New concern about Russian nuclear powered vessels

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2004-03-23 03:59pm

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It seems that a Russian Admiral recently stated that the nuclear powered missile cruiser Pyotr Veliky could "blow up at any minute" (but later retracted the statement).

Saftey on the nuclear vessels of the underfunded Russian Navy has been a concern for years, but this is the most serious statement a Russian official has ever made about it...

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-03-23 04:11pm

*anxiously awaits Vympel's lecture on the superiority of Russian naval vessels.

seriously though a couple of 300 megawatt reactors melting down at sea isn't a pretty thought.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-03-23 04:15pm

I'm sorry to say that it's going to take a full blown disaster before anyone gives enough of a shit to take action.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-03-23 04:19pm

The Kernel wrote:I'm sorry to say that it's going to take a full blown disaster before anyone gives enough of a shit to take action.

even then the Russians can't afford to do shit about it. A damn shame to. The Kirov's are beautiful ships, and a damn fine design concept.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2004-03-23 04:27pm

It seems that a Russian Admiral recently stated that the nuclear powered missile cruiser Pyotr Veliky could "blow up at any minute" (but later retracted the statement).

Blowing up... I hope he meant melt down? If not... I wonder, could Russian nuclear-powered craft perhaps have had some kind of last-ditch suicide device built in? I realize that it'd be nearly impossible to cause a reactor to blow up, but a Cherynobl-type meltdown after being captured, if in the midst of the enemy fleet, would seem to be a pretty nasty way of inflicting losses upon the other fleet. The irradiated ships would have to be either decontimated immediately or abandoned...

I know, extremely wild idea, but considering the Russian mentality, I wouldn't be surprised... they're the people who massacred several million Ukranian military to castrate the country, ravaged Germany in their retaliation for Germany's invasion of Russia...

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-03-23 04:33pm

Elheru Aran wrote:Blowing up... I hope he meant melt down?

He meant neither, the ship is going to be in port for two weeks. At this point it's PR to try to end someone's career.

If not... I wonder, could Russian nuclear-powered craft perhaps have had some kind of last-ditch suicide device built in?

No.

I realize that it'd be nearly impossible to cause a reactor to blow up, but a Cherynobl-type meltdown after being captured, if in the midst of the enemy fleet, would seem to be a pretty nasty way of inflicting losses upon the other fleet.

You can't blow up a reactor.
You don't capture ships.
If you do, they aren't sitting in the middle of a fleet.
If you had a reactor meltdown, it would burn through the hull and sink into the ocean.
If you somehow had a Chernobyl sort of disaster on a ship in the middle of an enemy fleet, all modern ships are equipped to deal with fallout and such.

The irradiated ships would have to be either decontimated immediately or abandoned...

They can be, and no they wouldn't have to be.

I know, extremely wild idea, but considering the Russian mentality, I wouldn't be surprised... they're the people who massacred several million Ukranian military to castrate the country, ravaged Germany in their retaliation for Germany's invasion of Russia...

I would be surprised, because frankly it's the dumbest idea I've heard all day.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2004-03-23 04:37pm

You know in some lanugaues Hull is spelled as Hell or so says the little voices

Not that has anything to do with anything, but regadless any sort of reactor fuckup makes a great eco-disastor

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2004-03-23 04:54pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:
The Kernel wrote:I'm sorry to say that it's going to take a full blown disaster before anyone gives enough of a shit to take action.
even then the Russians can't afford to do shit about it. A damn shame to. The Kirov's are beautiful ships, and a damn fine design concept.

Aircraft Carriers>Surface Combatants

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Post by **Vympel** » 2004-03-23 09:32pm

*anxiously awaits Vympel's lecture on the superiority of Russian naval vessels.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2004-03-23 09:34pm

Vympel wrote:
*anxiously awaits Vympel's lecture on the superiority of Russian naval vessels.

Well that was a decided let down ... c'mon give us some 80's style Soviet propaganda, for old times sake?

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-03-23 09:39pm

Ma Deuce wrote:
Aircraft Carriers>Surface Combatants .

3M45/P-700 Granit> Aircraft Carriers

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2004-03-23 09:53pm

Vympel wrote:
Ma Deuce wrote:
Aircraft Carriers>Surface Combatants .
3M45/P-700 Granit> Aircraft Carriers

CVBG air defences (AEGIS)>P-700/3M45 Granit.

3 squadrons of F/A-18C+2 Harpoons each>Kirov

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