What's An Ouya?

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Re: What's An Ouya?

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someone_else wrote:No, I meant that they didn't plan to waste tons of money in making ultra-safe consoles since that approach usually fails spectacularly unless they dump really significant amounts of money and brains into it, so they do some token anti-piracy just to keep appearances but without believing a lot in it.
So the proprietary consoles may be left relatively easy to pirate due to cost-benefit assessment.
Putting aside the reality you area apparently unaware of for the moment, we're right back to it being an unattractive platform for major investment because it will be full of piracy. The manufacturers are arguably supporting and encouraging this at the same time as they expect people to develop games specifically for the platform and sell them in a store from which they will draw most of their profit.

If your only response to this is 'proprietary consoles are easy to pirate', that's pretty funny because you've totally missed the point.
They hope it is less counteproductive than the nerd support that they get by doing so.
In Android and iOS most games aren't really worth pirating imho (while it's still technically doable and lots do so) due to their far lower price and average success (apart from Angry Birds anyway). Playstation, Xbox and PC stuff has makes much more sense to pirate.
Right, and PC is an easy platform for piracy, and encouraging piracy and 'hacking' (a pathetic marketing spin on 'configure', lol) on a new platform is stupid because it reduces your legitimate market at the same time as it reduces your paying customers. When they go to EA to make a big-name game on their platform, are they going to say 'we sold 100,000 units, of which we estimate 1,000 are legitimately buying software from our store'?

Maybe you should read about PSP rooting and piracy, and how it affected the success of the platform.
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Re: What's An Ouya?

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The risk of getting busted clearly hasn't stopped companies like Zynga from copying games like Tiny Tower wholesale. Or Capcom from copying Splosion Man. The Apple store has its fair share of ripoffs, but ouya sounds like a plagiarist's paradise.
Why only Ouya is a plagiarist paradise? That's an issue with the laws, not with the hardware. You said there are ripoffs on Apple store and Android store too. And for PC or consoles anyone can do anything.

Anyone can go ahead and ripoff anything as long as the copyright holder does not give a fuck or is too weak to defend itself in court.
Which clearly favours the BIG companies and fucks sideways small ones and common people.
we're right back to it being an unattractive platform for major investment because it will be full of piracy.
Because it's Open? This argument is shit. Can you please explain how piracy on it is possibly going to be any worse than for other products?
You can already download Apple (<-it's an article, not warez) and Android apps without paying (just google for the latter), you can torrent pirated PC and console games within months of their release (sometimese even before the release date).

I mean is taboo to know about this in the software dev rooms? Do they all play blind to the facts?

Any game on any platform makes money depending on the honestness (or inpetitude) of its fanbase, period.
Saying Open and Hackable = PiRaCy is bullshit.

Also the average developers of Android games aren't huge piracy-phobic companies like EA, they are much closer to users and know how it works.
Maybe you should read about PSP rooting and piracy, and how it affected the success of the platform.
As for the success... they still sell the latest iteration of PSP (PS Vita) and has plenty of good games.
There is no working crack yet (they closed a few exploits) for it but the PS Vita isn't going as well as they hoped, so I'd say they blame piracy because it's a convenient scapegoat. Maybe it's even funier, piracy boosted the sales of the PSP.
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Re: What's An Ouya?

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someone_else wrote:
The risk of getting busted clearly hasn't stopped companies like Zynga from copying games like Tiny Tower wholesale. Or Capcom from copying Splosion Man. The Apple store has its fair share of ripoffs, but ouya sounds like a plagiarist's paradise.
Why only Ouya is a plagiarist paradise? That's an issue with the laws, not with the hardware. You said there are ripoffs on Apple store and Android store too. And for PC or consoles anyone can do anything.

Anyone can go ahead and ripoff anything as long as the copyright holder does not give a fuck or is too weak to defend itself in court.
Which clearly favours the BIG companies and fucks sideways small ones and common people.
Consoles have a much stricter review process than Apple or the general internet, along with actual guidelines and standards. Even Apple has a review process to make sure that nobody uploads malware or blatant viruses to their marketplace. What's the review process for the Ouya? "Don't do jack diddly until someone's notices and reports it?"
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Re: What's An Ouya?

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General Zod wrote:
someone_else wrote:
The risk of getting busted clearly hasn't stopped companies like Zynga from copying games like Tiny Tower wholesale. Or Capcom from copying Splosion Man. The Apple store has its fair share of ripoffs, but ouya sounds like a plagiarist's paradise.
Why only Ouya is a plagiarist paradise? That's an issue with the laws, not with the hardware. You said there are ripoffs on Apple store and Android store too. And for PC or consoles anyone can do anything.

Anyone can go ahead and ripoff anything as long as the copyright holder does not give a fuck or is too weak to defend itself in court.
Which clearly favours the BIG companies and fucks sideways small ones and common people.
Consoles have a much stricter review process than Apple or the general internet, along with actual guidelines and standards. Even Apple has a review process to make sure that nobody uploads malware or blatant viruses to their marketplace. What's the review process for the Ouya? "Don't do jack diddly until someone's notices and reports it?"
Nonononononononononononono, They're going to have dozens (maybe hundreds) of paid, skilled reviewers, and are going to never have any problems, didn't you read the rest of the thread

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