James Dobson dictates his will for Canada...

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2005-01-27 11:41am

Focus on the Family fucktard extraordinaire James Dobson has taken it upon himself to tell the people of Canada how flawed their democracy is.

"Your prime minister, Paul Martin, has recently done things to subvert the will of the people," Dobson said.

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dr. what · Post by **dr. what** » 2005-01-27 11:57am

"It is clear here in the United States that the American people do not want same-sex marriage,"

And we Canadians are suppose to care about this hang-up...why?

Dobson concluded the broadcast by calling on Canadians to pray on the issue and to donate money.

Oh. Right. Thanks for answering that.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-01-27 12:02pm

I like the way this dumb-shit appeals to American popular opinion as a barometer of Canadian popular opinion.

Justforfun000 · Post by **Justforfun000** » 2005-01-27 12:09pm

I'd like to Focus on the Family all right. Someone help my focus a giant magnifying glass on that goddamn group. They're worse than the fucking church.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2005-01-27 12:13pm

Darth Wong wrote:I like the way this dumb-shit appeals to American popular opinion as a barometer of Canadian popular opinion.

C'mon Mike, everyone knows Canadians are just Americans with funny accents.

Ligier · Post by **Ligier** » 2005-01-27 12:20pm

Stravo wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:I like the way this dumb-shit appeals to American popular opinion as a barometer of Canadian popular opinion.
C'mon Mike, everyone knows Canadians are just Americans with funny accents.

*eyes bulge, foams at mouth*

Assuming the bill passes through Parliament, and the Supreme Court stamps it's, er, stamp of approval on it, will this have any effect on the Supreme Court of the United States' decision on similar matters? The only reason I'm asking is, if I recall correctly, in some cases, a judge may look to other courts which have had similar cases with similar circumstances to arrive at a decision. (No immediate examples come to mind, it's been a while since I've taken a law class.)

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-01-27 12:22pm

Ligier wrote:
Stravo wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:I like the way this dumb-shit appeals to American popular opinion as a barometer of Canadian popular opinion.
C'mon Mike, everyone knows Canadians are just Americans with funny accents.
*eyes bulge, foams at mouth*

Assuming the bill passes through Parliament, and the Supreme Court stamps it's, er, stamp of approval on it, will this have any effect on the Supreme Court of the United States' decision on similar matters? The only reason I'm asking is, if I recall correctly, in some cases, a judge may look to other courts which have had similar cases with similar circumstances to arrive at a decision. (No immediate examples come to mind, it's been a while since I've taken a law class.)

Some courts have used other countries' rulings as guidance, but the only example I can think of is copyright law, which is internationally enforced due to the Berne Convention anyway so it's not surprising that they would do this. Constitutional matters are hardly as portable, since we do not share the same Constitution.

Justforfun000 · Post by **Justforfun000** » 2005-01-27 01:01pm

Well I certainly hope our government doesn't fuck it up. If they don't get this federal hurdle passed, I can see a million headaches over the backlash. Just think of all the individual provinces and the marriages already performed, and argh.

If that asshole group has one more example to try and claim as their "victory", I'm liable to

Of course even though most political commentators have said the gay marriage issue was NOT the issue that saved George Bush, Focus on the Family arrogantly declares it was, and therefore makes them look like the reason since they were actively campaigning to get people out to the polls and vote Republican. I've never known a more loathesome group in my lifetime. Hypocrisy carries a special disgust to me, and their posing as a moral paragon makes me sick. Their "focus" on the family is to divide it if it doesn't fit THEIR profile of a family.

Gustav32Vasa · Post by **Gustav32Vasa** » 2005-01-27 01:15pm

Stravo wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:I like the way this dumb-shit appeals to American popular opinion as a barometer of Canadian popular opinion.
C'mon Mike, everyone knows Canadians are just Americans with funny accents.

Eh, Canadians are Americans.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-01-27 01:50pm

Gustav32Vasa wrote:Eh, Canadians are Americans.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2005-01-27 01:53pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Gustav32Vasa wrote:Eh, Canadians are Americans.
What the fuck are you talking about?

I think he might mean North Americans in the general sense.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-01-27 01:56pm

Stravo wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
Gustav32Vasa wrote:Eh, Canadians are Americans.
What the fuck are you talking about?
I think he might mean North Americans in the general sense.

