Get out the mindless vote

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-11-01 10:40am

I went to pick up my friend from her church becuase she needed someone to talk to. Her baby has been having some serious health issues. I was leery because it was the Times Square Church which is a born again Christian Church and I had gone there once before with her a few years ago and was horrified by the mindless zombies there and the preachers speaking about the righteousness of David killing a whole village.

I unfortunately arrived near the closing of the sermon and was treated to the preacher urging his congregation to vote for Bush for the following reeasons:

"He is a fellow born again Christian, saved by coming to Christ and we must show our support."

"The war in Iraq is a just war and it has now allowed missionaries to go into the country and help bring more people to Christ."

The congregation was agreeing like a Nazi rally, swaying in time with the music at first but then shouting out their agreement with the pastor and each of his points. I was HORRIFIED. These are people who essentially have no will, no minds, they allow these pastors to fill their heads with whatever notions he deems fit.

"People talk about the evil of the war but they cannot judge as God judges. The deaths of the people in the war must be balanced with the chance of bringing people to Christ and saving them for all eternity."

And the kicker that made me want to vomit.

"The bible says that we must follow our leaders and have faith that the actions they take are in God's plan. Afterall the president is one of us and speaks to God every day. Would god lead him astray? Would God tell him to lie or go to war without a just reason? We must have faith and support our president."

These are his base. These are his people. The mindless drones that have embraced him like a fucking messiah. The news is uncomfortable covering this aspect of his presidency for fear of offending people. In one news talk show this weekend one guy said "This is a president who thinks he is speaking to God and worst of all he thinks God is talking back."

The commentator immediately cut in: "That's not to say that we're criticizing people's faith or beliefs though."

I wish we were allowed to see more of this aspect of our president and his base. The drones that will vote for him and all his actions are just because God said so.

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-11-01 11:18am

It's stories like these that have me scared shitless about tomorrow.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-11-01 11:25am

Zaia wrote:It's stories like these that have me scared shitless about tomorrow.

What's worse is that no news organizations have ever focussed on this aspect of his base. They are afraid that showing these drones as the midless twits that they are will somehow put religion in a negative light. Not that they have this same issue about portraying Islam in a negative light mind you.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2004-11-01 04:43pm

Many of these people are totally delusional at this point. You've no idea how many calls into C-SPAN's Washington Journal programme —going into the "Bush Supporter" line— have expressed one variation or another on the sentiment that the election of John Kerry would mean the withdrawal of God's "special protection" from America, after which the Terrorists would descend upon us like locusts. They've completely bought into the notion of Bush as the Annointed One or whatever.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-11-01 04:50pm

Stupid people are the biggest special-interest group.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-11-01 05:11pm

There are lots of Christian moderates out there who think that the idea of Bush talking to God on a two-way radio is just delusional and absurd, but they won't be the ones clogging up the phone lines if someone on a talk show says so. If that happens, it's like the Karl Rove snaps his fingers and gets all these whiny Christian assholes to call up and bitch about being persecuted by the liberal media. It's just total insanity.

HyperionX · Post by **HyperionX** » 2004-11-01 05:13pm

Pray?

...GOP strategists might want to have a chat with Tim Moore, an evangelical... He shares Bush's religious convictions but says the president has lost his vote because of tax cuts for the wealthy and the administration's shifting rationales for invading Iraq.

''There's no way I'm going for Bush. That much I know,'' said Moore, 46. He remains undecided between Democratic Sen. John Kerry and a third-party candidate....

...Some, such as Wendy Skroch... blame Bush for failing to fix a ''broken'' healthcare system and for ``selling off the environment to the highest bidder.''

Others are like the Rev. Joe Urcavich... He is undecided, troubled by the bloodshed in the Middle East.

''It's hard for me to say that Christians should be marching against abortion and carrying signs, and then turn around and giving a pep rally for the war in Iraq without even contemplating that hundreds and hundreds of people are being killed on a regular basis over there,'' Urcavich said....

An estimated 80 percent of the evangelical vote went to Bush in 2000. But Bush's senior political strategist, Karl Rove, declared after the 2000 election that the president might have won his race against Democrat Al Gore by a comfortable margin had 4 million more evangelicals gone to the polls rather than sitting out the election....

In appeals to evangelicals, the president's supporters have pointed to Bush's stance against abortion, his appointment of conservative judges and his support for a constitutional ban on gay marriage. And yet a recent poll suggested the prospect of a slight slippage in the president's support.

A poll published last week by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press found that 70 percent of self-described evangelicals or born-again Christians planned to vote for the president, down from 74 percent in the same survey three weeks earlier. That was not only a slight decline, but lower than the 80 percent to 90 percent support that Bush campaign officials have been forecasting....

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/ne ... 335.htm?1c

Thankfully Bush's "born again" Christian rhetoric will scare off more Christians than it will bring back. According to Zogby these "4 million" nonvoting evangelicals simply don't exist, and he's playing to a phantom audieuce. These truely stupid people as mentioned by Stravo will hopefully end up being a rapidly shrink subgroup. Now that will be something enjoyable. One can only wonder what Rove and Bush's face will look like when exit polls show they've lost an f-load of Christian votes in spectacular backfiring.