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Re: So, Norton just expired.

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Edi wrote: Avira [is a] fairly good choice[...]
I disagree. I had been using that anti-virus for years (XP, XP sp3 and Win7 since rc1) and still had to reformat severall times due to mal- and adware. During that time, it pestered me about totally benign things on a regular basis, used up system ressouces like it was going out of style and showed a huge ass pop-up every time it updated, i.e. every day. I switched to MSE and have not had any of those problems. Well, Microsoft doesn't wan't me to use cracks or keygens either but I only have to allow the program once and MSE leaves it well enough alone.

And even though this is slightly OT, I would also recommend NOT installing a "personal firewall" on a Windows 7 machine. They do not protect you, Windows has a supperior one built-in and they are a huge pain in the ass if you don't know what you are doing. Furthermore, if you are connecting to the internet through a router with NAT - virtually every broadband and business internet connection is - you are behind a firewall by design, anyways.
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Avira is a bit of a system resource hog now, but it didn't start out that way. When I had it, I never once had an infection from anything and it only reacted to innocuous stuff that actually contained worm type code stuff.

Of course, I've been routinely running Spybot S&D and Spywareblaster as that passive backup to inoculate the browsers above and beyond what my AV does, but I've not been very diligent about keeping them updated anymore.

The popup Avira throws up is the price you pay for it being free.

I've had more trouble with Avast just deciding to do things on its own to files I actually needed and then having to go through the recovery process two or three times since the program just wouldn't fucking take a hint and respect the exceptions I set.

As far as ditching Avira goes, the last straw for me was when they updated it so that it constantly bothered me about installing the ask.com toolbar, which should be classified as fucking malware in and of itself. I will not even consider installing that program personally anymore and will always recommend MSE and Avast before it, but it still beats the pants off things like AVG, Norman or Norton (all of which are nothing but various grades of evil)
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Speaking as a long-time professional tech, what the fuck is Norman? Is that an exclusively European thing or something?
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You mean Norton? Is that sarcasm?
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Edi wrote:As far as ditching Avira goes, the last straw for me was when they updated it so that it constantly bothered me about installing the ask.com toolbar, which should be classified as fucking malware in and of itself. I will not even consider installing that program personally anymore and will always recommend MSE and Avast before it, but it still beats the pants off things like AVG, Norman or Norton (all of which are nothing but various grades of evil)
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Something tells me it's a Scandinavian thing. ;)
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White Haven wrote:Speaking as a long-time professional tech, what the fuck is Norman? Is that an exclusively European thing or something?
If you need to ask the question, the correct answer is that you really, truly don't want to know. Especially if something goes wrong with it.

That said, if you're feeling brave, their home page.

They do have a few nifty things, chief of which is the malware cleaner tool, the couple of rootkit removers and the uninstall tool. Which will absolutely, positively kill any Norman installation dead and then cleanse the corpse with fire. Best way to remove that AV suite from the way of something better.
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Rogue 9

Make sure you download and run the Norton Removal Tool.
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More properly, first uninstall the program normally, then run the removal tool. That will nuke everything in sight. I've seen some instances of Norton that were not the least bit phased by the removal tool, it had absolutely zero effect. Those needed the standard uninstall, then the removal tool, then manual nuking of anything else that was left followed by Ccleaner's registry tool.

Was the only way to kill the bastards dead. Norton 360, IIRC. One of those just recently.
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