Police investigate "Cool mom"

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba · Post by **Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba** » 2005-01-25 12:16am

CNN wrote:ARVADA, Colorado (AP) -- A 40-year-old woman held sex and drug parties with teenage boys, telling police she wanted to be a "cool mom," authorities say.

Sylvia Johnson allegedly provided marijuana, methamphetamine and alcohol to eight boys at parties held at her suburban Denver home in 2003 and 2004. According to court papers, she admitted having sex with five of the boys.

One of the boys told his mother, and Johnson was arrested in December and charged with offenses including sexual assault and contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

According to court papers, Johnson told investigators she was not popular in high school and had finally started "feeling like one of the group."

"She described herself as a 'cool mom,'" police said.

Authorities did not say how many children she has or whether any of them were at the parties.

A message left at the number listed for Johnson was not immediately returned.

Cool mom, or drug-dealing child-fucking whore?

salm · Post by **salm** » 2005-01-25 07:20am

how old were the boys and what is methamphetamine?

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2005-01-25 09:00am

salm wrote:how old were the boys and what is methamphetamine?

"Meth" is the streetname. It's an upper that reportedly enhances sexual pleasure... for a time. The longer you take it, the more you need until you reach the point where you can't get it up at all.

Guy N. Cognito · Post by **Guy N. Cognito** » 2005-01-25 11:12am

Wow, young people are using me for drugs, alcohol and sex. I feel cool. Maybe she will be cool in prison too. She might get used for other things. Seriously, how is that people who aren't 'cool' think that doing really stupid things make them cool?

Jalinth · Post by **Jalinth** » 2005-01-25 11:22am

Guy N. Cognito wrote:Wow, young people are using me for drugs, alcohol and sex. I feel cool. Maybe she will be cool in prison too. She might get used for other things. Seriously, how is that people who aren't 'cool' think that doing really stupid things make them cool?

Meth is one of the more dangerous drugs around. Have you seen former labs? The place is basically a toxic waste dump that has to be destroyed and handled by people in hazmat suits - so the distillation of this crap is what you are putting into your kids.

Great mother -

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2005-01-25 11:33am

IIRC amphetamines = speed.

Wow this woman...needs lots and lots of jail time and the helping hands of Miss Butch from C1409.

Guy N. Cognito · Post by **Guy N. Cognito** » 2005-01-25 11:52am

I havne't actually seen any former labs, but I'm aware of the dangerous process required to make the drug. I'm also aware that if I ever find a lab, I'll be happy I don't feel the need to smoke. I hear the labs are also very volatile.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2005-01-25 12:03pm

LadyTevar wrote:
salm wrote:how old were the boys and what is methamphetamine?
"Meth" is the streetname. It's an upper that reportedly enhances sexual pleasure... for a time. The longer you take it, the more you need until you reach the point where you can't get it up at all.

Meth is one of the single most dangerous drugs on the streets. It is a fact that, once you have even *tried* it, you will not be mentally the same ever again. Combine that with the fact that it is home made in dangerous chemical shops that regularly catch fire or explode violently.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-01-25 12:06pm

Breaking the law in order to be "cool" is fucking stupid at any age.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2005-01-25 12:43pm

Nathan F wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:
salm wrote:how old were the boys and what is methamphetamine?
"Meth" is the streetname. It's an upper that reportedly enhances sexual pleasure... for a time. The longer you take it, the more you need until you reach the point where you can't get it up at all.
Meth is one of the single most dangerous drugs on the streets. It is a fact that, once you have even *tried* it, you will not be mentally the same ever again. Combine that with the fact that it is home made in dangerous chemical shops that regularly catch fire or explode violently.

Sorry to derail this from mockery of a drug dispensing mom, but where did you find this "fact" that trying meth once alters you permanently?

The chemical in meth manufacture that explodes is ether, normally.

As to sexual enhancement, from what I've heard, there is zero enhancement, just extraordinary staying power; i.e. an eight hour fuck session without cumming.

Meth is to cocaine what beer is to Everclear. It's wretched, vile, nightmarish shit.

salm · Post by **salm** » 2005-01-25 12:58pm

if these kids were 16 or older i don´t think she did anything wrong besides the meth thing. you should be 18 or older to do be allowed to do this meth stuff.

she´d still be loser though. hanging out with high school kids on your late 40s doesn´t make you cool.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2005-01-25 02:09pm

According to court papers, Johnson told investigators she was not popular in high school and had finally started "feeling like one of the group."

