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The Roe Effect?

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There is a particular theory in political circles that I find very interesting that has to do with the political effect of abortion. Not the issue but rather the practice, and how it is contributing to the decline of moderates and increase of conservatives in the US electorate. Stated simply the theory is that abortion is making the US more conservative than it normally would be. It’s named the Roe Effect after the 1973 SOTUS ruling in Roe v Wade.

The theory makes three basic sets of assumptions. The first is that liberal women are more likely to practice abortion than conservative ones. The second is that political views of the children are not absolutely determined by the environment they are raised in, and will often swing wildly relative to their parent’s views until they age to a state of maturity, but they are influenced by their parent’s views. The third is that children’s political views at this point tend, on average to reflect those of their parents by the time they become regular mature voters.

The effect of this is that the practice of abortion tends to erode the number of potential liberal voters entering the population. Conservative women by comparison are less likely to have abortions, and thus are more likely to introduce more potential conservative voters into the population. Stated more tersely, those groups that perform abortions are more likely to have declining populations and thus a declining amount of voters maturing with matching political views.

The first assumption in the theory holds out according to teen abortion statistics available online (see link). There does seem to be a correlation between the percentage of recorded abortions and how a state voted in the 2000 Presidential Election. The states with the highest abortion rates were overwhelming carried by Gore, with only 5 of the low rates voting the Democratic ticket. The WSJ has already graphed out the data –

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They readily indicate that the correlation between the measure of a Gore victory and the linear trend is roughly 50%. However, the Roe Effect is envisioned as having been building in influence (and ongoing) on Liberal populations since 1973 when the SCOTUS issued it’s ruling.

Interesting theory – what say you denizens of SD.net? Agree or disagree and why?
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Then why is Europe and Canada way more liberial in general then the US?
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The problem with that is that you are making the fourth assumption that people are having enough abortions to seriously effect the population. That's a major assumption, and one you are going to have to provide data for.

Also, you are assuming that "liberals" and "conservatives" have the same amounts of children. I could point out that families in "conservative" states, on average, tend to have more children. On top of that, conservative are more likely to impress on children that many issues are black and white, right or wrong, while more liberal parents let kids figure things out on their own more often, thus more often conservatives stay rigidly conservatives even they they grow up, no matter what.
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I'll give you a response in three months, when I'm done with my research paper on it. :P
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frigidmagi wrote:Then why is Europe and Canada way more liberial in general then the US?
Because they don't have Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and South Carolina grafted onto them?
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What I meant was if Conserveatives were more likey to have large families and imprint the children to follow in Mama and Daddy's footprints, shouldn't that hold true across the West?

Instead we see that a majority of nations with the same level of medical tech are more liberial, despite this idea. This seems to be glaring disagreement with the "Roe Effect."
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frigidmagi wrote:What I meant was if Conserveatives were more likey to have large families and imprint the children to follow in Mama and Daddy's footprints, shouldn't that hold true across the West?

Instead we see that a majority of nations with the same level of medical tech are more liberial, despite this idea. This seems to be glaring disagreement with the "Roe Effect."
The roe effect seems to depend in part on a relatively equal split of conservatives and liberals. If the population is much more liberal to begin with, even after abortion they could still be producing enough children to match conservative segments of the population.
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Good Point.
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