05-10 03:45am

For the sake of a good conspiracy, I voted CIA.

Sokar · Post by **Sokar** » 2003-05-10 04:20am

For thoes of us who enjoy these things, if Oswald did it alone , he was hands down the greatest markman who EVER lived. The speed and accuracy of the shots are to incredible for a lone shooter. He would have had to aim(at a target whos range was increasing with every second), and fire, as fast as he could work the bolt to have shot that many times in the time allowed. You cant fucking do it , not with that gun.

Im of the belief that the CIA in a combined conspiracy with the US Military Industrial Complex, who stood to make billions off the burgeoning war in South East Asia, assassinated Kennedy before he could derail their own plans for fighting the Cold War. There were multiple shooters(4 IMHO), arrayed IN FRONT of the Kennedy motorcade, two of whom went for headshots, while the others aimed for the heart to insure that Jack Kennedy took the big dirt nap. One of the chest shooters missed and wounded Governor Connally(the possibility exists as well that Oswald did at least drop one round into the passenger compartment and wounded the governor) while the other achieved near simultaneous head shots, which is why you see a large portion of the Presidents grey matter spray across the trunk of his drop top Cadillac. Watch the film closly and you'll see it too, I've shot plenty of objects with a highpower rifle, if never had explosive entry debris like you see in the Zapruder film, only exit debris.

This is my lone conspiracy theory, enjoy.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-05-10 04:36am

Mob hit fired from a sewar opening down the street in revenge for Robert's crackdown on their activities, after they helped John shoe-in the election.

Oswald's gun was basically a piece of shit with a clunky action, making it impossible for him to fire that many shots in that amount of time.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-05-10 04:47am

Sokar wrote:For thoes of us who enjoy these things, if Oswald did it alone , he was hands down the greatest markman who EVER lived. The speed and accuracy of the shots are to incredible for a lone shooter. He would have had to aim(at a target whos range was increasing with every second), and fire, as fast as he could work the bolt to have shot that many times in the time allowed. You cant fucking do it , not with that gun.

Seconded - not only is the action of the Carcano relatively slow and kind of rough, you can't hit shit with it.
Does the original Kennedy-Carcano still exist btw?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-05-10 08:33am

Lord Sander wrote: So the magic bullet theory.. was true?

Sure, why the fuck not? Bullets have taken some very fucked up paths in the past. Its got about as much support as anything else.

Posbi · Post by **Posbi** » 2003-05-10 07:23pm

Cpt_Frank wrote:
Sokar wrote:For thoes of us who enjoy these things, if Oswald did it alone , he was hands down the greatest markman who EVER lived. The speed and accuracy of the shots are to incredible for a lone shooter. He would have had to aim(at a target whos range was increasing with every second), and fire, as fast as he could work the bolt to have shot that many times in the time allowed. You cant fucking do it , not with that gun.
Seconded - not only is the action of the Carcano relatively slow and kind of rough, you can't hit shit with it.
Does the original Kennedy-Carcano still exist btw?

Anyway, wasn't also the scope damaged? And according to Oswald's comrades in the Marine Corps he was less than a mediocre gunman, read: he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn, even less a moving target...

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-05-10 09:04pm

Cpt_Frank wrote:
Sokar wrote:For thoes of us who enjoy these things, if Oswald did it alone , he was hands down the greatest markman who EVER lived. The speed and accuracy of the shots are to incredible for a lone shooter. He would have had to aim(at a target whos range was increasing with every second), and fire, as fast as he could work the bolt to have shot that many times in the time allowed. You cant fucking do it , not with that gun.
Seconded - not only is the action of the Carcano relatively slow and kind of rough, you can't hit shit with it.
Does the original Kennedy-Carcano still exist btw?

CBS news pulled off a re-creation of the shooting with no problem shortly after the Warren report was released. Same window, same speed car, same type of rifle. I half assed fell for conspiracy theories until I saw that.
They made it look easy, too.

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2003-05-10 09:43pm

The French assisains on the grassy knoll, bridge, and railroad track from Mariselles.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-05-10 10:29pm

All of the above.

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