Shopkeepers shoot two robbers to death

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2005-01-26 11:38am

Ah those silly Georgians with their guns and creationism.

CNN wrote:ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- When two men walked into a popular country store outside Atlanta, announced a holdup and fired a shot, owners Bobby and Gloria Doster never hesitated. The pair pulled out their own pistols and opened fire.

The armed suspect and his partner were killed. The Dosters won't be charged, according to local officials, because they were acting in self-defense.

"I just started shooting," said Gloria Doster, 56. "I was trying to blow his brains out is what I was trying to do."

Shoats Grocery & Package near Crawford, 70 miles east of Atlanta, is a well-known spot where locals stop for breakfast biscuits or lunch. Gloria Doster said the two men who came there Monday had something else in mind.

She was rearranging boxes of soda by the store's front door when a man wearing a wig walked inside, the fake hair draped in front of his face.

"I asked him, 'Can you see to walk?"' Doster said. Then she noticed a second man behind him wearing a mask. He announced a holdup.

One man grabbed Gloria Doster and pushed her toward the register. She said the other kept his gun on her 62-year-old husband, who also goes by the name Shoats.

She said she tried to open the register, but one of the men told her she wasn't moving fast enough and tried to shoot her husband. He missed -- and his gun jammed.

At that point, Bobby Doster pulled out a .380-caliber handgun and shot one of the suspects. Gloria Doster then went for a 9 mm pistol she keeps near the register.

"All hell broke loose," she said. "I was trying to shoot and dial 911 at the same time."

Both suspects took cover behind the store's meat counter as the Dosters opened fire. Gloria Doster said she doesn't know how many bullets were fired, or how many times the suspects were hit.

Police arrived about five minutes after receiving Gloria Doster's call; the suspects died a short time later at a hospital.

The bloodshed, nevertheless, startled Gloria Doster, who has been around guns all her life, and has used them for target shooting. "But I never figured I'd have to use them on anybody," she said.

She said the worst thing that's happened in the seven years the couple has owned the store was an after-hours break-in by teenagers three years ago. The burglars were promptly arrested.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2005-01-26 11:52am

Well, those who live by the sword can expect to die by it, especially when trying to hold up a redneck store in the Deep South.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2005-01-26 12:06pm

Good for them. YAY 2nd amendment!

This is ther eason we have it, so that we can defend ourselves from those who would do us harm. Afterall, execution of a murderer will not bring your son back, but he wouldnt have died in the first place if he shot the motherfucker before he himself got shot/stabbed/strangled.

Fleet Admiral JD · Post by **Fleet Admiral JD** » 2005-01-26 01:04pm

This is good evidence for those who argue for both sides of the gun issue. On the one hand, if guns were illegal, the criminals would have had a harder time getting ahold of them. On the other hand, the people behind the counter managed to get their guns, and defend themselves.

Personally, as long as guns are regulated decently, I am for the private usage, as well as usage for self defense.

Post by **Coyote** » 2005-01-26 01:06pm

[dazed look] Didn't you hear? They should have just done whatever the robbers asked. After all, they're probably just poor, unfortunate victims who were spanked as children... doing whatever robbers ask would never encourage other people to be robbers....[/dazed look]

Hooray shopkeepers! Why don't they get the Medal of Freedom?

Falkenhayn · Post by **Falkenhayn** » 2005-01-26 01:09pm

jegs2 wrote:Well, those who live by the sword can expect to die by it, especially when trying to hold up a redneck store in the Deep South.

I wonder if the direction of the shot has any relevance.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2005-01-26 01:16pm

anyone who is stupid enough to attempt murder with a deadly weapon in the deep south deserves his/her fate. fucking asshats.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-01-26 01:24pm

The idea of a pair of old farts firing multiple shots under duress is a bit scary though; how good could their aim be?

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2005-01-26 01:29pm

Darth Wong wrote:The idea of a pair of old farts firing multiple shots under duress is a bit scary though; how good could their aim be?

Two dead armed robbers, guess you could say it was good enough?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-01-26 01:31pm

Frank Hipper wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:The idea of a pair of old farts firing multiple shots under duress is a bit scary though; how good could their aim be?
Two dead armed robbers, guess you could say it was good enough?

There was no indication of how many shots they had to fire in order to achieve this

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2005-01-26 01:37pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Frank Hipper wrote:Two dead armed robbers, guess you could say it was good enough?
There was no indication of how many shots they had to fire in order to achieve this

Eh, what's a couple reloads between friends?

You've go to admit, two masked, armed robbers cowering behind an ice cream freezer while grandpa and grandma fire wildly into their own store would have it's comedic aspect if it wan't for the fact that they, err, eventually killed them.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2005-01-26 01:38pm

lovin that 2nd amendment.