Wanting to feel like part of a group that is less than half her age proves she is psychologically disturbed.

Post by **Zaia** » 2005-01-25 02:26pm

According to court papers, Johnson told investigators she was not popular in high school and had finally started "feeling like one of the group."

This reminds me of a local scandal: a chick who went to high school with me who got arrested five or six years ago for sleeping with her students (she was a substitute teacher). She made comments during her trial about how she'd never been attractive or popular in high school (which is just not true--she had all the guys running after her because she was a babe and a flirt and she slept around and dated the most popular guys at school). During the trial, she said that because she had braces for the first few months of her freshman year, she never felt attractive to anyone, including her husband, and because of that she was just trying to feel loved when she slept with these underage kids. She was found guilty and spent three years in jail and had to see a therapist regularly.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Post by **Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman** » 2005-01-25 04:54pm

Darth Wong wrote:Breaking the law in order to be "cool" is fucking stupid at any age.

Not to mention by her action, she practically taught her kids to break the law. She doesn't fit to be a Mom, IMHO.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2005-01-25 06:39pm

Nathan F wrote:Meth is one of the single most dangerous drugs on the streets. It is a fact that, once you have even *tried* it, you will not be mentally the same ever again. Combine that with the fact that it is home made in dangerous chemical shops that regularly catch fire or explode violently.

My father did not indicate anything like this when I asked him about various drugs. And he is a fucking anesthesiologist. I don't recall prescribed amphetamines creating permanent behavorial and thought changes when they were prescribed (they still are for some applications). Where are you getting this information, the DEA?

salm · Post by **salm** » 2005-01-25 06:52pm

Destructionator XIII wrote: No one should be allowed to do drugs like that. Not only is it bad for the person taking the drug, it can be bad for any poor innocent who happens to stumble across him in that fucked up state.

you can´t keep people from doing drugs anyway. so it´s better to make it legal. that way people at least don´t get laced crap.
for drugs that make people aggressive it could be mandatory that they´re only consumed at home.

and you can tax the drugs and put this money into anti drug campains or rehabilitation. also the money wasted on putting drug consumers and dealers in prison can be used for more reasonable things.

drug addicts should be treated like the sick people they are, not like criminals.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2005-01-25 08:08pm

Damn, I wonder if her last name was Cartman?

Heh, she reminds me of the mum of an ex of mine who tried to be cool when she was drunk at her daughter's parties. Oh man, how embarassing. Hahaha, poor Luke....oh, those were the days.

Darth Wong wrote:Breaking the law in order to be "cool" is fucking stupid at any age.

Oh I dunno. I'd call anyone who broke the Texas sex toy laws for the sake of it cool.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2005-01-25 08:14pm

I have a feeling that the kid who ratted her out is going to be VERY unpopular with the other kids in the foreseeable future. Can you imagine he took away their source of drugs and old lady poon.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2005-01-25 08:35pm

Stravo wrote:I have a feeling that the kid who ratted her out is going to be VERY unpopular with the other kids in the foreseeable future. Can you imagine he took away their source of drugs and old lady poon.

Well worth the ratting, though.

Lord Zentei · Post by **Lord Zentei** » 2005-01-25 08:48pm

salm wrote:
Destructionator XIII wrote: No one should be allowed to do drugs like that. Not only is it bad for the person taking the drug, it can be bad for any poor innocent who happens to stumble across him in that fucked up state.
you can´t keep people from doing drugs anyway. so it´s better to make it legal. that way people at least don´t get laced crap.

You can't stop murder either. Better make it legal. That argument doesn't wash. Besides the reason we legislate against something is to reduce it. No one is expecting perfection for crying out loud.

salm wrote:for drugs that make people aggressive it could be mandatory that they´re only consumed at home.

Ah, so the abuse will only be domestic. I see.

salm wrote:and you can tax the drugs and put this money into anti drug campains or rehabilitation. also the money wasted on putting drug consumers and dealers in prison can be used for more reasonable things.

Many of the worst drugs permanently change a person. Full rehabilitation is not possible. And the addiction and damage always remains, even if a person manages to remain "clean". Besides, you are grouping dealers and abusers together as a single group. Not logical.

salm wrote:drug addicts should be treated like the sick people they are, not like criminals.

