So where stands General Clark?

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-10-16 12:33pm

I've been looking over his campaign website at americansforclark.com and wondering, exactly where does the General stand on the issues? It seems that he has a pretty long-term view of where the country is headed, but precious little detail is given on where we're going NOW. So any SDNetter Clark supporters, now is the time to convince me: Why should I support Wesley Clark and not Howard Dean?

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-10-16 12:46pm

Couldn't it be President Dean and Vice President Clark?

I have no idea where any of them stand on the issues. I'm allowed to be superficial though, since I'm not American so it doesn't affect me. Though Dean does seem to be the one to beat. Unfortunately, Bush will win in 2004 by virtue of more voting BS- expect dramatic upsets thanks to crappy, bug riddled, easily hackable voting machines desinged by Republican-leaning companies who have promised publically to "deliver votes to Bush" in 2004. Toss in the bone tossed to the Cuban Americans recently about liberating Cuba, and voila.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-10-16 12:52pm

Vympel wrote:Couldn't it be President Dean and Vice President Clark?

Not if Dean names someone else as his running mate. Though it'd be pretty funny if Dean and Clark named each other as their running mates.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-10-16 02:22pm

After Al Qaeda attacked America, retired Gen. Wes Clark thought the Bush administration would invite him to join its team. After all, he?d been NATO commander, he knew how to build military coalitions and the investment firm he now worked for had strong Bush ties. But when GOP friends inquired, they were told: forget it.

WORD WAS THAT Karl Rove, the president's political mastermind, had blocked the idea. Clark was furious. Last January, at a conference in Switzerland, he happened to chat with two prominent Republicans, Colorado Gov. Bill Owens and Marc Holtzman, now president of the University of Denver. "I would have been a Republican," Clark told them, "if Karl Rove had returned my phone calls."

From Newsweek.

What does this say about Clark's committment to the ideals and policies of the Democratic party?

theski · Post by **theski** » 2003-10-16 02:50pm

This might help...

http://www.geocities.com/concernedaboutclark/

would vote for any of the Democratic nominees except Wesley Clark. After doing a good deal of research I find him to be one of the most dangerous politicians in America. Today we have tense relationships with several countries and military operations in at least two. The one thing that we cannot afford is an erratic, trigger-happy, dishonest, testy, petulant kind of militaristic leader. We do not need someone that is so disliked by his fellow military men that none of them attended his candidacy announcement and even the General who fired him from the military, called him a “nut”. (1) Clark is a man who micromanages his subordinates, goes around his superiors, and tells people what they want to hear even when it isn’t the truth. (2,3) In short this is not a person who would be able to forge good relationships with international leaders or work well with congress and the vast diverse group of people that a good president must be able to work with. In fact, this is yet another president who “does not play well with others.” But unlike Bush this is someone who does not take direction from other people. This is someone whose ego is so tied up with his own self-importance that he goes off alone without taking the advice of others and makes strange and dangerous military decisions. (4,5) I can think of nothing more frightening.

This and more... and lots of References...

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-10-16 03:24pm

Durran Korr wrote: What does this say about Clark's committment to the ideals and policies of the Democratic party?

Clark is running for president of the US, not president of the DNC. What you should be asking yourself is how does Clark's ideals and policies compare to yours.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-10-16 03:25pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:
Durran Korr wrote: What does this say about Clark's committment to the ideals and policies of the Democratic party?
Clark is running for president of the US, not president of the DNC. What you should be asking yourself is how does Clark's ideals and policies compare to yours.

Actually, he's currently running to be the Democratic Candidate.

That would suggest that him being Republican would be, you know, ridiculous.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-10-16 03:29pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:
Durran Korr wrote: What does this say about Clark's committment to the ideals and policies of the Democratic party?
Clark is running for president of the US, not president of the DNC. What you should be asking yourself is how does Clark's ideals and policies compare to yours.

I'm not a Democrat, but I wouldn't expect them to run someone who isn't really committed to their party.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-10-16 04:27pm

Durran Korr wrote:I'm not a Democrat, but I wouldn't expect them to run someone who isn't really committed to their party.

Parties change. Maybe if Clark is elected president, he will redefine the Democratic party, making it something better in the process.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-10-16 04:40pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:I'm not a Democrat, but I wouldn't expect them to run someone who isn't really committed to their party.
Parties change. Maybe if Clark is elected president, he will redefine the Democratic party, making it something better in the process.

They usually don't change while they're selecting their canidate though.

Worlds Spanner · Post by **Worlds Spanner** » 2003-10-16 06:14pm

Vympel wrote:Couldn't it be President Dean and Vice President Clark?

I think this would be a great ticket. Have the Southern general on it, but let the person who is actually a Democrat, actually has reasonable policies, and actually has a message other than dislike por particular people in the Bush administration be the Presidential candidate.