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VIRGINIA BEACH, Virginia (CNN) -- Sniper suspect John Allen Muhammad denied any involvement in the shootings in his opening statements Monday, after the judge granted an unexpected motion allowing him to represent himself.

"I had nothing to do with the crime," he told the jury. "I had nothing at all to do with the crime -- and they know this. And please pay attention-- my life and my son's life -- is on the line," Muhammad said, apparently a reference to fellow suspect Lee Boyd Malvo.

Muhammad also gave a discourse on "truth."

"There's three truths. The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I always thought there was just one truth," he said in a report by The Associated Press. "The facts should help us identify what's a lie, what's not a lie," he said.

Muhammad is charged with murder, terrorism, conspiracy and illegal use of a firearm. He faces a possible death sentence if convicted on the murder or terrorism counts.

Muhammad, 42, is on trial in the slaying of Dean Harold Meyers, a Vietnam combat veteran who was gunned down outside a northern Virginia gas station last October. Myers was the seventh victim of a three-week shooting spree that left 10 people dead in Virginia, Maryland and Washington, D.C. Three other people survived gunshot wounds suffered during the spree.

Muhammad and Malvo – who faces a separate trial beginning next month -- were arrested together, sleeping in a car at a highway rest stop in Maryland. Prosecutors have said the shootings were part of a plot to extort $10 million from the government.

Muhammad made the motion just minutes before opening arguments were scheduled to begin.

Judge LeRoy F. Millette Jr. said Muhammad's defense team, Peter Greenspun and Jonathan Shapiro, will serve as his standby counsel.

Prior to Monday's ruling, Muhammad refused to cooperate with what appeared to be defense attorneys' plans to show he has mental health problems. He refused to be examined by defense psychiatric expert Park Dietz, against the advice of his lawyers.

Assistant Commonwealth Attorney James Willett began his statements by placing a dark bag on the prosecution's table and slowly assembling pieces of the Bushmaster rifle the prosecution believes was used in the sniper shooting. (Possible evidence)

He then handed it to a deputy sheriff for inspection, and when it was handed back, he clicked the rifle's folding bi-pod legs out and rested it on the prosecution's table.

Willett also showed the jury photographs of a hole in Muhammad's car that authorities say he and his alleged accomplice, 18-year-old Lee Boyd Malvo, shot through, so they could fire without being seen.

"There will be no eyewitness testimony in any of these shootings, that is how clever he (Muhammad) is," Willett said.

Willett told jurors he would describe 16 shootings allegedly involving Muhammad, including shootings in Montgomery, Alabama, and Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

One of the capital murder charges requires prosecutors to prove the defendant committed at least two shootings in a three-year period, but prosecutors have not said how many of the crimes they intend to discuss during the trial.

During his opening statement, Willett referred to a large chart showing photographs of shooting victims. Beneath each picture was a photograph of Muhammad's dark Chevrolet Caprice, if the car was believed to have been used in that person's shooting, and a picture of the gun or guns believed linked to each crime.

The Bushmaster rifle was linked to the D.C.-area shootings and a .22 caliber pistol was used in earlier shootings, prosecutors said.

Malvo may be one of the first people called into court.

The teen's attorney, Michael Arif, has said Malvo had been "invited" to appear, but that he is not sure why. He theorized prosecutors might want to use Malvo for identification purposes.

Malvo was brought to Virginia Beach Sunday morning, sheriff's deputies there said.

Members of Meyers' family, including two of his brothers were in court for Monday's proceedings.

"We'll receive a certain measure of closure by becoming intimately familiar with whatever details are available about what really happened on October 9th, 2002, and as a result we'll be able to take steps toward closure," Bob Meyers told CNN. "But the truth is, closure will probably never fully come."
This should prove interesting. my favorite part of his defense so far is the "There are three kinds of truth: the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth."

Does anyone else from the NY area remember the trial of that gunman that walked through the LIRR train shooting white people? I forget his name but he represented himself and it was truly pathetic to see him in action.
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At least the moron will be saving the cost of a lawyer. At this point it seems he's pretty much guilty or very, very stupid innocent.
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Moron! You can't represent yourself in court! Oh well. I'm glad he's doing this, since now it's practically guaranteed the the prosecution will wring the biggest sentence out of him that they can.
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Hey, if it results in a conviction and the DEATH penalty, he can't go and
say that "my lawyer screwed me" :twisted:
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What is it about islamic fundamentalists that makes them think they would better represent themselves than a lawyer? Morons. (reference mohammed Atta)
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MKSheppard wrote:Hey, if it results in a conviction and the DEATH penalty, he can't go and
say that "my lawyer screwed me" :twisted:
Wanna bet? I gurantee that if he gets the death penalty, he'll get a real lawyer and appeal on the grounds that he did not recieve proper legal representation and demand a retrial.
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MKSheppard wrote:Hey, if it results in a conviction and the DEATH penalty, he can't go and
say that "my lawyer screwed me" :twisted:
Wanna bet? I gurantee that if he gets the death penalty, he'll get a real lawyer and appeal on the grounds that he did not recieve proper legal representation and demand a retrial.
More likely it will be an integral part of his insanity defense. The transcripts of the trial will be ammunition showing just how crazed he is.
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Stravo wrote: More likely it will be an integral part of his insanity defense. The transcripts of the trial will be ammunition showing just how crazed he is.
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He's going to fry. He's in the most conservative court in the
area, and said court is in an area that's voted republican and
for the death penalty overwhelmingly in the last few elections.

