Legal question on downloading music-internet radio/youtube

[lance]

From my understanding, I can perfectly legally copy music from the normal radio, does this apply to internet radio? Or sites like youtube?

[Imperial528]

Wouldn't that fall under the "analog hole", where while it is technically illegal for you to record something copyrighted from your radio or computer speaker, there is no way to actually enforce realistic copyright protection at that level?

[Sarevok]

If someone wants to sue you for "intellectual property violations" they can. Money makes right in the courts. For particularly astounding example observe Scientologists silencing critics by sueing websites that quote them or their text. As long you as posses a copy of something or something even remotely looks like something you are a target.

No such thing as assured legal protection, just don't get noticed if in doubt.

[Skgoa]

Here in Germany it's ok to make copies for personal use (including handing them over to close friends and family!), but you can't give them to the general public. In our student pub, we can't even have the bar open to the evening crowd while playing console games on our giant projector in a different room. Because random (i.e. not explicitly invited) people coming into the venue means it's public.

[Sarevok]

Here in Germany it's ok to make copies for personal use (including handing them over to close friends and family!), but you can't give them to the general public. In our student pub, we can't even have the bar open to the evening crowd while playing console games on our giant projector in a different room. Because random (i.e. not explicitly invited) people coming into the venue means it's public.

I thought interactive media such as games are not covered under rules restricting exhibition ? If it is does not it put things like streaming online matches or Lets Play videos in a legal grey area ?

[Serafina]

If you download a video of Youtube, you aren't doing anything different from accessing it. Accessing copyrighted content on Youtube isn't illegal, just uploading content to which you have no copyright is prohibited.

So no, you shouldn't get into any trouble. Then again, with the craziness of the content-mafia, who knows.

[Sarevok]

So no, you shouldn't get into any trouble. Then again, with the craziness of the content-mafia, who knows.

The fact that many people put obviously protected content like well known music over their otherwise benign videos make it even harder to remain safe from the content mafia. Youtube does sometime delete the audio from such videos but there are way too many. So if I have a tutorial video with a song playing in the background I am potentially pirating it by saving the video.

[Xon]

If you download a video of Youtube, you aren't doing anything different from accessing it. Accessing copyrighted content on Youtube isn't illegal, just uploading content to which you have no copyright is prohibited.

B.Content is provided to you AS IS. You may access Content for your information and personal use solely as intended through the provided functionality of the Service and as permitted under these Terms of Service. You shall not download any Content unless you see a “download” or similar link displayed by YouTube on the Service for that Content. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, or otherwise exploit any Content for any other purposes without the prior written consent of YouTube or the respective licensors of the Content. YouTube and its licensors reserve all rights not expressly granted in and to the Service and the Content.

Bolding mine. I'll leave the legal fuckery with violating passively accepted terms of service and how it means you can have the book front at you for un-authorized computer usage for another thread.

So no, you shouldn't get into any trouble. Then again, with the craziness of the content-mafia, who knows.

Simple answer for any copyright question which is almost alwasy correct; no you don't have permision todo it. In general you need explicit authorization to ensure you are not violating copyright, with a list of exceptions which is utter bizarre and inconsistant with no rhyme or reason to the exceptions and the exceptions to the exceptions.

The fact that many people put obviously protected content like well known music over their otherwise benign videos make it even harder to remain safe from the content mafia. Youtube does sometime delete the audio from such videos but there are way too many. So if I have a tutorial video with a song playing in the background I am potentially pirating it by saving the video.

At least you are not that poor sap who may be liable for copyright violation if the IP owner gets pissed and sues over an unauthorized usage of the song.