Downing Street has admitted to The Observer that repeated claims by Tony Blair that '400,000 bodies had been found in Iraqi mass graves' is untrue, and only about 5,000 corpses have so far been uncovered.
Downing Street admits "mass graves" claim untrue
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5,000 bodies is still a mass grave, but... yikes... it's one thing for a grave to have 5,000, and another for it to have almost half a million.
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It does not say 5000 in one grave unless I'm reading that completely wrong.
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1. Yes, it does feel nice to have earlier assertions proven true.
2. This will make it easier for Saddam to pull a "Milosivich" in his "trial".
2. This will make it easier for Saddam to pull a "Milosivich" in his "trial".
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Perhaps we should give him the "Humanitarian of the year award"? Or the UN could appoint him to the Human right comission along with the Libyans and Sudanese IIRC...
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Sure, right after Bush/Blair and Co. get the 'I'm a Real Boy' Award.CJvR wrote:Perhaps we should give him the "Humanitarian of the year award"? Or the UN could appoint him to the Human right comission along with the Libyans and Sudanese IIRC...
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Yup, it doesn't say that- of the graves they've gone over, total has been 5,000, with wildly varying numbers from one grave to the next.Howedar wrote:It does not say 5000 in one grave unless I'm reading that completely wrong.
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You mean we went to war over a LIE?!? OMG?!?
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Though, I think they've drug out his trial long enough. Time to wrap up this turd.
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Though, I think they've drug out his trial long enough. Time to wrap up this turd.
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But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
No, we went to war retro-actively over a lie. Or something. The causality of the whole thing is very messed up.Knife wrote:You mean we went to war over a LIE?!? OMG?!?
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Vympel wrote:No, we went to war retro-actively over a lie. Or something. The causality of the whole thing is very messed up.Knife wrote:You mean we went to war over a LIE?!? OMG?!?
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Not if you figure it as, we went to war becasue we though we were right. We accepted the lie because it was the justification to go to war not the reason itself.
Marketing. Just like Iraq. Bush gets slammed for his 'lies' when really it was the justification not the reason.
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They say, "the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." I suppose it never occurred to them that they are the tyrants, not the patriots. Those weapons are not being used to fight some kind of tyranny; they are bringing them to an event where people are getting together to talk. -Mike Wong
But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
Uh, Saddam's trial is going to be rigged like a pro wrestling match. Bush's stooges in Iraq can't risk giving him anything resembling a fair trial. He has too much dirt on them and it will turn into a farce like the Milosevic trial. When the timing is convenient for Bush, his quislings in Baghdad will get a rope and an oak tree and that will be that.BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:1. Yes, it does feel nice to have earlier assertions proven true.
2. This will make it easier for Saddam to pull a "Milosivich" in his "trial".
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Correct me if i'm wrong, and sorry if this is off topic, but as i understand it Milosivich himself didnt 'pull a Milosivich', they just didnt have credible or at least adequate evidence of his envolvement in most of the war crimes, and several witnesses caved under cross examination.
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The case against Milosevic is getting DESTROYED. The ONLY example the prosecution had of a mass-grave might not have been his, and may have been from the second world war.18-Till-I-Die wrote:Correct me if i'm wrong, and sorry if this is off topic, but as i understand it Milosivich himself didnt 'pull a Milosivich', they just didnt have credible or at least adequate evidence of his envolvement in most of the war crimes, and several witnesses caved under cross examination.
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