Salute to the engineers who were behind this truly great achievement. I'm still amazed that they were able to fix one from earth.LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- With their primary goal of finding signs of water on Mars achieved, NASA's twin robot-geologists soon will make tracks across the Red Planet's barren surface until their batteries run out, NASA officials said on Thursday.
The rovers, each carrying a suite of scientific tools, were finishing tests in and around two craters on opposite sides of the planet where scientists have found hoped-for clues that liquid water played a part in forming rocks and soil.
Earlier this month, the rover Opportunity uncovered geologic evidence that its landing site on the flat, featureless Meridiani Planum once was covered with water.
Three days later, scientists announced that Opportunity's twin, Spirit, discovered signs that small amounts of water once welled up in the soil of Gusev Crater, the Connecticut-sized depression where the rover landed on January 3, and left behind small holes, or vugs, in rocks.
Both rovers are nearing the end of their planned 90-day missions with enough life left in their solar-powered batteries to attempt long drives across the planet's surface in search of more geologic information.
Spirit continued a tour of the edge of a small impact crater dubbed Bonneville, stopping periodically to sample the soil and to take photos.
The Spirit team was particularly intrigued by a high resolution image that seemed to show the lip of Gusev Crater which once may have held a lake, deputy project scientist Albert Haldemann said.
The rim appears to be about 50 miles away, and is visible for the first time since a dust storm clouded the martian sky in December, Haldemann said.
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Spirit, now in the 74th martian day -- or sol -- of its mission, will complete its study of Bonneville in a few sols and turn southeast toward a range of low hills that may hold further clues about the planet's geologic composition.
At Meridiani Planum, Opportunity spent its 53rd sol scuffing the dirt in the floor of its landing site in Eagle Crater, and measuring the disturbed soil with the spectrometers and microscopic imager on its robotic arm.
Opportunity has spent its life on Mars examining an outcrop of finely layered bedrock that scientists believe gave clear evidence that salt water once flowed or pooled in the area.
The rover spent the last few sols examining a shallow bowl formation where spherical rocks nicknamed "blueberries" have accumulated. Test results showed that the blueberries contained large amounts of the mineral hematite, which on Earth commonly forms in water, scientist Andrew Knoll said on Thursday.
"The story of hematite at this outcrop is the story of an interaction between water and rock," Knoll said. "We think we are going to find that those plains [outside the crater] are just littered with blueberries."
Opportunity is slated to climb out of the Eagle crater for the first time in about three sols and begin driving across the plains.
Mission manager Mark Adler said an upgrade in software planned for both rovers at the end of March will conserve the vehicles' dwindling energy and make them faster drivers by turning off their hazard avoidance systems.
The new software will enable Spirit to travel about 50 meters (164 ft) a day at rocky Gusev Crater, and Opportunity to go 100 meters (328 ft) daily on the smooth Planum, Adler said.
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God. I was in such a good mood before I saw this. THANKS A TON NATHAN! I do hope the batteries/solar cells last much much longer than their 90-day life. God...what an adventure this has been! The things we've learned not only about mars but planetary probing in general! I'm very excited for the future! Shutting up now.
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Exciting because we reached and had photos from Mars, and disappointing because of the apparent barreness of the place, and lack of evidence for any possibility for life there.
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After a while, the rovers get covered with dust, so they can't run on solar forever.Chardok wrote:God. I was in such a good mood before I saw this. THANKS A TON NATHAN! I do hope the batteries/solar cells last much much longer than their 90-day life. God...what an adventure this has been! The things we've learned not only about mars but planetary probing in general! I'm very excited for the future! Shutting up now.
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Have they ever thought about putting windshield wipers on the solar panels?CaptainChewbacca wrote:After a while, the rovers get covered with dust, so they can't run on solar forever.
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Or using miniture nuclear batteries?Crayz9000 wrote:Have they ever thought about putting windshield wipers on the solar panels?CaptainChewbacca wrote:After a while, the rovers get covered with dust, so they can't run on solar forever.
