Sorry, if you play a single samey game over and over, that's a personal problem. The suggestion that that is 'perfection' or a goal for all games regardless of approach, style or goal to aspire to is utter horseshit. Please note - Halo wasn't thrilling the first time: it was boring, easy, take-me-by-the-hand consequence-free nonsense. The idea of doing it over and over again appalls me. MAYBE PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT TASTES AND SAYING ALL GAMES SHOULD FOLLOW '15S OF FUN LOL' IS STUPID.
I am not going to rant about Halo 1s greatness in a KoToR thread. Each to whatever liquid floats their boat. If you are still curious go read [url=
http://freespace.virgin.net/bad.cyborg/index.html]this page on the interesting world of Halo 1 campaign].
More importantly where do you get the idea I was advocating all games need to be like Halo. The point was all games are repetitive and replayability depends on making that repetitiveness fun. Unless you just skimmed over the thread I also mentioned 2 other games besides Halo when explaining this.
Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:47 am Post subject: Reply with quote
Repeating the same fifteen seconds of fun over and over eh. Well you can pretty much repeat the same fifteen seconds of fun over and over in RPG's too. It's called grinding.
Why is grinding so boring ? Think about it for a moment. It has something to do with not making the repetitiveness fun.
Grinding not your style? Then maybe you should realize that your definition of what is fun or not limits you to extremely short attention span shallow games and comparing a Halo to a KOTOR and saying KOTOR is broken because it isn't a FPS is pretty fucking lame. Normally I don't agree with Stark's rants but this one he's right on. I wonder how you would last in tactical wargames like XCOM or Panzer General: would you consider them bad games because they don't repeat the same 15 seconds over and over?
Ok I made a mistake phrasing that. KOTOR is not broken because it is not a FPS. I was trying to say JK had good gameplay but very bad writers wrote the plot while KOTOR had a great story but gameplay was terrible. Regarding turn based I played a few like Master of Orion 1,2. Civ games, Alpha Centauri etc and love those. I haven't played the “tactical” strategy ones like Syndicate. But I did get X-Com recently. Hopefully I will be able to find Jagged Allegience, X-Com 2 & 3 and other greats of this genre as well.
I have to tell you something everything I wrote above is a lie.