Karr DNA no match in Ramsey case

theski · Post by **theski** » 2006-08-28 03:54pm

Here we go again..

NBC affiliate KUSA in Denver cites two sources for its report
BOULDER, Colo. - KUSA, a television station in Denver, reported Monday that two sources said the DNA sample taken from John Mark Karr is not a match with the DNA found on JonBenet Ramsey's body when she was slain in 1996.

Earlier Monday, an attorney for Karr demanded that the state turn over all evidence related to DNA in the case.

Among other things, Seth Temin’s court filing asked for a clear description of any biological evidence, including how much is left and how it is being stored.

Eventually in this case, a court will have to analyze the admissibility of DNA evidence and its alleged statistical results,” the public defender wrote. “It appears that more than one laboratory handled or had custody of samples subjected to testing in this case and more than one expert has evaluated the samples and testing results.”

Karr was scheduled to be in court Monday afternoon for a hearing expected to last only a few minutes — long enough for the judge to advise him of his rights and charges against him.

Temin has already challenged the results of any DNA testing involving his client, saying it was illegally obtained. Prosecutors have not confirmed if they performed DNA testing on Karr.

Aggressive defense
Temin and Steve Jacobson, a retired public defender, spent about three hours at the jail Sunday and declined to answer questions as they left. Temin has been aggressive in his short time on the case, winning approval of a gag order and making sure prosecutors and anyone else comes through him before talking with Karr.

He also joined prosecutors in opposing media requests to unseal the arrest affidavit, using capital letters to spell out his contention that releasing the details would violate Karr’s right to a fair trial.

Jacobson is considered a DNA specialist, and DNA could be one of the major issues should Karr go to trial. Jacobson’s name wasn’t listed on Monday’s court filing, but it focused on the rules and procedures of DNA testing, right down to definitions of false positives and “multi-probe genotypes.”

DNA key, experts say
The best-case scenario for prosecutors would be slam-dunk DNA evidence linking Karr to the Ramsey’s former home, where JonBenet’s beaten and strangled body was found by her father on Dec. 26, 1996.

Without it, experts say, it’s much more difficult to build a strong murder case against the 41-year-old Karr, who has said he was there when the girl died but stopped short of an outright confession.

“In this day and age of shows like ’CSI’ jurors not only want forensic evidence before they will convict a person, they demand it,” said Robert Hirschhorn, a jury consultant based in Dallas.

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Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2006-08-28 03:59pm

So he was a nutcase wanting attention.

Not that I didn't expect that.

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2006-08-28 04:12pm

If the DNA doesn't match that pretty much clinches it. I mean they can come up with circumstantial 'evidence' like they do in some cases, but really if they cant prove he was there beyond his own delusional rantings that he was, no dice.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2006-08-28 04:16pm

Good, maybe we won't see this damn thing all over the MSM anymore.

Seriously, I hope they find the killer.

Infidel7 · Post by **Infidel7** » 2006-08-28 04:21pm

Saw that coming from a mile away. Another sociopath vying to get his name on the front of papers.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2006-08-28 04:39pm

That was my thought from the beginning. This guy struck me as an attention seeking loonie with an obsession, not a murderer.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-08-28 04:43pm

Does that mean we won't be able to hear about his dietary choices and bathroom breaks on FOXNews and CNN any more?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2006-08-28 04:49pm

Shoot him. I despise attention whores like this.

Azazal · Post by **Azazal** » 2006-08-28 04:52pm

Darth Wong wrote:Does that mean we won't be able to hear about his dietary choices and bathroom breaks on FOXNews and CNN any more?

Nope, you'll have to wait for the book and movie of the week that will be out shortly

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2006-08-28 04:53pm

MKSheppard wrote:Shoot him. I despise attention whores like this.

Shoot the MSM as well.

Except for Anderson Cooper, he's hot.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-08-28 04:56pm

He's still a kiddie porn sicko who always made a point of trying to find jobs that would put him in close proximity to children. If it were up to me, I'd have him brutalized for that even if the whole JonBenet thing had never happened.

FSTargetDrone · Post by **FSTargetDrone** » 2006-08-28 04:58pm

Darth Wong wrote:Does that mean we won't be able to hear about his dietary choices and bathroom breaks on FOXNews and CNN any more?

Nor, I hope, will we have to see anymore cringe-worthy home videos of Big Head John from the 80s.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2006-08-28 05:00pm

Darth Wong wrote:Does that mean we won't be able to hear about his dietary choices and bathroom breaks on FOXNews and CNN any more?

I loved how Countdown spoofed that. Talk about low journalistic standards.

Post by **weemadando** » 2006-08-28 05:01pm

Well, the dude was arrested in Thailand for something... Maybe he just came up with this BS to get extradited and not have to face Thai gaol time.

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » 2006-08-28 05:03pm

weemadando wrote:Well, the dude was arrested in Thailand for something... Maybe he just came up with this BS to get extradited and not have to face Thai gaol time.

It was for kiddy-porn charges in California.

Post by **weemadando** » 2006-08-28 05:19pm

Flagg wrote:
weemadando wrote:Well, the dude was arrested in Thailand for something... Maybe he just came up with this BS to get extradited and not have to face Thai gaol time.
It was for kiddy-porn charges in California.

Ah... Well, then it was just attention-whoring.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2006-08-28 05:37pm

And prosecutors just dropped the charges against him.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2006-08-28 05:42pm

Wasn't the guy in a Thai prison? He probably just wanted out...

Post by **weemadando** » 2006-08-28 05:47pm

Superman wrote:Wasn't the guy in a Thai prison? He probably just wanted out...

Deja vu!

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2006-08-28 05:48pm

I guess now Nancy Grace doesn't have to be so outraged over the fact that he was allowed to drink champagne and change his clothes.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2006-08-28 06:03pm

Make him pay for the plane ride home, and if he's wanted on charges in Thailand, send him back there.

If he's not, when he goes to jail, put him in with the general population and let them know who he is, and what he'd claimed to do

Just make sure they don't kill him. That's too quick

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2006-08-28 06:41pm

Now he can go back to Thailand and have the sex-change operation he's always wanted...

...and you know, still be generally creepy about little girls.

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » 2006-08-28 08:54pm

Superman wrote:Wasn't the guy in a Thai prison? He probably just wanted out...

I don't know if he was ever in a prison, but he was arrested by Thai officials by request of either officials in California or Colorado so he couldn't up and disappear before US officials could get ahold of him and take him back here. I don't believe he was in any danger of being incarcerated by the Thais.

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » 2006-08-28 08:56pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Now he can go back to Thailand and have the sex-change operation he's always wanted...

...and you know, still be generally creepy about little girls.

No, I think California is going to want him back to face the misdemeanor kiddy-porn charges he was facing when he fled to Thailand.

theski · Post by **theski** » 2006-08-29 07:00am

Flagg wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Now he can go back to Thailand and have the sex-change operation he's always wanted...

...and you know, still be generally creepy about little girls.
No, I think California is going to want him back to face the misdemeanor kiddy-porn charges he was facing when he fled to Thailand.

That is where he is headed next... Going back to Cali.