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Didn't the Voyager series use nuclear power?ggs wrote:Or using miniture nuclear batteries?Crayz9000 wrote:Have they ever thought about putting windshield wipers on the solar panels?CaptainChewbacca wrote:After a while, the rovers get covered with dust, so they can't run on solar forever.
Nuclear-decay based power takes up considerable space, is mechanically rather fragile, gives little power and weighs a great deal. It is a very bad choice for a small rover that lands by bouncing for a half mile.
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Exactly. They put nuclear decay on 1200 pound probes that are going to be flying through space for many years. On something as small as a rover, its overkill.Howedar wrote:Nuclear-decay based power takes up considerable space, is mechanically rather fragile, gives little power and weighs a great deal. It is a very bad choice for a small rover that lands by bouncing for a half mile.
And I guess wipers are impractical, though I'm not sure why.
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They got away with sticking an RTG on Viking because it made a softer landing than either of the rovers, and they didn't have to go anywhere after they landed. And some estimates I heard place the life expectancy of the rover power systems at upwards of 240 days.ggs wrote:Or using miniture nuclear batteries?Crayz9000 wrote:Have they ever thought about putting windshield wipers on the solar panels?CaptainChewbacca wrote:After a while, the rovers get covered with dust, so they can't run on solar forever.
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Probably because of weight concerns. The wiper blade and motor are just additional bulk, and they are not required for operation of the rover; they can just maybe extend its operational life.CaptainChewbacca wrote:And I guess wipers are impractical, though I'm not sure why.
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Did anyone ever hear what happened to the probes Deep Space One and Deep Space 2, the ones that were supposed to run on the new "Ion Engines". This was about 5 years ago, but I never heard much about it since. I just remember them being allegedly much faster than traditional engines.Or using miniture nuclear batteries?
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Ion engines accelerate probes or ships over very long distances very slowly, but they accelerate for such long periods that they are able to accumulate much higher speeds than traditional chemical motors. I'm not sure about the inner workings of them.The Albino Raven wrote:Did anyone ever hear what happened to the probes Deep Space One and Deep Space 2, the ones that were supposed to run on the new "Ion Engines". This was about 5 years ago, but I never heard much about it since. I just remember them being allegedly much faster than traditional engines.Or using miniture nuclear batteries?
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They work by passing chemical ions through a charged grid, achieving insane exit velocities for said ions. However, the force produced is only enough to hold up a piece of paper if you were at Earth's surface.Nathan F wrote:Ion engines accelerate probes or ships over very long distances very slowly, but they accelerate for such long periods that they are able to accumulate much higher speeds than traditional chemical motors. I'm not sure about the inner workings of them.
I don't know if Deep Space 2 has launched yet -- might want to check Space.com -- but Deep Space 1 finished its mission a while ago, and even did an extended mission. Both were successful in testing the experimental hardware aboard the probe, and the ion engine did as it was supposed to.
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Try using wipers to wipe off dry, fine-grained, sharp-edged, statically-attached dust from a glass surface. Without scratching it.CaptainChewbacca wrote:And I guess wipers are impractical, though I'm not sure why.
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So? Windex will fix that. Windex fixes anythingShadowhawk wrote:Try using wipers to wipe off dry, fine-grained, sharp-edged, statically-attached dust from a glass surface. Without scratching it.
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maybe could have fitted it with tearoffs like the motorcross people use on their goggles when its raining. they dont need the rover to last forever so that may work for the time its up there
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Ehh, probably the most practical solution for a theoretical future rover is to have it fold up its solar panels at night, like some species of flowers do here on Earth. While it won't eliminate the problem of dust collecting on the solar arrays, it will cut in half the amount of time each day the solar arrays can collect dust.Nathan F wrote:Would some sort of compressed air blower be better suited? Or a brush of some sort?
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The atmosphere is pretty thin, I'd bet the power requirements for that would be prohibitive. It would also weigh a fair amount. And the heavier the rover, the heavier the overall Lander is and that makes it harder to land.Nathan F wrote:Would some sort of compressed air blower be better suited? Or a brush of some sort?
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