I think that compromise below is a perfect solution to the dilemma. Don't force religious groups to perform them, but have them available by other means.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... marriage_1
Canadian Court Approves Same-Sex Marriage
1 hour, 12 minutes ago Top Stories - AP
By BETH DUFF-BROWN, Associated Press Writer
TORONTO - Canada's highest court said Thursday the government can redefine marriage to include same-sex couples, but it added that religious officials cannot be forced to perform unions against their beliefs.
The ruling by the court in Ottawa brings to the final stages a long, bitter fight over whether gays and lesbians should be allowed to marry in Canada.
Judges in six provinces and one territory have already overturned the traditional definition, allowing thousands of same-sex weddings.
Canada would join Belgium and the Netherlands in allowing gay marriage if the government acts to make it legal nationwide. To pass in the House of Commons, the legislation needs the approval of about 44 of the 95 Liberal backbench members of Parliament to obtain a 155-vote majority.
One top Liberal predicted the legislation should pass easily after its introduction, likely early next year. It already has the support of the 38-member Liberal cabinet and virtually all the 54 Bloc Quebecois and 19 New Democrat MPs.
Thankfully Canada proves to be more intelligent then the US.
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Thankfully Canada proves to be more intelligent then the US.
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Yes, I read the other thread after. I assumed someone would have updated with a new post, not add to that one.
oh well. The story was barely over an hour old. I forget how quick they are here. lol
oh well. The story was barely over an hour old. I forget how quick they are here. lol
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Which might well be what happens if gay marriage ever gets before the Supreme Court. We only have two activist-conservatives (Thomas and Scalia) and against that are three constructionists (Rehnquist, O'Connor, and Kennedy) and two-wishy washy constructionist-activists (Ginsburg, Stevens , Breyer) and one liberal activist (Souter). All in all a bunch as like to allow gays right as not; they've uphelp abortion rights before in several cases; gay marriage has a reasonable shot.Justforfun000 wrote:I think that compromise below is a perfect solution to the dilemma. Don't force religious groups to perform them, but have them available by other means.
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Well I hope they would never try to go that far. I would be vehemently vocal against forcing Churches to marry homosexuals. I'm one myself, and I would totally defend their right to discriminate in this instance.Which might well be what happens if gay marriage ever gets before the Supreme Court. We only have two activist-conservatives (Thomas and Scalia) and against that are three constructionists (Rehnquist, O'Connor, and Kennedy) and two-wishy washy constructionist-activists (Ginsburg, Stevens , Breyer) and one liberal activist (Souter). All in all a bunch as like to allow gays right as not; they've uphelp abortion rights before in several cases; gay marriage has a reasonable shot.
I don't AGREE with them of course, but they should have the right to keep their "version" of marriage inviolate.
You have to realize that most Christian "moral values" behaviour is not really about "protecting" anyone; it's about their desire to send a continual stream of messages of condemnation towards people whose existence offends them. - Darth Wong alias Mike Wong
"There is nothing wrong with being ignorant. However, there is something very wrong with not choosing to exchange ignorance for knowledge when the opportunity presents itself."
"There is nothing wrong with being ignorant. However, there is something very wrong with not choosing to exchange ignorance for knowledge when the opportunity presents itself."