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http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadi ... v2KY3JxlVQ
MagicJack's next act: Making cellphone fees disappear for home users

By Peter Svensson (CP) – 1 hour ago

LAS VEGAS — The company behind the magicJack, the cheap Internet phone gadget that's been heavily promoted on TV, has made a new version of the device that allows free calls from cellphones in the home, in a fashion that's sure to draw protest from cellular carriers.

The new magicJack uses, without permission, radio frequencies for which cellular carriers have paid billions of dollars for exclusive licenses.

YMax Corp., which is based in Palm Beach, Fla., said this week at the International Consumers Electronics Show that it plans to start selling the device in about four months for US$40, the same price as the original magicJack. As before, it will provide free calls to the U.S. and Canada for one year. The original magicJack is available in Canada.

The new device is, in essence, a very small cellular tower for the home.

The size of a deck of cards, it plugs into a PC, which needs a broadband Internet connection. The device then detects when a compatible cellphone comes within 2.4 metres and places a call to it. The user enters a short code on the phone. The phone is then linked to the magicJack and, as long as it's within range (YMax said it will cover a 280-square-metre home) magicJack routes the call itself, over the Internet, rather than going through the carrier's cellular tower. No minutes are subtracted from the user's account with the carrier. Any extra fees for international calls are subtracted from the user's account with magicJack, not the carrier.

According to YMax CEO Dan Borislow, the device will connect to any phone that uses the GSM standard, which in the U.S. includes phones from AT&T Inc. and T-Mobile USA. At a demonstration at CES, a visitor's phone with a T-Mobile account successfully placed and received calls through the magicJack. Most phones from Verizon Wireless and Sprint Nextel Corp. won't connect to the device.

Borislow said the device is legal because wireless spectrum licences don't extend into the home.

AT&T Inc., T-Mobile USA and the U.S. Federal Communications Commission didn't immediately respond to requests for comment.

Borislow said YMax has sold five million magicJacks for landline phones in the last two years, and that roughly three million are in active use. That would give YMax a bigger customer base than Internet phone pioneer Vonage Holdings Corp., which has been selling service for $25 per month for the better part of a decade. Privately held YMax had revenue of $110 million last year, it says.

U.S. carriers have been selling and experimenting with devices that act similarly to the wireless magicJack. They're called "femtocells." Like the magicJack, they use the carrier's licensed spectrum to connect to a phone, then route the calls over a home broadband connection. They improve coverage inside the home and offload capacity from the carrier's towers.

But femtocells are complex products, because they're designed to mesh with the carrier's external network. They cost the carriers more than $200, though some sell them cheaper, recouping the cost through added service fees. YMax's magicJack is a much smaller, simpler design.

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Does anyone have one, and how well does it work? And what's the likelihood that they'll be sued into non-existence in the near future?
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MagicJack installs highly intrusive software into one's computer. I would be wary.

As for their stance on spectrum, they are wrong. The FCC can likely nail them on this.
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I use wifi for same. When in my home my E63 taps into my router and I can make unlimited skype calls without any data charge. The problem is elsewhere. I can only reach PC or other skype users. Making calls to landlines or cellphone numbers still takes money.
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My ISP provides me with a voip line, so anywhere my phone can reach my home network I can make calls using SIP for basically nothing. It's not quite 'lol freecalls everywhere', though.
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We've had a magic jack for several years now, and use it almost exclusively for outgoing calls from home. It doesn't care what's on the other end, you can call other magicjack users, landlines, cellphones.... You do need some minimal knowledge of how to adjust some settings on your computer, but once set up (in our experience) it is very reliable and clear.

When you don't want to use it, you simply disconnect the device from your USB port.

We have not had any problems with the software, or with security breaches on our system since we've been using it.

We do have to make sure no other software is running while using it, as that can eat up sufficient bandwidth to cause drop outs - but then we are running it on a 12 year old computer.
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My understanding is that, below a certain wattage (which will provide ~100 ft distance) no FCC licensing or approval is necessary.
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