I dont really get anti gun types. a lot of the cases they provide (kids shooting themselves) would be dismissed if *you taught the kids how to shoot*.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-01-26 01:40pm

Enforcer Talen wrote:lovin that 2nd amendment.

I dont really get anti gun types. a lot of the cases they provide (kids shooting themselves) would be dismissed if *you taught the kids how to shoot*.

So kids aren't responsible enough to drive a car or vote or drink, but they are responsible enough to wield power of life or death over others?

Post by **Beowulf** » 2005-01-26 01:47pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:lovin that 2nd amendment.

I dont really get anti gun types. a lot of the cases they provide (kids shooting themselves) would be dismissed if *you taught the kids how to shoot*.
So kids aren't responsible enough to drive a car or vote or drink, but they are responsible enough to wield power of life or death over others?

One of the most critical things drilled into someone just starting shooting is: Don't point the gun at anything you don't want shot. Also up there is: Always assume the gun's loaded unless you personally check it out yourself.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-01-26 01:51pm

Beowulf wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:So kids aren't responsible enough to drive a car or vote or drink, but they are responsible enough to wield power of life or death over others?
One of the most critical things drilled into someone just starting shooting is: Don't point the gun at anything you don't want shot. Also up there is: Always assume the gun's loaded unless you personally check it out yourself.

So? One of the most critical things drilled into someone just started driving is: "don't drive through red lights", yet people still do it. How have you addressed the argument at all? It's a question of maturity and responsibility; if kids don't have it for drinking, driving, or voting, then why should we assume they have it with guns?

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2005-01-26 01:52pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:lovin that 2nd amendment.

I dont really get anti gun types. a lot of the cases they provide (kids shooting themselves) would be dismissed if *you taught the kids how to shoot*.
So kids aren't responsible enough to drive a car or vote or drink, but they are responsible enough to wield power of life or death over others?

surely youve taught your kids not to touch things like a hot stove, electrical plugs, etc?

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2005-01-26 01:57pm

Enforcer Talen wrote:surely youve taught your kids not to touch things like a hot stove, electrical plugs, etc?

And that's analogus to teaching them to shoot how exactly?

Kids dont need to know how to drive to know not to run out infront of a speeding car...

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2005-01-26 02:00pm

in that, you tell them to *never* *ever* touch this stuff. when their very young, obviously - when they are older, you can teach them how to use it correctly.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-01-26 02:01pm

Enforcer Talen wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:lovin that 2nd amendment.

I dont really get anti gun types. a lot of the cases they provide (kids shooting themselves) would be dismissed if *you taught the kids how to shoot*.
So kids aren't responsible enough to drive a car or vote or drink, but they are responsible enough to wield power of life or death over others?
surely youve taught your kids not to touch things like a hot stove, electrical plugs, etc?

Correct, dumb-ass, which is why I don't let them use the fucking stove or play with electrical wiring. How does that challenge my argument?

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2005-01-26 02:02pm

Enforcer Talen wrote:lovin that 2nd amendment.

I dont really get anti gun types. a lot of the cases they provide (kids shooting themselves) would be dismissed if *you taught the kids how to shoot*.

Actually. You should teach your children to not touch a firearm unless you're there.

CJvR · Post by **CJvR** » 2005-01-26 02:05pm

Fortunately for them they aren't from around here or they could look forward to a few years in prison for that little shootout.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2005-01-26 02:06pm

Fleet Admiral JD wrote:This is good evidence for those who argue for both sides of the gun issue. On the one hand, if guns were illegal, the criminals would have had a harder time getting ahold of them. On the other hand, the people behind the counter managed to get their guns, and defend themselves.

It's illegal for felons to posses firearms, yet, they still get them very easily.

If firearms were made illegal in the US it would make no difference because they are so abundant in the US right now. You'd have to change things at the beginning of this country.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2005-01-26 02:07pm

CJvR wrote:Fortunately for them they aren't from around here or they could look forward to a few years in prison for that little shootout.

Where are you from? I find it strange that it's illegal to defend your life? Or is it the firearms that are illegal?

Pint0 Xtreme · Post by **Pint0 Xtreme** » 2005-01-26 02:10pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:lovin that 2nd amendment.

I dont really get anti gun types. a lot of the cases they provide (kids shooting themselves) would be dismissed if *you taught the kids how to shoot*.
So kids aren't responsible enough to drive a car or vote or drink, but they are responsible enough to wield power of life or death over others?

I was told that a vehicle is potentially more dangerous than a firearm.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2005-01-26 02:12pm

Enforcer Talen wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:So kids aren't responsible enough to drive a car or vote or drink, but they are responsible enough to wield power of life or death over others?
surely youve taught your kids not to touch things like a hot stove, electrical plugs, etc?

Not the same as teaching them cooking or how to be an electrician.

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