WarZ Released, Is Blatantly Unfinished And A Bit Crap

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Mr Bean wrote:So how long till they get pulled into court someplace like Road Island which has return laws that back consumers not businesses. Assuming they refuse to refund the money or get a fraud or scam cause brought against them.
Does that ever happen with video games ?
ryacko wrote:Didn't they change their terms of service, to require arbitration first?

If you look at it anyway, technically you are leasing the game from them. You don't own it.
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bilateralrope wrote:
Does that ever happen with video games ?
Most video games are not advertised with features it does not contain and most video games are not pulled by the sellers who then admit fault. That's really rare, and they way The WarZ spokesman has been acting is also unique. IE like a massive dick in public that won't sound good when read back as a transcript in court.

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Mr Bean wrote:
bilateralrope wrote:
Does that ever happen with video games ?
Most video games are not advertised with features it does not contain and most video games are not pulled by the sellers who then admit fault. That's really rare, and they way The WarZ spokesman has been acting is also unique. IE like a massive dick in public that won't sound good when read back as a transcript in court.
Pretty sure for foreign companies, if they violate our laws and refuse to show up in court, they only lose the ability to sell their products in the US.

Which seems pretty likely.
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Mr Bean wrote:
bilateralrope wrote:
Does that ever happen with video games ?
Most video games are not advertised with features it does not contain and most video games are not pulled by the sellers who then admit fault. That's really rare, and they way The WarZ spokesman has been acting is also unique. IE like a massive dick in public that won't sound good when read back as a transcript in court.
I'm not questioning how bad it will be for the WarZ team if this gets into court. I'm just doubting that anyone with standing will care enough to bring it into court.
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The only way they end up in court (or a US proxy does) is if the leaks/rumours about it being a planned scam of pull in money they never intended to let the players use are confirmed.
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bilateralrope wrote: I'm not questioning how bad it will be for the WarZ team if this gets into court. I'm just doubting that anyone with standing will care enough to bring it into court.
Class action, there's money to possibly be made here and a class action suit where they can get a few thousand people to sign up means a few million for the lawyers involved and 2.4$ per person affected.

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Steams TOS waives your right to class action suits IIRC
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That sort of thing is almost certainly illegal and so it doesn't really matter what the EULA or TOS say you've waived.
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fordlltwm wrote:Steams TOS waives your right to class action suits IIRC
The people who bought it through Steam can get their refunds from Valve. So I don't see how Steam's TOS matters when Valve is making Steam customers whole.
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fordlltwm wrote:Steams TOS waives your right to class action suits IIRC
Only between Valve and its customers. The agreement doesn't say diddly about third parties that might happen to use Steam, as far as I can tell.
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