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US states sue over global warming

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12:29 22 July 04

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Eight US states and New York City filed a lawsuit against five US power companies for their contribution to global warming, in a historic action on Wednesday.

The states - citing resistance from the federal government - are banding together to force the utility companies to cut their carbon dioxide emissions by at least 3 per cent per year for 10 years.

"If we do not act soon, the steps we will need to take to prevent global warming will be much greater and much harder," says New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer.

He says the companies - American Electric Power Company, the Southern Company, Tennessee Valley Authority, Xcel Energy Inc, and Cinergy Corporation - were chosen because they are the five largest carbon dioxide emitters in the US, operating 174 power plants in 20 states.

"These companies together emit 650 million tons of carbon dioxide each year - 10 percent of the country's carbon dioxide and more than all of the UK," he adds.

The plaintiffs - which also include California, Connecticut, Iowa, New Jersey, New York state, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Wisconsin - say the federal government has failed to take action on the problem.


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Carbon dioxide, unlike acid rain-producing sulphur dioxide, for example, is not listed as a "criteria" pollutant regulated by the federal Clean Air Act. Despite appeals to add it to the law, the current administration has refused.

"We're here because the federal government has abdicated its responsibility - as it did with tobacco - and the states are filling the breach," says Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal, referring to a multi-billion-dollar settlement paid to states by tobacco companies.

The states are invoking a long-held "public nuisance" law aimed at protecting property owners from the actions of their neighbours. "Carbon dioxide doesn't respect state boundaries - we receive all of the pollution and none of the power" from out-of-state plants, Blumenthal says.

"It's the problem being attacked and the use of nuisance law that I think is remarkable here," Dan Esty, director of the Yale Center for Environmental Law and Policy in New Haven, Connecticut, told New Scientist. The law applies only in the absence of a comprehensive federal regulatory law, so Esty says the case will likely hinge on whether or not the Clean Air Act comprehensively accounts for greenhouse gases.


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The suit is seeking no monetary damages - simply a steady reduction in carbon dioxide emissions over a decade. Spitzer said increasing the plants' efficiency, switching to cleaner-burning fuels, and using wind or solar power were among the "technologically and economically feasible" fixes his team had studied.

But power companies remain sceptical. "I would like to see their data on that," says Pat Hemlepp, spokesman for American Electric Power (AEP), the country's largest electricity generator. Switching from coal to natural gas, for example, would drive the price of natural gas even higher than it is, raising energy costs for consumers, he told New Scientist.

Outside observers believe the suit could start a trend. "If the states win the lawsuit, this would open up the door for other actions," says Nathan Alley, former editor of the New York University Environmental Law Journal. "Maybe Congress and the Environmental Protection Agency would decide that, rather than allowing this piecemeal litigation, they should include carbon dioxide in the Clean Air Act."


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This is interesting. I was starting to get the impression that no-one in power in the US so much as believes in the possibility of global warming, so this was a nice suprise.

Anyone have any idea how it will turn out?
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And the answer is.... build more nuclear power plants.
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I doubt it will have any effect, there is enough sense in the U.S. to not buy into this shit (the Senate rejected Kyoto unanimously, after all).
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Son of the Suns wrote:And the answer is.... build more nuclear power plants.
But nuclear is scary and we don't understand it. You can't hug someone with nuclear arms.
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If they win, we aught to sue all those anti-nuclear activists for their role in global warming. Or maybe a class action lawsuit against the owners of hummers :roll:
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tharkûn wrote:If they win, we aught to sue all those anti-nuclear activists for their role in global warming. Or maybe a class action lawsuit against the owners of hummers :roll:
Forget global warming; they'll be able to weasel out of that one with some guff about how nuclear waste is somehow worse. No, I prefer to use a more galling accusation: accuse them of increasing the amount of radioactive waste. Coal plants, through sheer volume of coal burned, release more radioactive stuff into the environment than nuclear plants produce (and keep in one very safe place), and I think it's time someone took the anti-nuclear people to task over this.
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Have the dept of energy or the nuclear companies even attempted a public information compaign? If they havn't then half the blame lies on them for not trying to educate the masses~
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Hamel wrote:Have the dept of energy or the nuclear companies even attempted a public information compaign? If they havn't then half the blame lies on them for not trying to educate the masses~
It isn't their fault. All the positive information about the benefits of nuclear power in the world could not possibly drown out the shrieking of one ignorant but politically connected environmentalist.
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Hamel wrote:Have the dept of energy or the nuclear companies even attempted a public information compaign? If they havn't then half the blame lies on them for not trying to educate the masses~
Nope, since the energy industry is very powerful politically, and naturally they do not want the demand for fossil fuels to go down. It's funny, these industries reject environmentalists' claims, but then use environmentalists' claims to fight nuclear power.
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sketerpot wrote:
tharkûn wrote:If they win, we aught to sue all those anti-nuclear activists for their role in global warming. Or maybe a class action lawsuit against the owners of hummers :roll:
Forget global warming; they'll be able to weasel out of that one with some guff about how nuclear waste is somehow worse. No, I prefer to use a more galling accusation: accuse them of increasing the amount of radioactive waste. Coal plants, through sheer volume of coal burned, release more radioactive stuff into the environment than nuclear plants produce (and keep in one very safe place), and I think it's time someone took the anti-nuclear people to task over this.
I agree, in the interest of changing the mind of the general public, but I'm pretty sure most of the rabid anti-nuclear fuckheads are also pretty well anti-coal; the kind of people who would advocate we switch over to solar and wind for all our energy needs.
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Uraniun235 wrote:
sketerpot wrote:Forget global warming; they'll be able to weasel out of that one with some guff about how nuclear waste is somehow worse. No, I prefer to use a more galling accusation: accuse them of increasing the amount of radioactive waste. Coal plants, through sheer volume of coal burned, release more radioactive stuff into the environment than nuclear plants produce (and keep in one very safe place), and I think it's time someone took the anti-nuclear people to task over this.
I agree, in the interest of changing the mind of the general public, but I'm pretty sure most of the rabid anti-nuclear fuckheads are also pretty well anti-coal; the kind of people who would advocate we switch over to solar and wind for all our energy needs.
Fine, so we have another target. Point out that since solar and wind are not viable options for the major part of our energy needs (and aren't that "clean" anyway, it's just that you don't see the industry needed to produce them), it comes down to a choice between nuclear and fossil fuels, and they're holding back nuclear adoption and therefore promoting fossil fuels. When they say that solar and wind are too valid options yes they are yes they are! you can then go on to talk about their lack of reliability and energy density, and the inefficiency of storage devices, and pull out all the other standard-issue arguments; I'm sure you've heard them or can eaily find them with the help of Google. Fun for the whole family! :D
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Doesn't work quite as well.

You can compress the anti-coal argument into a sound-bite, and you could even structure the campaign such that it took advantage of news media (as it's a hard, inescapable fact that coal power is dirty and harmful to public health, and they could give a rundown of it on the news), but it's a bit harder to do so with solar and wind because explaining why they should be considered energy supplements and not total alternatives is a more complex issue.

It's basically not something you can polarize into "good" or bad", unlike coal, so it's harder to sway people on that.
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