The Judge and Jurors are going to conspire to gurantee this
'tard gets a rapid trip to the Drip 'O Death. :P
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Stormbringer wrote:At least the moron will be saving the cost of a lawyer. At this point it seems he's pretty much guilty or very, very stupid innocent.
Unfortunately when people represent themselves in major cases they generally still get a couple lawyers to assist them.
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He's going to fry. He's in the most conservative court in the
area, and said court is in an area that's voted republican and
for the death penalty overwhelmingly in the last few elections.

The Judge and Jurors are going to conspire to gurantee this
'tard gets a rapid trip to the Drip 'O Death. :P
As I recall, didn't something like 79 out of 88 potential jurors say he should get the death penalty out of hand during their interviews?
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I love it when criminals try to defend themselves. My favourite was the subway shooter who asked a victim to identify his attacker, and of course, the guy pointed right at him :lol:
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Stravo wrote:Does anyone else from the NY area remember the trial of that gunman that walked through the LIRR train shooting white people? I forget his name but he represented himself and it was truly pathetic to see him in action.
Colin Ferguson. I remember watching some of that. It would have been funny if six people hadn't died because of him.
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Stravo wrote:More likely it will be an integral part of his insanity defense. The transcripts of the trial will be ammunition showing just how crazed he is.
But if he is refusing an insanity plea and even a psychiatric review, wouldn't that make an appeal on that basis even tougher.

I came across this while reviewing some of the Ferguson info:

Kuby and other observers insisted Ferguson should not have been allowed to defend himself. His conduct of the trial and his decision not to use the highly plausible plea, "not guilty by reason of insanity," demonstrated his lack of fitness for trial, they claimed. Even if he had been committed to state psychiatric institutions for the rest of his life, many believed, the justice system would have been spared the mockery of its system by an obviously insane man

The counter-argument, however, centers on personal autonomy and the Constitution. The Sixth Amendment guarantees American criminal defendants control of their own defense. So long as a defendant is capable of putting forth a comprehensible defensive strategy, it is argued, the same government that seeks to imprison him should not interfere with his freedom.
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Darth Wong wrote:I love it when criminals try to defend themselves. My favourite was the subway shooter who asked a victim to identify his attacker, and of course, the guy pointed right at him :lol:
That got turned into a great Saturday Night Live skit.
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Darth Wong wrote:I love it when criminals try to defend themselves. My favourite was the subway shooter who asked a victim to identify his attacker, and of course, the guy pointed right at him :lol:
My local favorite was a purse-snatcher who represented himself. His first question: "Did you get a good look at my face when I robbed you?"

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Well, at least we get to draw some humour value out of this now.
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sounds as bad as the criminals that were taped as thy ribed a store one went to get the video camera to remove the evidence....idiot looked right into the lense at close range before the tape cut off
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Chardok wrote:What is it about islamic fundamentalists that makes them think they would better represent themselves than a lawyer? Morons. (reference mohammed Atta)
Well those people have no idea about how the US legal system works so you can forgive them for their ignorence. Besides what good would lawyers do when the entire US goverment ( and the whole world) is biased against them.
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Does anyone else from the NY area remember the trial of that gunman that walked through the LIRR train shooting white people? I forget his name but he represented himself and it was truly pathetic to see him in action.
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evilcat4000 wrote: Well those people have no idea about how the US legal system works so you can forgive them for their ignorence. Besides what good would lawyers do when the entire US goverment ( and the whole world) is biased against them.
Zacarias Moussaoui seems to be doing a pretty good job of making a hash of the prosecution's efforts--however, he has a law degree (albeit a French one, but that's close enough when it comes down to it).
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He is no longer representing himself according to CNN. Which is good because when he is found guilty he can't appeal and say he was not properly defended according to our judicial system.

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I love it when criminals try to defend themselves. My favourite was the subway shooter who asked a victim to identify his attacker, and of course, the guy pointed right at him
Did he not see that answer comming?
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