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socially Conservative or Liberal?

socially Conservative
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17%
Liberal
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83%
 
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Post by Nathan F »

OK, assuming that there is no middle of the road or extreeme, but you are either Socially Conservative or Socially Liberal. No moderate, no ultra-conservative, no ultra-liberal, simply conservative or liberal. You have to fall into one or the other.

EDIT: revised to clarify that we are talking about social conservatism, not fiscal conservatism.
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What the hell does that mean? Are we talking about fiscal conservatism vs liberalism, social conservatism vs liberalism, or both at once? If it's both at once, the question becomes impossible to answer because I'm a social liberal and a fiscal conservative.
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Darth Wong wrote:What the hell does that mean? Are we talking about fiscal conservatism vs liberalism, social conservatism vs liberalism, or both at once? If it's both at once, the question becomes impossible to answer because I'm a social liberal and a fiscal conservative.
Guess I should have clarified that. I was actually meaning social conservatism/liberalism.

Could you please edit my post to say "...but you are either socially Conservative or Liberal."
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Nathan F wrote:Guess I should have clarified that. I was actually meaning social conservatism/liberalism.

Could you please edit my post to say "...but you are either socially Conservative or Liberal."
OK, no problem.
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Socially Conservative Fascist. :)
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Liberal (by U.S., European as well as Finnish standards).
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Moderately liberal by U.S. standards (support gay rights, abortion, absolute secularism in government, but don't support affirmative action at all). Don't know where I am by Euro standards.
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Liberal. I'm pro gay marriage, pro affirmative action, pro secularism...
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Centrist by European standards, so of course, in America, I am an evil liberal commie.
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SirNitram wrote:Centrist by European standards, so of course, in America, I am an evil liberal commie.
the same here, and poll fixed.
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I lean to the left on social issues, but I'm fiscally conservative. I'd say that would make me a right-of-center conservative.
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I'm a liberal hippie, except I have short hair and wear a uniform.
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How liberal do you have to be to be a liberal by European standards?
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Durran Korr wrote:How liberal do you have to be to be a liberal by European standards?
Well, I dunno what you mean by 'how liberal'. Nationalized health care is pretty much the norm. Communists are still definately Liberal extremists. Socialists aren't really seen as extreme.
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SirNitram wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:How liberal do you have to be to be a liberal by European standards?
Well, I dunno what you mean by 'how liberal'. Nationalized health care is pretty much the norm. Communists are still definately Liberal extremists. Socialists aren't really seen as extreme.
No, no, socially liberal.
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I guess moderately liberal. I support gay rights, separation of church and state, but not affirmative action (or at least, not in the way it's currently implemented).
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gahh, Liberal has a different meaning here. Liberal is the traditional English whig for us but by your terms I would be a liberal in most respects
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Moderately liberal.

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I am a social libertarian.. No censorship, gay rights, no affirmative action completely secular government etc etc etc.
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bleeding heart liberal bordering on evil socialist.

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Socially liberal. Like many here it seems, I support gay rights, separation of church and state, and so forth, though not affirmative action in the way it's currently implimented.
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