I really don't see the point of smart-asses saying "well technically, you're all Americans because you're from the Americas. Ha ha!!!" I think most reasonable people know that the term "Americans" normally refers to people who live in the USA, not Chile.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2005-01-27 01:59pm

Stravo wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
Gustav32Vasa wrote:Eh, Canadians are Americans.
What the fuck are you talking about?
I think he might mean North Americans in the general sense.

I've been told in no uncertain terms that Mexicans are Americans, too. In Spanish.
And, from that particualr point of view, they're absolutely right. The United States is NOT America, it's a country IN America....

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2005-01-27 02:48pm

Of course even though most political commentators have said the gay marriage issue was NOT the issue that saved George Bush, Focus on the Family arrogantly declares it was, and therefore makes them look like the reason since they were actively campaigning to get people out to the polls and vote Republican. I've never known a more loathesome group in my lifetime. Hypocrisy carries a special disgust to me, and their posing as a moral paragon makes me sick. Their "focus" on the family is to divide it if it doesn't fit THEIR profile of a family.

I hope you don't have to live with their thought; my mother gets their newsletter. I remember when they sent out this massive newsletter on why gay people are evil . . .

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2005-01-27 02:50pm

Frank Hipper wrote:
Stravo wrote:
Darth Wong wrote: What the fuck are you talking about?
I think he might mean North Americans in the general sense.
I've been told in no uncertain terms that Mexicans are Americans, too. In Spanish.
And, from that particualr point of view, they're absolutely right. The United States is NOT America, it's a country IN America....

Spanish News always calls the US "Norte Americanos" not Americanos because in their way of thinking everything on the continent is American.

Pint0 Xtreme · Post by **Pint0 Xtreme** » 2005-01-27 03:10pm

Stravo wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:I like the way this dumb-shit appeals to American popular opinion as a barometer of Canadian popular opinion.
C'mon Mike, everyone knows Canadians are just Americans with funny accents.

Or as Homer Simpson puts it... America Jr.!

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2005-01-27 03:43pm

Inside every Canadian there's an American waiting to get out.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-01-27 03:44pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:Inside every Canadian there's an American waiting to get out.

Actually, given the relative weights of Canadians and Americans on average, I'd say the opposite is more likely.

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2005-01-27 03:49pm

And here I was hoping Canuckistan would take this asshole off our hands.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2005-01-27 04:07pm

Darth Wong wrote:Actually, given the relative weights of Canadians and Americans on average, I'd say the opposite is more likely.

Keep your stoic exterior if you'd like, we know deep down inside you all wish to live in a land where you can own uzi's, eat happy meals, and vote Republican.

Justforfun000 · Post by **Justforfun000** » 2005-01-27 04:12pm

Keep your stoic exterior if you'd like, we know deep down inside you all wish to live in a land where you can own uzi's, eat happy meals, and vote Republican.

I DO hope you're kidding.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2005-01-27 04:15pm

Justforfun000 wrote:I DO hope you're kidding.

If you only knew the power of the Dark Side.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2005-01-27 04:16pm

Justforfun000 wrote:
Keep your stoic exterior if you'd like, we know deep down inside you all wish to live in a land where you can own uzi's, eat happy meals, and vote Republican.
I DO hope you're kidding.

I'm sure it's just a side-effect of the G-forces.

Alferd Packer · Post by **Alferd Packer** » 2005-01-27 05:28pm

I would see this as having the exact opposite effect as intended. I think that this would galvanize the Canadian people to set themselves apart from the American people by showing overwhelming support for the legislation. I'm sure there are Canadians who are only lukewarm to the issue of gay marriage but are fabulously pissed off at Bush and anyone aligned with him, so they would wholeheartedly support the opposite of what Bush's policy is.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2005-01-27 05:32pm

Frank Hipper wrote:
Stravo wrote:
Darth Wong wrote: What the fuck are you talking about?
I think he might mean North Americans in the general sense.
I've been told in no uncertain terms that Mexicans are Americans, too. In Spanish.
And, from that particualr point of view, they're absolutely right. The United States is NOT America, it's a country IN America....

I've said that same thing many times. Maybe that just makes me unreasonable.