UN pushing for WORLD GOVERNMENT

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-05-21 06:31pm

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32662

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-05-21 06:36pm

Okay, actually the article is most likely just meant to scare some people, and the US just pulling out would put the UN in relative bankruptcy.

But yeah, there are people crazy enough to suggest it.

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-05-21 06:51pm

If it wasn't for the fact you acknowledged that you think that the article is stupid I might have been forced to maim you.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-05-21 06:55pm

weemadando wrote:If it wasn't for the fact you acknowledged that you think that the article is stupid I might have been forced to maim you.

I'll be honest. I did intially react with a bit of alarm, but then the fact that the US forms the vast majority of the UN's financial support came in.

And then the fact that the member nations wouldn't stand for it.

Now I don't think the article itself is overly stupid or anything (don't know too much about the validity of it, tried to look up the topic on BBC World Service but couldn't find it), but the idea is stupid.

Axis Kast · Post by **Axis Kast** » 2003-05-21 10:22pm

This is one of those interesting questions about sovereignty.

As a Northern, I look back at the Civil War and say, “Union at any cost.” As a New Yorker however, I look back at the Revolution – as close to home for me as the rebellion was for Southerners – and say, “God save the King.”

A realistic assessment of my region and family have led me to believe I’d have looked at local patriots as loony followers of the latest craze. After all, who’d be crazy enough to abandon the protection of the Royal Navy? Who would seek to distance themselves from what was at the time the world’s rising power? It’s during considerations like these that the words of that cavalry officer in the Gibson movie ring true. “Should have taught him something of loyalty.” I know where mine would have been.

But world government? Unless it were with a copious amount of American control or followed a horrific destruction of my own nation? Back the hell off.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-05-21 10:31pm

Ah, yes, because we know that the World News Daily is such a credible source of information and on the cutting edge when it comes to digging up facts.

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2003-05-21 10:35pm

Though the question does remain... why should the US stay in the UN when its obvious what the UN's goals are? I mean we're talking about plans for a Communist Superstate that will strip away virtually every right guaranteed by the Constitution.... the very statement of their ulimate goal should be enough of a justification for the US to pull out of the UN (and kick it out of the US). Alternativly, we could declare the UN null and void by stating that we are prementantly instituting our Veto Power on every UN resolution from this point forward.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-05-21 10:55pm

The US can't leave the UN. It's a useful tool to try and legitimize US actions in the eyes of the world- see post Iraq sanctions lifting.

The Penultimate Ninja · Post by **The Penultimate Ninja** » 2003-05-22 03:37am

I knew it. Those dirty environmentalists are trying to take over the world with their evil tree power. Well, I for one won't stand for it.

*deletes Druid character in Neverwinter Nights*

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-05-22 05:49am

BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:Though the question does remain... why should the US stay in the UN when its obvious what the UN's goals are? I mean we're talking about plans for a Communist Superstate that will strip away virtually every right guaranteed by the Constitution.... the very statement of their ulimate goal should be enough of a justification for the US to pull out of the UN (and kick it out of the US). Alternativly, we could declare the UN null and void by stating that we are prementantly instituting our Veto Power on every UN resolution from this point forward.

Well this article is crap. No system of world governance could ever exist without the willing assent of its members, amnd no member woulds assent to effective nationalisation of private property. but as I say, th article is crap on so many levels.

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2003-05-29 10:22pm

Easy on such an expression of the "nobody would be so stupid as to believe this". There are seemingly not-entirely-wacky people out there who believe.

go to www.eco.org ([url]http://www.eco.org ) I am testing out the link process. But anyway, these guys are the real thing.

Although they are the "Environmental Conservation Organization" they are unlike any enviros you have ever seen. They are essentially populist right-wing libertarians, and most of them are paranoid to death of the UN. Just go there and read some of Alan Caruba's articles (p.s. although the guy writes reasonably his arguments are dog-shit; I wrote a response to a post he made on global warming, refuting every one of his arguments without even presenting new evidence of any kind).[/url]

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-05-30 01:39am

I wouldnt mind a world government, but fucking hell not run by the US or any popularly elected representatives. By a popularly elected and tested body of people whos job it is to prevent unconstitutional law from being made by consuls they elected, yes.

Can you see I'd only accept it if it were my ideal empire?

Seriously tho, I wouldnt care if there were a one world government, so long as its run by sane people (perhaps the Dutch) and not by popularly elected nutcases like the American government is. Besides, we don't need the religious nutcases in other countries getting a vote that will only go to inhibit the rights of others.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-05-30 09:22am

The US can't leave the UN according the UN charter either

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-05-30 09:30am

NecronLord wrote:The US can't leave the UN according the UN charter either

I doubt the UN will be in a position to complain after the first tank volley...

A world goverment run by anybody is an awful idea.

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2003-05-30 11:40am

Bah, I'm not worried.

Tell me when Gog of Magog attacks Israel, then you'll have my attention

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-05-30 12:05pm

Lonestar wrote:
Tell me when Gog of Magog attacks Israel, then you'll have my attention

I swear that sounds like a Power Rangers villain.

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2003-05-30 12:14pm

Vympel wrote:
I swear that sounds like a Power Rangers villain.

Ignorant Heathen.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-05-30 12:21pm

We don't really need the UN, but they sure as hell need us. Frankly I was always suspicious of them and their motives. They are so many politcal games played behind the scenes in that suposedly benign buearcracy but there are always disturbing things behind the surface if you just do some digging, for instance did you know that when the UN asked for peace keepers to go into Somalia that the Secretary General (forgive me I just blanked on his name as I wrote this) was a leading member of the clan opposing General Aidid? Coincidence? I don't beleive in coincidences.

Despite my suspicions I know that there is no way in hell they could achieve a world government so I scoff at the UN Black Helicopter crowd.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-05-30 12:28pm

Stravo wrote:
Despite my suspicions I know that there is no way in hell they could achieve a world government so I scoff at the UN Black Helicopter crowd.

Last I heard, the Black Helicopters are actually microscopic and are flying around inside our brains as we speak!

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-05-30 12:35pm

We will have a world government after North America and Australia join the E.U.

What? That's a lot more credible than the U.N actually getting the job..

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-05-30 03:13pm

Stravo wrote:Despite my suspicions I know that there is no way in hell they could achieve a world government so I scoff at the UN Black Helicopter crowd.

*Ninjas leap on Stravo from behind, place a chloroform-soaked rag over his face, gag and bind him and drag him from the room*

What black helicopters?

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-05-30 03:14pm

Vympel wrote:Last I heard, the Black Helicopters are actually microscopic and are flying around inside our brains as we speak!

*Ninjas gag Vympel and drag him to mental institution*

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-05-30 06:27pm

Yeah. Right. Being the UN is like being the lunch monitor at an inner city high school, but with less power.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-05-31 04:00am

Colonel Olrik wrote:We will have a world government after North America and Australia join the E.U.

What? That's a lot more credible than the U.N actually getting the job..

*snorts* We'll have a world government after the USA has to go back to Europe and liberate you poor bastards from yourselves again, and then decides to make you all states this time so we don't have to do it a fourth.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-05-31 04:01am

(And, yes, the article is stupid - the U.N. can't even push for, well, anything.)