The Ankh-Morpork Watch in NWN

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-04-06 04:05pm

I've been converting a few of the Watch to NeverWinter Nights, so far I think with decent results. Anyone who knows a bit of D&D and/or GURPS Discworld is welcome to give me their two cents and stuff.

I read somewhere about converting GURPS scores to D&D ability scores, and it pretty much says "leave them as they are" so ST 14 = Str 14. Don't know if I should fudge this somehow, but well.

So far this is more or less what I've done:

Commander Vimes: level 9 fighter, stats (Str,Dex,Con,Int,Wis,Cha) = 11,12,12,14,14,10
Captain Carrot: level 7 fighter, stats = 19,16,16,13,10,14 (from charisma +4 advantage, maybe it's too low).
Sergeant Detritus: half-orc, level 4 barbarian, 1 fighter, stats = 23,12,13,9,10,10
Sergeant Colon: level 3 fighter, stats = 8,10,9,11,11,10
Corporal Nobbs: level 2 rogue, 1 fighter, stats = 8,12,8,10,10,10 (human but uses halfling model)
Constable Angua: race="shapechanger" (but looks human), level 3(should be 5?) fighter, stats = 11,13,13,13,10,10. I suppose shapechanging should be handled by script/plot.

I made some standard equipment for them, which includes a light xbow, a shortsword, and a AC8 "breastplate", kinda gold-colored (bronze?). exceptions are carrot (who has a vorpal? +5 longsword) and no bow, and has a slightly different looking armor (added the "protective" -immunity to knockdown?- and it's really shiny, cha+1, maybe should add a penalty to stealth), vimes who has a +1 xbow, shortsword and armor, colon has a shortbow instead of xbow, nobby has a ugly rusted armor (cha-1), a +1 xbow (hogswatch gift) and a club instead of sword (dunno why), and detritus has a club and a +5 mighty heavy crossbow (usable only by half-orcs, supposed to be an ex-"siege bow"), also changed the armor look a bit (also only usable by half-orcs)

These aren't PCs or henchmen, I just tried to make them faithful to the books even if the player is never going to see their "nonlootable" stuff, haha - maybe if they watch them fight some rabble of vampires or a dragon, I don't know.

I'll post a screenshot momentarily.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-04-06 04:11pm

Here's what they look that

(no more geocities trick

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http://www.geocities.com/bengal_tigreus ... /watch.htm

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-04-06 04:24pm

Shouldn't Detritus's bow be usable only by half-trolls, not half-orcs? Orcs aren't much stronger than humans...

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-04-06 04:31pm

D&D troll is a completely different thing than the DW troll. Plus there's no Player "troll" race, only a troll monster model that looks like some kind of big bony gnome made of moss. I'm just assuming that D&D half-orc = DW troll and fudging the values.

PrinceofLowLight · Post by **PrinceofLowLight** » 2004-04-06 05:13pm

What about the hand crossbows? I'm pretty sure every member has one, and I'm sure there are hand crossbows in that Underdark expansion.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-04-06 05:19pm

Don't own the Underdark expansion. In fact I've reinstalled NWN without SOU to make a mod that runs for most people. Also, I've only read as far as Feet of Clay (and I'm only about halfway) so I dunno about any hand xbows...

So far the only custom content I've used is some portraits I found in a fan site (pretty good too), maybe I'll add "custom races" if that's feasible, eventually (to make a better "troll" template from the half-orc race).

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-05-03 04:44am

Small update: I started messing around with some 3D studio import/export scripts, and this is what I got

Detritus' Bow Prototype:
http://www.geocities.com/bengal_tigreus/antics/bow/

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-05-03 10:27am

Shouldn't Vimes be a tad stronger then that?

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2004-05-03 11:33am

Straha wrote:Shouldn't Vimes be a tad stronger then that?

Sure, he's able to lift three hundred pound Orangutans with one hand, but only when he's pissed off enough not to notice.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-05-03 03:26pm

Straha wrote:Shouldn't Vimes be a tad stronger then that?

I'm using the GURPS attribute values... I guess he's never demonstrated any kind of special strength (except in a comical situation, like Impact noted) nor does he show big muscles or anything, he's actually a thin man.

Shortie · Post by **Shortie** » 2004-05-03 05:17pm

Slartibartfast wrote:
Straha wrote:Shouldn't Vimes be a tad stronger then that?
I'm using the GURPS attribute values... I guess he's never demonstrated any kind of special strength (except in a comical situation, like Impact noted) nor does he show big muscles or anything, he's actually a thin man.

He is quite good in unarmed combat though. And at setting traps, though I don't know if that'd come in here.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-05-03 05:36pm

To tell the truth, I should just use default Fighter attributes, it's not like anyone's actually going to see his stats

he's a NPC after all...

Besides, you're right, since there's no such thing as "fighting skill" in D&D, it all comes down to strength bonus and level. I mean, sure you have "focus" and "specialization" but that's peanuts compared to the +20 you end up adding your level to-hit and your str.

But anyway, what do you think about the new bow?

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-05-04 02:20am

The new bow looks like a... piano.

It's basically supposed to be a ballista that was converted for hand use. Think a human ballista from Warcraft II. Chop off the wheels and most of the frame.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-05-04 03:39pm

This is the in-game version of a ballista. It looks more like the Kidby drawings than the Warcraft ballista.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-05-05 12:44am

Ok, I see what you're getting at.

(It would actually be kind of funny in-game, having what looks like an upright piano aimed at you...)

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-05-05 03:44pm

It could do with some changes tho, maybe make the end less rectangular, so that it doesn't clip with the head, or sumthing. I'm thinking adding a long handle so that it's fired from the shoulder. This is more like an experiment to see if it can look right.

And for now I've used it all as a crossbow "body", and crossbows are made up from 3 parts (the body, the bow and some knob) so it could be more customizable

For now I'm defining it as "Troll only" (I already changed the race name) and mighty +10 or so. I'm thinking of adding "race" limitations to most armors.