If drug abuse is a sickness, how can the legalisation of the sale of drugs possibly be moral?

Jalinth · Post by **Jalinth** » 2005-01-25 08:54pm

All drugs aren't the same. Some are essentially fairly minor - "grass" is one.

Others are intermediate - cocaine, heroin. They don't seem to damage everyone barring very heavy use.

Others have significant long-lasting effects - LSD, meth, etc... that either endanger the user or others after fairly small number of uses.

I'd legislative relative to alcohol. Legalize the minor, regulate the moderate, ban the damaging. Some of the damaging drugs put others at risk (PCP) so should be banned simply for that reason.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2005-01-25 11:17pm

Stravo wrote:I have a feeling that the kid who ratted her out is going to be VERY unpopular with the other kids in the foreseeable future. Can you imagine he took away their source of drugs and old lady poon.

Is this another situation you were involved in as a young and randy Cubano, Strav?

salm · Post by **salm** » 2005-01-26 06:52am

Lord Zentei wrote: You can't stop murder either. Better make it legal. That argument doesn't wash. Besides the reason we legislate against something is to reduce it. No one is expecting perfection for crying out loud.

perfection? i´m not talking about perfection. i´m talking about the ineffectivness of the drug laws.

Ah, so the abuse will only be domestic. I see.

i´ll concede that drugs that make people highly agressive could be classified as deadly weapons or something and outlawed in that way. people who are addicted to them can get them under controled circumstances.

Many of the worst drugs permanently change a person. Full rehabilitation is not possible. And the addiction and damage always remains, even if a person manages to remain "clean".

black and white fallacy. you assume that rehablititation must be "full" in order to be a good thing.

Besides, you are grouping dealers and abusers together as a single group. Not logical.

the´re in the same group. the group of inmates that are a waste of money for no good reason.

If drug abuse is a sickness, how can the legalisation of the sale of drugs possibly be moral?

simple: at a certain age people should be allowed to do whatever they want to as long as it doesn´t hurt others. if that includes self mutilation via drug abuse, so be it.
it´s immoral do deny people the possibility. it´s non of your business what other people do with their health.

tharkûn · Post by **tharkûn** » 2005-01-26 08:15pm

Sorry to derail this from mockery of a drug dispensing mom, but where did you find this "fact" that trying meth once alters you permanently?

Depends on the dosage. AMphetamine does have neurotoxic properties and with high enough concentrations a single dose can be lethal. Slightly lower dosages shoot your blood pressure through the roof and cause strokes. Below that meth plays merry hell with nerve terminals and can cause permanent damage to dopamine and serotonin receptors.

I have no idea if the typical recreational dose is enough to cause nerve damage or small scale strokes, so it could be BS. I mean ANYTHING in high enough dosage will eventually kill you; even oxygen, sugar, or water.

As to sexual enhancement, from what I've heard, there is zero enhancement, just extraordinary staying power; i.e. an eight hour fuck session without cumming.

Clinical studies go all over the place, even in lose dosage prolonged use can cause impotence. You are dicking around with some very intricate parts of the brain and doing so with a sledge hammer, it might not better sex, you might just have a flucuating libido.

Meth is to cocaine what beer is to Everclear.

Meth is for morons. If you want to get high there are a dozen better drugs that don't show measurable degradation of nerve terminals.

for drugs that make people aggressive it could be mandatory that they´re only consumed at home.

Yes and for drugs that cause permanent brain damage, impairing such skills as decision making? Your brain is not static, you can burn parts of out and have the damage show up in clinical procedures.

Argueing about marijuana is one thing, argueing that all drugs should be legal is another.

and you can tax the drugs and put this money into anti drug campains or rehabilitation.

Oh please. Probition does decrease use, the societal costs of having people who are taking hard crap is going to be more than you can ever recoup in taxes. And don't give me crap about taxing the habit into oblivion beyond a certain point excessive taxation just leads back to the black market.

drug addicts should be treated like the sick people they are, not like criminals.

Which has squat to do with legalizing drugs. At best this is a poor arguement for decriminalization of drug use. When a person suffers from chronic lead poisoning the solution is to get rid of the frikking lead, you don't tax them for lead consumption.

Besides what about drugs like GHB and Rohypnol? Making them easier to come by makes it gratiutiously easier to use as date rape drugs.

Like most blanket policy's this one just doesn't cut it.